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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 4:07 pm
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section125 : 9/15/2024 5:15 pm : link
In comment 16611040 GF1080 said:
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LOL it's not BS. You hear about it all the time. Think what you need to though.


Ok...
3 Tds on only 7 drives  
larryflower37 : 9/15/2024 5:16 pm : link
2 punts
1 fumble
1 on downs.
Washington held the Ball for 37 1/2 minutes and 215 rushing yds on 35 carries.
Defense absolutely lost this game.
Shameful
Watching Burns chase down a play and just stop and watch said it all  
gtt350 : 9/15/2024 5:16 pm : link
all I could think of was LT running across the entire field to make a tackle. This guy has the right number
RE: My daughter  
Blue21 : 9/15/2024 5:16 pm : link
In comment 16610975 Eric from BBI said:
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just sent me another picture for the front page.
This ought to be good
RE: The dumb  
VTChuck : 9/15/2024 5:17 pm : link
In comment 16611006 Giantsbigblue said:
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Decision was not activating another kicker today. The even dumber decision was having Gano handle the kick offs on an injured groin.


How about Gano’s decision… as an injured 30 something year old KICKER.. going all out to to try to run down a returner like you’re a linebacker. And surprise, surprise….you pull a hammy and are probably on IR for.weeks. Dumb ass decision by a guy who wasn’t going to make the tackle anyway
RE: My daughter  
The Mike : 9/15/2024 5:17 pm : link
In comment 16610975 Eric from BBI said:
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just sent me another picture for the front page.


You have to make that your background picture on your next Inside BBI!
Thibs  
cosmicj : 9/15/2024 5:18 pm : link
Much better game. He was also pursuing way downfield. Clearly a lot of effort by him. That sack he almost got from behind the QB - boy does Daniels havev a quick release.
Just kick it in the  
Dankbeerman : 9/15/2024 5:18 pm : link
endzone and if you don't walk off the field.

Gano was behind Ekler, he was never catching him. It doesn't matter if he was favoring his groin or not he shouldn't have been running.

I understand the want to hustle, but you can't be without a kicker. Don't let him hurt himself trying to tackle.
How can it be possible we're getting worse?  
Blue21 : 9/15/2024 5:18 pm : link
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RE: Just kick it in the  
ILGMan : 9/15/2024 5:19 pm : link
In comment 16611092 Dankbeerman said:
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endzone and if you don't walk off the field.

Gano was behind Ekler, he was never catching him. It doesn't matter if he was favoring his groin or not he shouldn't have been running.

I understand the want to hustle, but you can't be without a kicker. Don't let him hurt himself trying to tackle.

Gilliam should’ve been kicking off.
The Irishman  
Blueworm : 9/15/2024 5:20 pm : link
Could have won it.

Why not a PS elevation based on the injury?
It kills me to keep saying this  
mittenedman : 9/15/2024 5:20 pm : link
but this team continues to be the Washington Generals.

Finding new, comical ways to lose every week. They play the role perfectly.

This week, their star player drops an easy pass with the game on the line, they get screwed by the officials, and they lose their K on the opening play, knowing he was gimpy and refusing to elevate their K2.

Gut wrenching loss, but this is what really bad teams do. Find ways to lose even when they should win.
Can we bring back  
Beef Wellington : 9/15/2024 5:23 pm : link
WINK? Maybe if Johnny Boy apologized ?
RE: that's  
Joe Beckwith : 9/15/2024 5:23 pm : link
In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.


I don’t think JM wants to pay for another second set of HC/GM to 2 years.
Maybe BD goes and JS gets 1 more year, unless BBrownis an acceptable next man up .
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 5:23 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 5:24 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.

“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.

“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 5:24 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
Malik Nabers: “I’m dissapointed. No matter how good of a game you can play, that last play came down to me.” #giants

“I’m hurt that I let those veterans down.”
RE: ...  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16611114 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.

“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.

“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said


Burns with a subtle reference to the FG Kicker decision?
RE: ...  
The_Boss : 9/15/2024 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.


Daboll is gonna snap. There are still plenty of L’s headed our way over the next 8 weeks…
RE: It kills me to keep saying this  
Dave in PA : 9/15/2024 5:30 pm : link
In comment 16611102 mittenedman said:
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but this team continues to be the Washington Generals.

Finding new, comical ways to lose every week. They play the role perfectly.

This week, their star player drops an easy pass with the game on the line, they get screwed by the officials, and they lose their K on the opening play, knowing he was gimpy and refusing to elevate their K2.

Gut wrenching loss, but this is what really bad teams do. Find ways to lose even when they should win.
hardly gut wrenching. Pretty damn predictable actually
RE: ...  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 5:30 pm : link
In comment 16611119 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
Malik Nabers: “I’m dissapointed. No matter how good of a game you can play, that last play came down to me.” #giants

“I’m hurt that I let those veterans down.”


Good game. Yeah, you have to catch that one.

Not sure we would have scored a TD anyway if you did, but whatever.
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islander1 : 9/15/2024 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16611138 ThomasG said:
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In comment 16611114 Eric from BBI said:


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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.

“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.

“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said



Burns with a subtle reference to the FG Kicker decision?


That was what I initially thought!
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2024 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.


When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad
RE: ...  
Mike from Ohio : 9/15/2024 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16611119 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
Malik Nabers: “I’m dissapointed. No matter how good of a game you can play, that last play came down to me.” #giants

“I’m hurt that I let those veterans down.”


Nabers was a bright spot today and good for him he thinks about it that way. But he was also the only reason we were in this game at all. He’ll make that catch in the games we need to win. A loss today was completely meaningless.
RE: If they kick the extra points  
compton : 9/15/2024 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16610992 TheEvilLurker said:
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They win this game. It's all on coaching for me.


I'm glad you brought that up. The 2 point conversion attempts didn't make sense to me. After the TD the Giants went up by three. A pat puts the Giants up by 4. A successful 2 point conversion puts them up by 5. What's the the difference being up 4 points vs 5 points. My only guess is Daboll lost all confidence in the kicker after the missed pat. And he made that decision twice under the same circumstance.
Our DL  
OlyWABigBlue : 9/15/2024 5:41 pm : link
needs to wake up and someone other than Dex needs to make plays. Also need the previous version of Okereke to show up.

On the plus side, the OL looks like its coming together.
I can't stand coaches like Bowen  
mittenedman : 9/15/2024 5:41 pm : link
Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.
RE: RE: ...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/15/2024 5:43 pm : link
In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad


Pat Leonard’s involvement is the only possible thing that could keep me on Daboll’s side.
Positives:  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/15/2024 5:45 pm : link
#22

#10

Quite possibly the best Giants offensive line in the past decade
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The_Boss : 9/15/2024 5:45 pm : link
In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad


How do we know it’s Leonard who asked?
The missed PAT wasn't even Gilliam's fault  
ILGMan : 9/15/2024 5:46 pm : link
look at the replay and you will see laces facing wrong way.

Maybe he didn't trust the backup holder? Whatever it was it is embarassing.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2024 5:46 pm : link
In comment 16611212 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad



How do we know it’s Leonard who asked?


You can hear someone say Pat your turn and then the question is asked
When they hired Bowen, I was  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 5:47 pm : link
looking forward to watching a defense play with physicality.

I’m still waiting.
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The_Boss : 9/15/2024 5:48 pm : link
In comment 16611216 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad



How do we know it’s Leonard who asked?



You can hear someone say Pat your turn and then the question is asked


Ahh ok. Thanks.
Bowen was Vrabel's yes  
mittenedman : 9/15/2024 5:50 pm : link
man just like he is Daboll's now. "Won't rock the boat."

Say what you will about Wink, this guy can't carry Wink's jockstrap.
RE: RE: The dumb  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 5:50 pm : link
In comment 16611087 VTChuck said:
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Decision was not activating another kicker today. The even dumber decision was having Gano handle the kick offs on an injured groin.



How about Gano’s decision… as an injured 30 something year old KICKER.. going all out to to try to run down a returner like you’re a linebacker. And surprise, surprise….you pull a hammy and are probably on IR for.weeks. Dumb ass decision by a guy who wasn’t going to make the tackle anyway


Come on, really? You’re gonna get on a guy for hustling? Take a break.
RE: I don’t think we win a game the rest of the season  
5BowlsSoon : 9/15/2024 5:53 pm : link
In comment 16610913 NJ_GIANTS said:
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We have some really good players, but not a team. The coaching staff has just gotten worse this year, terrible play calling.

#1 pick in the draft, here we come.


NOT SO FAST…..Carolina is much worse and they will be looking to draft another QB after the Bryce Young debacle….
RE: Can we bring back  
Wiggy : 9/15/2024 5:55 pm : link
In comment 16611108 Beef Wellington said:
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WINK? Maybe if Johnny Boy apologized ?
sure! And let’s get rid of Daboll so it’s not an uncomfortable environment for him
RE: ...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 5:57 pm : link
In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.


I'm no fan of Leonard, but that isn't an outrageous ?. And Dabs is wilting.
This organization is clearly CURSED!  
GiantBlue : 9/15/2024 5:58 pm : link
We find more unique ways to lose games than any organization I know.

While other teams find younger kickers, we stick with an injury prone kicker at an age when athletes start breaking down.

Jones, Nabers, Singletary, Burns, and Wan’Dale show us the potential and we lose because we can’t attempt a field goal or an extra point!

Unbelievable! Cursed!
RE: What’s with these 2 DL fronts?  
jeff57 : 9/15/2024 6:02 pm : link
In comment 16611075 cosmicj said:
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I was hoping they would become a specialty formation post Wink.


Obviously not to stop the run.
RE: that's  
AcidTest : 9/15/2024 6:03 pm : link
In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.


Think so as well. I'd like to say that's an overreaction, but given our schedule, my guess we're looking at three or four wins at most. Schoen's personnel decisions and Daboll's game day decisions have been extremely poor. They came in together, and they will likely go out the same way.
RE: RE: that's  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 6:05 pm : link
In comment 16611274 AcidTest said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.



Think so as well. I'd like to say that's an overreaction, but given our schedule, my guess we're looking at three or four wins at most. Schoen's personnel decisions and Daboll's game day decisions have been extremely poor. They came in together, and they will likely go out the same way.


@ this point, good fucking riddance.
The strategy of not forcing Washington to punt  
jeff57 : 9/15/2024 6:06 pm : link
Worked brilliantly
I’ve been following this team for over 40 years,  
Silver Spoon : 9/15/2024 6:07 pm : link
And I really don’t give a shit anymore. Team has been a clusterfuck for almost 15 years, enough already.
Washington penalties in red zone kept us in the game imv  
Rick in Dallas : 9/15/2024 6:07 pm : link
Score should have been a lot worse against us.
Our soft defense couldn’t stop any NFL team.
We can’t stop the run or pass. Bowen’s scheme sucks.
Daboll cannot or should not go into a game with a lame kicker. Malpractice!!!
Too bad Jones can’t play 17 games against Washington. He was good today.
2 big drops by Slayton and Nabers.
OL had a good game today.
Dru Phillips was a STUD today.
Burns and Thibs need to be more effective in the pass rush. Washington does not have a good OL.

More importantly, does Bowen realize halftime is used to make adjustments!!!
I have lost all faith in Daboll as a HC. Schoen is one step from going over the cliff.
I don’t trust these 2 guys at all in rebuilding the Giants.
We are in the Dark Ages!!!

Bad  
AcidTest : 9/15/2024 6:08 pm : link
tackling, over pursuing, missed assignments. We've seen it all before. I'm not sure why I continue to hope that we might some day stop making those mistakes. But the worst was the near total lack of pressure from BB and KT against mediocre tackles. That's on Schoen.
RE: ...  
FStubbs : 9/15/2024 6:09 pm : link
In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.


Daboll is Joe Judge. I don't see any difference at this point.
RE: I can't stand coaches like Bowen  
NYGiantFL007 : 9/15/2024 6:10 pm : link
In comment 16611190 mittenedman said:
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Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.



That is why he has an NFL job and everyone runs their Defense like he does... ohh wait.
RE: I can't stand coaches like Bowen  
FStubbs : 9/15/2024 6:11 pm : link
In comment 16611190 mittenedman said:
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Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.


I'm starting to wonder if Wink's rebellion wasn't in fact because he knew Daboll was incompetent and he tried to fix things from the DC position rather than go down with the ship.
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