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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 4:07 pm
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how about Hyatt?  
jmalls23 : 9/15/2024 6:13 pm : link
he does not play!
Hyatt is way overrated by BBI  
Rick in Dallas : 9/15/2024 6:20 pm : link
It takes a lot more than just being fast to be a NFL WR.
Another busted 3rd round pick.
RE: RE: I can't stand coaches like Bowen  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2024 6:20 pm : link
In comment 16611303 FStubbs said:
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Wink wasn't perfect but they have a massive downgrade at DC.



I'm starting to wonder if Wink's rebellion wasn't in fact because he knew Daboll was incompetent and he tried to fix things from the DC position rather than go down with the ship.


Is thatbwhy he was firdd in Baltimore? or couldnt get a job in the NFL?
FStubbs  
cosmicj : 9/15/2024 6:22 pm : link
I’ve been wondering the same thing. We’re judging the situation based on the word from one side, not both.
RE: Can we bring back  
Angel Eyes : 9/15/2024 6:24 pm : link
In comment 16611108 Beef Wellington said:
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WINK? Maybe if Johnny Boy apologized ?

If the Giants brought back Wink the same tendencies would be there.
Did somebody  
Maggot Brain : 9/15/2024 6:30 pm : link
say Jones played well today? Laughable take. Threw into double and triple coverage numerous times. Cannot throw the deep ball. Hit a couple of wide open throws. Big fuckin whoop.
Jones is not good. Period!  
GiantBlue : 9/15/2024 6:36 pm : link
But Nabers is happy getting all those throws.

The suck continues.
RE: RE: ...  
Skully88 : 9/15/2024 6:38 pm : link
In comment 16611155 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16611111 Eric from BBI said:


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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Daboll got his first direct question about his job security. He was asked if he's concerned about his job if the results don't change. Daboll said, "I've done this for a long time. My focus is on the football team." He then directed a long glare at the reporter.



When you realize its Pat Leonard asking the quesiton you realize why Daboll got so mad



Who cares if it was a shit stirrer who asked it…. It is a valid question and the truth hurts. Scheon and Daboll are in over their heads and they do nothing day in and day out to prove otherwise.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
k2tampa : 9/15/2024 6:40 pm : link
In comment 16611152 islander1 said:
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In comment 16611114 Eric from BBI said:


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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Brian Burns still in his uniform when we entered the locker room.

“Pissed.” Said the #Giants’ “competitive stamina” needs to improve. And they have to stop beating themselves.

“When you shoot yourself in the foot, you’re fucking yourself,” Burns said



Burns with a subtle reference to the FG Kicker decision?



That was what I initially thought!


More likely he's talking about the penalties on the defense on failed third downs that extended three or four Washington drives.
Bar  
jwb50 : 9/15/2024 6:45 pm : link
Has been so fuckin low with GM HC and QB
Below average seems good.
18 points against one of the worst defenses in the league  
SimpleMan : 9/15/2024 6:46 pm : link
and somehow our defense was even worse. I would be excited for a complete tear-down/rebuild except who has any faith in Mara getting out of his own way?
Wink  
PhilSimms15 : 9/15/2024 6:52 pm : link
I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.
RE: Wink  
NYGiantFL007 : 9/15/2024 7:05 pm : link
In comment 16611412 PhilSimms15 said:
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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.


We entered delusional zone now. Guy cant even get a linebacker job in the NFL.
RE: RE: Wink  
mittenedman : 9/15/2024 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16611444 NYGiantFL007 said:
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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.



We entered delusional zone now. Guy cant even get a linebacker job in the NFL.


It's delusional to think Wink Martindale is a better defensive coordinator than Shane Bowen? Sure...
He hopped on a plane and left town trying to get paid to sit at home  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2024 7:21 pm : link
after his defensive assistants tried to undermine the head coach. I don't know how you 'make that work'.
RE: Our DL  
bluewave : 9/15/2024 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16611188 OlyWABigBlue said:
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needs to wake up and someone other than Dex needs to make plays. Also need the previous version of Okereke to show up.

On the plus side, the OL looks like its coming together.


Our LE and RE playing next to DEX are horrible! Double team Dex and the others can't do a damn thing!@!
You are not  
TommyWiseau : 9/15/2024 7:25 pm : link
going to win many games with only 4 players on the team catching passes. They need to get some other players involved. Soon enough Nabers will be double teamed
Be interested in hearing  
bc4life : 9/15/2024 7:25 pm : link
Sy and Skinner's review. It's going to take the defense a while to gel.
Postgame interview - Daboll and others  
US1 Giants : 9/15/2024 7:26 pm : link
Daboll sounds defensive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8CFIB_diJs - ( New Window )
RE: Wink  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2024 7:36 pm : link
In comment 16611412 PhilSimms15 said:
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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.


The only explanation for Wink's behavior was he was trying to replace Daboll. Nothing else makes sense.

Make it work? Wink started a coup.
RE: RE: Wink  
MojoEd : 9/15/2024 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16611527 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16611412 PhilSimms15 said:


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I’m still not clear why Daboll couldn’t make it work with his DC. Wink’s defense wasn’t perfect but his defense was a leaning in defense and Bowen’s is a lean out.

One brings the energy to the other team and one feels like the D is on its heels.

Also, Wink’s defense lead the league in forced turnovers last season.



The only explanation for Wink's behavior was he was trying to replace Daboll. Nothing else makes sense.

Make it work? Wink started a coup.

+1
RE: Wink  
bc4life : 9/15/2024 7:43 pm : link
see Dallas Cowboy games
Let’s be serious here  
Paul326 : 9/15/2024 7:45 pm : link
The Commanders DOMINATED the time of possession. They never punted. Defense had a lot more to do with the loss. You can’t score if you don’t have the ball. 🏈
Paul326  
bc4life : 9/15/2024 7:46 pm : link
Could not see the game- wonder who the main culprits were
So Bowen’s defense sucks against the run,  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 7:48 pm : link
but you want to bring Wink back? His run defenses were worse. Scheme is part of it, but a lack of impact players is too. That is on Schoen.
Winks defense were not good  
GiantsFan84 : 9/15/2024 7:49 pm : link
He sucked against good teams and beat up scrub QBs. Stop w making him sound good.

Bowen does suck and it was a bad hire. It seemed during the process they didn’t get the guys they wanted. And this is the end result of that.
RE: that's  
rnargi : 9/15/2024 7:51 pm : link
In comment 16610844 Eric from BBI said:
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the end of Schoen and Daboll.

Rest of the season is just background noise.


I don't think so. If ownership thought they weren't safe, no way it doesn't mandate them to pay Barkley, no way it lets them trade draft capital and sign Burns to a massive deal, let alone let them have another go at the draft. 2 games doesn't change the calculus there. If it DOES...there is no reason to ever watch this team again until ownership sells.
The thing  
jtfuoco : 9/15/2024 7:55 pm : link
About Wink he was not great but i would rather go down swinging then die by a thousand paper cuts like you see with this staff.
Coaching was not too bad  
JohnnyFlowers : 9/15/2024 8:16 pm : link
on D. We did not make plays that were right in front of us. How many sacks did he run out of? BO missing tackles. JP not coming down with that Pik. When you are an average team at best, games come down to making a few more plays than your opponent. And Yes, their run D was total dogshit.
RE: You are not  
santacruzom : 9/15/2024 8:21 pm : link
In comment 16611493 TommyWiseau said:
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going to win many games with only 4 players on the team catching passes. They need to get some other players involved. Soon enough Nabers will be double teamed


My thoughts exactly. I read that it was the 3rd highest pass allocation to one player since 2000.
Jesus!  
'25GiantsPride : 9/15/2024 8:22 pm : link
Did you all watch the same game I did!?! Flat and bad coaching. It's a theme with this organization whether it's the QB or the team. Bad football!
the interesting question on Martindale  
HomerJones45 : 9/15/2024 8:53 pm : link
Is what led him to start a coup of think it might be successful?
I really do not see anything above average in Daboll  
kelly : 9/15/2024 9:02 pm : link
In fact i see a way below average HC.

Poor personnel decisions.

Poor in game decisions.

Terrible post game demeanor. Seems really put out having to answer any questions,which considering we stink week after week as fans we deserve better
Sy’ posting  
ColHowPepper : 9/15/2024 9:07 pm : link
NYG only the 2nd time in NFL history to score 3 TDs, allow none and lose (he’s not vouching for its accuracy)
the lack of practice and real hitting  
BigBlueCane : 9/16/2024 3:40 am : link
in preseason is also taking its toll on teams with new defensive schemes and coaches.
RE: the interesting question on Martindale  
Mike in NY : 9/16/2024 4:47 am : link
In comment 16611750 HomerJones45 said:
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Is what led him to start a coup of think it might be successful?


His own ego? Remember he also had a falling out with John Harbaugh over his defensive schemes when they were getting hit with injuries at CB while Lamar Jackson was hurt. Harbaugh wanted to force teams to have to work to score because he could not count on his O to hold up in a shootout.
FYI  
jeff57 : 9/16/2024 8:21 am : link
McKinney had another INT yesterday.
McKinney not missed  
bc4life : 9/16/2024 8:24 am : link
Leo Williams is
RE: RE: Solid game from Jones  
kickoff : 9/16/2024 1:46 pm : link
In comment 16610911 HomerJones45 said:
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Doesn’t change the fact we need to find his replacement for next year.

Nantes is a stud. Will help immensely with our new QB next year.

yes, he was meh. Mayfield rang up near 300 yards and 4 td’s and WTF was missing its best db today.

You know the Giants scored 3 TDs with only having the ball for 22min.
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