Think so as well. I'd like to say that's an overreaction, but given our schedule, my guess we're looking at three or four wins at most. Schoen's personnel decisions and Daboll's game day decisions have been extremely poor. They came in together, and they will likely go out the same way.
Think so as well. I'd like to say that's an overreaction, but given our schedule, my guess we're looking at three or four wins at most. Schoen's personnel decisions and Daboll's game day decisions have been extremely poor. They came in together, and they will likely go out the same way.
Score should have been a lot worse against us.
Our soft defense couldn’t stop any NFL team.
We can’t stop the run or pass. Bowen’s scheme sucks.
Daboll cannot or should not go into a game with a lame kicker. Malpractice!!!
Too bad Jones can’t play 17 games against Washington. He was good today.
2 big drops by Slayton and Nabers.
OL had a good game today.
Dru Phillips was a STUD today.
Burns and Thibs need to be more effective in the pass rush. Washington does not have a good OL.
More importantly, does Bowen realize halftime is used to make adjustments!!!
I have lost all faith in Daboll as a HC. Schoen is one step from going over the cliff.
I don’t trust these 2 guys at all in rebuilding the Giants.
We are in the Dark Ages!!!
tackling, over pursuing, missed assignments. We've seen it all before. I'm not sure why I continue to hope that we might some day stop making those mistakes. But the worst was the near total lack of pressure from BB and KT against mediocre tackles. That's on Schoen.
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Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.
Daboll is Joe Judge. I don't see any difference at this point.
Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.
I'm starting to wonder if Wink's rebellion wasn't in fact because he knew Daboll was incompetent and he tried to fix things from the DC position rather than go down with the ship.
Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.
I'm starting to wonder if Wink's rebellion wasn't in fact because he knew Daboll was incompetent and he tried to fix things from the DC position rather than go down with the ship.
Is thatbwhy he was firdd in Baltimore? or couldnt get a job in the NFL?
say Jones played well today? Laughable take. Threw into double and triple coverage numerous times. Cannot throw the deep ball. Hit a couple of wide open throws. Big fuckin whoop.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.
When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad
Who cares if it was a shit stirrer who asked it…. It is a valid question and the truth hurts. Scheon and Daboll are in over their heads and they do nothing day in and day out to prove otherwise.
and somehow our defense was even worse. I would be excited for a complete tear-down/rebuild except who has any faith in Mara getting out of his own way?
I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
We entered delusional zone now. Guy cant even get a linebacker job in the NFL.
I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
We entered delusional zone now. Guy cant even get a linebacker job in the NFL.
It's delusional to think Wink Martindale is a better defensive coordinator than Shane Bowen? Sure...
He hopped on a plane and left town trying to get paid to sit at home
going to win many games with only 4 players on the team catching passes. They need to get some other players involved. Soon enough Nabers will be double teamed
I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
The only explanation for Wink's behavior was he was trying to replace Daboll. Nothing else makes sense.
I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
The only explanation for Wink's behavior was he was trying to replace Daboll. Nothing else makes sense.
The Commanders DOMINATED the time of possession. They never punted. Defense had a lot more to do with the loss. You can’t score if you don’t have the ball. 🏈
I don't think so. If ownership thought they weren't safe, no way it doesn't mandate them to pay Barkley, no way it lets them trade draft capital and sign Burns to a massive deal, let alone let them have another go at the draft. 2 games doesn't change the calculus there. If it DOES...there is no reason to ever watch this team again until ownership sells.
on D. We did not make plays that were right in front of us. How many sacks did he run out of? BO missing tackles. JP not coming down with that Pik. When you are an average team at best, games come down to making a few more plays than your opponent. And Yes, their run D was total dogshit.
going to win many games with only 4 players on the team catching passes. They need to get some other players involved. Soon enough Nabers will be double teamed
My thoughts exactly. I read that it was the 3rd highest pass allocation to one player since 2000.
Is what led him to start a coup of think it might be successful?
His own ego? Remember he also had a falling out with John Harbaugh over his defensive schemes when they were getting hit with injuries at CB while Lamar Jackson was hurt. Harbaugh wanted to force teams to have to work to score because he could not count on his O to hold up in a shootout.
While other teams find younger kickers, we stick with an injury prone kicker at an age when athletes start breaking down.
Jones, Nabers, Singletary, Burns, and Wan’Dale show us the potential and we lose because we can’t attempt a field goal or an extra point!
Unbelievable! Cursed!
Obviously not to stop the run.
Rest of the season is just background noise.
Think so as well. I'd like to say that's an overreaction, but given our schedule, my guess we're looking at three or four wins at most. Schoen's personnel decisions and Daboll's game day decisions have been extremely poor. They came in together, and they will likely go out the same way.
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.
Rest of the season is just background noise.
Think so as well. I'd like to say that's an overreaction, but given our schedule, my guess we're looking at three or four wins at most. Schoen's personnel decisions and Daboll's game day decisions have been extremely poor. They came in together, and they will likely go out the same way.
@ this point, good fucking riddance.
Our soft defense couldn’t stop any NFL team.
We can’t stop the run or pass. Bowen’s scheme sucks.
Daboll cannot or should not go into a game with a lame kicker. Malpractice!!!
Too bad Jones can’t play 17 games against Washington. He was good today.
2 big drops by Slayton and Nabers.
OL had a good game today.
Dru Phillips was a STUD today.
Burns and Thibs need to be more effective in the pass rush. Washington does not have a good OL.
More importantly, does Bowen realize halftime is used to make adjustments!!!
I have lost all faith in Daboll as a HC. Schoen is one step from going over the cliff.
I don’t trust these 2 guys at all in rebuilding the Giants.
We are in the Dark Ages!!!
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.
Daboll is Joe Judge. I don't see any difference at this point.
That is why he has an NFL job and everyone runs their Defense like he does... ohh wait.
I'm starting to wonder if Wink's rebellion wasn't in fact because he knew Daboll was incompetent and he tried to fix things from the DC position rather than go down with the ship.
Another busted 3rd round pick.
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Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.
I'm starting to wonder if Wink's rebellion wasn't in fact because he knew Daboll was incompetent and he tried to fix things from the DC position rather than go down with the ship.
Is thatbwhy he was firdd in Baltimore? or couldnt get a job in the NFL?
If the Giants brought back Wink the same tendencies would be there.
The suck continues.
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.
When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad
Who cares if it was a shit stirrer who asked it…. It is a valid question and the truth hurts. Scheon and Daboll are in over their heads and they do nothing day in and day out to prove otherwise.
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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.
“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.
“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said
Burns with a subtle reference to the FG Kicker decision?
That was what I initially thought!
More likely he's talking about the penalties on the defense on failed third downs that extended three or four Washington drives.
Below average seems good.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
We entered delusional zone now. Guy cant even get a linebacker job in the NFL.
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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
We entered delusional zone now. Guy cant even get a linebacker job in the NFL.
It's delusional to think Wink Martindale is a better defensive coordinator than Shane Bowen? Sure...
On the plus side, the OL looks like its coming together.
Our LE and RE playing next to DEX are horrible! Double team Dex and the others can't do a damn thing!@!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8CFIB_diJs - ( New Window )
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
The only explanation for Wink's behavior was he was trying to replace Daboll. Nothing else makes sense.
Make it work? Wink started a coup.
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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.
One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.
Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
The only explanation for Wink's behavior was he was trying to replace Daboll. Nothing else makes sense.
Make it work? Wink started a coup.
+1
Bowen does suck and it was a bad hire. It seemed during the process they didn’t get the guys they wanted. And this is the end result of that.
Rest of the season is just background noise.
I don't think so. If ownership thought they weren't safe, no way it doesn't mandate them to pay Barkley, no way it lets them trade draft capital and sign Burns to a massive deal, let alone let them have another go at the draft. 2 games doesn't change the calculus there. If it DOES...there is no reason to ever watch this team again until ownership sells.
My thoughts exactly. I read that it was the 3rd highest pass allocation to one player since 2000.
Poor personnel decisions.
Poor in game decisions.
Terrible post game demeanor. Seems really put out having to answer any questions,which considering we stink week after week as fans we deserve better
His own ego? Remember he also had a falling out with John Harbaugh over his defensive schemes when they were getting hit with injuries at CB while Lamar Jackson was hurt. Harbaugh wanted to force teams to have to work to score because he could not count on his O to hold up in a shootout.
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Doesn’t change the fact we need to find his replacement for next year.
Nantes is a stud. Will help immensely with our new QB next year.
yes, he was meh. Mayfield rang up near 300 yards and 4 td’s and WTF was missing its best db today.
You know the Giants scored 3 TDs with only having the ball for 22min.