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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 7:49 am
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santacruzom : 9/15/2024 12:33 pm : link
In comment 16609360 Mbavaro said:
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Bizarre to you perhaps. I want this entire operation-Schoen, Dabs, Jones-gone. The uglier it gets, the more likely it happens.



I prefer to see improvement

You’re rooting for the team to regress
To each his own… I guess


The difference is one person wants something that is within the realm of possibility, while you want something that does not.
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santacruzom : 9/15/2024 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16609442 santacruzom said:
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Bizarre to you perhaps. I want this entire operation-Schoen, Dabs, Jones-gone. The uglier it gets, the more likely it happens.



I prefer to see improvement

You’re rooting for the team to regress
To each his own… I guess



The difference is one person wants something that is within the realm of possibility, while you want something that does not.


Er, *is* not.
Hopefully a better effort  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/15/2024 12:34 pm : link
today. Want to see a team that looks better prepared with a lot more fight in them to start. More emphasis on the run game on O and then on D Bowens has to have a plan as Daniels will look to run.
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Mbavaro : 9/15/2024 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16609442 santacruzom said:
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Bizarre to you perhaps. I want this entire operation-Schoen, Dabs, Jones-gone. The uglier it gets, the more likely it happens.



I prefer to see improvement

You’re rooting for the team to regress
To each his own… I guess



The difference is one person wants something that is within the realm of possibility, while you want something that does not.


Seeing improvement in the overall team is beyond the realm of possibilities?

WTF?

RE: …  
JT039 : 9/15/2024 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16609437 christian said:
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I'm pretty comfortable with my wishes.

I want the Giants to lose enough that they get rid of Jones, and win enough that they keep Daboll.

If some how Schoen could get a job in the league office and jam, that would be ideal.


We have to come to a realization that Daboll may be as big of a problem as Jones. A Bad QB like Jones can set back a franchise - but so can a coach.

He’s in the running as the worst coach in the league.
RE: If this is true...  
56goat : 9/15/2024 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16609311 Eric from BBI said:
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they deserve their fate... https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1835338529049661551 - ( New Window )


I think this is the company line, but I can't fathom they actually believe it.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 12:39 pm : link
I guess it was hasty and wrong for me to say I hope WFT wins. Once kickoff, I’ll inevitably pull for the Giants because it is in my blood.

But I am not going to be crying if we lose.
RE: RE: Can you please break it down  
56goat : 9/15/2024 12:40 pm : link
In comment 16609340 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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in a brief summary? I don’t go on that platform.



Jones is bad.

We're a laughing stock of an organization.

Done.


Laughing stock for a number of reasons. How many times will we see game where Giants don't have a PR or kicker or (fill in the blank). In a game today that could well be decided by FGs, to not have an actual, experienced kicker defies explanation (and I don't count Gillan).
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 12:44 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Giants starters in pre-game warmups:
OFFENSE
QB - Daniel Jones
WR1 - Malik Nabers
WR2- Darius Slayton
Slot WR - Wan'Dale Robinson
RB - Devin Singletary
TE - Theo Johnson
LT Andrew Thomas
LG Jon Runyan Jr.
C - John Michael Schmitz
RG - Greg Van Roten
RT Jermaine Eluemunor

DEFENSE
DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches
NT -Dexter Lawrence
DT Elijah Chatman
OLB Brian Burns
OLB Kayvon Thibodeaux
LB Bobby Okereke
LB Micah McFadden
CB1 Deonte Banks
CB2 Cor'Dale Flott
Slot Andru Phillips
S Jason Pinnock
S Tyler Nubin
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 12:45 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Hard to get a read on round 2 of Gano's warmups. He usually does game-like kicks with Kreiter snapping to Gillan in both directions. But he only went in one direction today. Looked like he was wide right from 51 and 50 to finish. That's shorter than his typical long attempts.

Then he didn't even warmup in the other direction, but that's probably just because the rest of the players were coming out to stretch and his detour the locker room limited his time to warm up. Didn't seem like a great process, however it turns out.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 12:46 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
#Giants Graham Gano's status (groin) is a big thing today in what should be a low-scoring close game.

He ended up finishing up his warm-up through the discomfort.

But he did not kick well through an injury last season.

You'd like to think they learn from past mistakes.
RE: RE: RE: Can you please break it down  
56goat : 9/15/2024 12:47 pm : link
In comment 16609454 56goat said:
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in a brief summary? I don’t go on that platform.



Jones is bad.

We're a laughing stock of an organization.

Done.



Laughing stock for a number of reasons. How many times will we see game where Giants don't have a PR or kicker or (fill in the blank). In a game today that could well be decided by FGs, to not have an actual, experienced kicker defies explanation (and I don't count Gillan).


That would probably be a good thread - which organizations appear to be dumber than the Giants org?
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UberAlias : 9/15/2024 12:47 pm : link
In comment 16609453 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I guess it was hasty and wrong for me to say I hope WFT wins. Once kickoff, I’ll inevitably pull for the Giants because it is in my blood.

But I am not going to be crying if we lose.


Yeah, a lot of us are conflicted, and with good reason. It's the constant tug of war between the heart and the mind. I haven't made up up my mind yet, but there's a good chance this game will decide my rooting interests on the season. Give us something to root for, or we root for change, is how I see it.
RE: RE: RE: Can you please break it down  
markky : 9/15/2024 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16609454 56goat said:
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in a brief summary? I don’t go on that platform.



Jones is bad.

We're a laughing stock of an organization.

Done.



Laughing stock for a number of reasons. How many times will we see game where Giants don't have a PR or kicker or (fill in the blank). In a game today that could well be decided by FGs, to not have an actual, experienced kicker defies explanation (and I don't count Gillan).


this is who we are now. get used to it.
Rooting for the team to lose  
Everyone Relax : 9/15/2024 12:48 pm : link
and look bad is mind blowing behavior. I get the premise of wanting a regime change is one thing, but watching the games and rooting for the team you follow to get embarrassed is serial killer type shit. Go take the kids to the park or do something else
RE: RE: If this is true...  
k2tampa : 9/15/2024 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16609323 BillKo said:
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they deserve their fate... https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1835338529049661551 - ( New Window )



Didn't listen just saw the banner at bottom: "Ease him into action". What does that mean?

Isn't that what preseason is for? You're supposed to use ALL OF CAMP to be ready for Game 1. Teams prep for opening day all camp.

I keep saying it, Daboll is a problem.


It means they are going to try to establish the run and use easy-to-complete patterns rather than calling three 7-step drop, slow-developing plays on the first series and give the Wash D-line the opportunity to crush him.

It used to be the way most teams started games. Whether it will work is the question.
How much are they losing by..  
TheEvilLurker : 9/15/2024 12:50 pm : link
J/k. I know the game hasn't started yet.
RE: RE: RE: Oh, boy  
Chocco : 9/15/2024 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16609177 Blueworm said:
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Here we go.

Is it a watchable game today?

Or another Sunday you wished you had done something else for 3 hours?



Well considering it's not on in CT, I feel my decision has been made for me



That barrier is not insurmountable.

I'll end up watching it, just bitchy about it because it's only week 2 and there is already a conflict
RE: RE: If this is true...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2024 12:53 pm : link
In comment 16609323 BillKo said:
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In comment 16609311 Eric from BBI said:


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they deserve their fate... https://x.com/RapSheet/status/1835338529049661551 - ( New Window )



Didn't listen just saw the banner at bottom: "Ease him into action". What does that mean?

Isn't that what preseason is for? You're supposed to use ALL OF CAMP to be ready for Game 1. Teams prep for opening day all camp.

I keep saying it, Daboll is a problem.


You gotta step off the ledge. It also doesn't help that you're reacting to something you didn't even hear.
How could  
Giantsbigblue : 9/15/2024 12:54 pm : link
We not learn from the Jets game last year to not go into a game with an injured kicker?
RE: Stupid fucks don't elevate the PS kicker  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/15/2024 12:54 pm : link
In comment 16609371 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Now Jamie Gillan just took one practice kick and Gano did not look comfortable. Looked like he stopped his warmups short and headed inside.


This bizarre personnel shit is soooo reminiscent of last year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: It's very difficult...  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16609365 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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it's not as hard when their #1 corner is st juste, their #2 corner who was trending bust just got surgery, and his replacement is a declared bust who has now been on 3 teams in 3 years and graded lower than #1/#2.

if they cant get the offense going this week leave everyone in washington.



Agreed. And for a team with two good DTs - at least on paper - they struggle to get a pass rush.

Clelin Ferrell isn't the solution to replace Montez Sweat.



the scary thing is recent history has dan quinn doing better vs daboll/kafka than flores' track record.



With pro bowlers and all pros at pass rush and secondary, that is not surprising.


quinns all pro db hit IR last year in preseason (diggs) and he developed another one out of nowhere (bland).

commanders secondary appears to blow but so did minnesota's - who also lost one of their starters to IR this past preseason. bobby wagner was still playing well last year. we've seen payne and allen beat us before. luvu is a good player. quinn brought a bunch of players over from dallas like armstrong who've beat us before.

hope for the best but after last week im expecting the worst from here forward.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 12:58 pm : link
First sip of Kane Head High. So delicious. I love this beer.
RE: Terps  
DefenseWins : 9/15/2024 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16609439 BigBlueCane said:
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Ronnie Barnes and the medical staff should not escape criticism.


They should have dumped Barnes years ago..
RE: RE: Stupid fucks don't elevate the PS kicker  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16609487 sb from NYT Forum said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Now Jamie Gillan just took one practice kick and Gano did not look comfortable. Looked like he stopped his warmups short and headed inside.



This bizarre personnel shit is soooo reminiscent of last year.


if this regime was in a confirmed death spiral, what would look different?
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Sean : 9/15/2024 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16609494 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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First sip of Kane Head High. So delicious. I love this beer.

Enjoy Bruce today. Should be a great show!
GO  
AcidTest : 9/15/2024 1:01 pm : link
GIANTS!
Terry McClaurin still scares me  
cpgiants : 9/15/2024 1:02 pm : link
I consider him a borderline Hall of Fame Talent
And gano  
Giantsbigblue : 9/15/2024 1:04 pm : link
Is hurt
Holy shit  
Jersey Heel : 9/15/2024 1:04 pm : link
Flag better be on them
RE: Terry McClaurin still scares me  
DefenseWins : 9/15/2024 1:04 pm : link
In comment 16609500 cpgiants said:
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I consider him a borderline Hall of Fame Talent


HUH?? HOF?

The guy has not been a top 20 WR at any point in his career.
dont usually game thread but lol at that start  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 1:04 pm : link
what an omen.
Second year in a row Gano is hurt.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/15/2024 1:04 pm : link
Enough.
Boom there go the groin  
larryflower37 : 9/15/2024 1:04 pm : link
Stupid
Oh hey  
Toth029 : 9/15/2024 1:04 pm : link
Gano is hurt? Jets 2023 game Part 2.
You can't make this up with gano  
cpgiants : 9/15/2024 1:04 pm : link
You know the guys hurting he's the only active kicker. Don't you tell him not to chase a kick off at least.
Don't worry, Ronnie Barnes to the rescue!  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/15/2024 1:05 pm : link
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Lol  
JT039 : 9/15/2024 1:05 pm : link
Kick return for a TD and a hurt kicker.

I know there was a penalty but this is why our coaching staff sucks ass.
Looks like Gano's hammy went  
56goat : 9/15/2024 1:05 pm : link
Great
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 1:05 pm : link
Gano down.

UFB.
Nice wrap up by Dru  
Mike in NY : 9/15/2024 1:05 pm : link
He was immediately in there
Obvious  
AcidTest : 9/15/2024 1:05 pm : link
hold, but still terrible ST.

And now Gano is hurt again. So great we didn't active the PS kicker.
Gano won't be  
rebel yell : 9/15/2024 1:05 pm : link
able to go. He looks done.
The beats said Gano looked bad during warmups  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/15/2024 1:05 pm : link
and they still threw him out there???!?
daboll and schoen are incompetent  
bigbluewillrise : 9/15/2024 1:06 pm : link
move on from them.

they cant even get basic injrues to a K right.

its embarrssing.
Hahahaha  
hopthered : 9/15/2024 1:06 pm : link
Hahahahahahah
Hahahahahaha

Joke
Phillips just make plays  
JT039 : 9/15/2024 1:06 pm : link
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Route 9 : 9/15/2024 1:06 pm : link
In comment 16609515 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Gano down.

UFB.


Too bad. A Giants legend. Maybe the best player we've had since OBJ. Not even gonna lie.

Dexter Lawrence?
our HC is a moron  
markky : 9/15/2024 1:06 pm : link
he doesn't learn from his own mistakes.
ronnie barnes isnt deciding the active roster  
Eric on Li : 9/15/2024 1:06 pm : link
or practice squad elevations. this is 101 stuff that would be bad enough to fail once (last year). they just failed it in an obvious must win game.
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