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Daboll very defensive in post game presser about Gano

Sean : 9/15/2024 4:34 pm
We keep watching the same movie. The implosion is well under way.
Daboll sucks  
JT039 : 9/15/2024 4:42 pm : link
He’s irrelevant at this point.
Daboll is not a doctor  
No1MDGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 4:43 pm : link
He was obviously told he can play and showed it in practice. Oh and this was a completely separate injury than the groin.
RE: Daboll is not a doctor  
RHPeel : 9/15/2024 4:46 pm : link
In comment 16610936 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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He was obviously told he can play and showed it in practice. Oh and this was a completely separate injury than the groin.


It is reasonable to assume that compensating for the groin injury caused a hamstring injury.

Giants needed to elevate a kicker from the practice squad for this game. Absolutely inexcusable.
I didn't watch. What did he say?  
Anakim : 9/15/2024 4:46 pm : link
Did Saquon Barkley reach out to him begging to come back?
RE: Daboll is not a doctor  
Costy16 : 9/15/2024 4:48 pm : link
In comment 16610936 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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He was obviously told he can play and showed it in practice. Oh and this was a completely separate injury than the groin.


They had 52 active players, how much would it have pained them to make a second kicker available?

They didn’t even have 53 guys on the active roster! That is malpractice. A groin can easily be re-aggravated. Gross mismanagement of the roster.
The ineptitude is layered  
Go Terps : 9/15/2024 4:50 pm : link
1. How do they enter the game with Gano as the only locker?

2. Once he's hurt, how do you play defense in such a way as to invite Washington into FG range before tightening up? How did they not adjust their overall gameplay accordingly?

For all the guys that wouldn't consider Belichick next year, does anyone think he handles the game with such stupidity and disrespect for the kicking game?

By the way, it should be reiterated that Washington is one of the very worst teams in the NFL.

This team is going to start like 1-8, then win enough games to bring everyone back.
*only kicker  
Go Terps : 9/15/2024 4:50 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 4:51 pm : link
This shit wouldn’t happen with BB.
RE: RE: Daboll is not a doctor  
Section331 : 9/15/2024 4:52 pm : link
In comment 16610953 Costy16 said:
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In comment 16610936 No1MDGiantsFan said:


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He was obviously told he can play and showed it in practice. Oh and this was a completely separate injury than the groin.



They had 52 active players, how much would it have pained them to make a second kicker available?

They didn’t even have 53 guys on the active roster! That is malpractice. A groin can easily be re-aggravated. Gross mismanagement of the roster.


But is that Daboll’s call? I have no idea why, for the 2nd game in a row, they didn’t dress 53, but is that on Daboll, Schoen or both?
like it or not  
RasputinPrime : 9/15/2024 5:12 pm : link
this franchise just can't find and develop off-field talent that competes in this NFL.
RE: The ineptitude is layered  
Sean : 9/15/2024 5:14 pm : link
In comment 16610964 Go Terps said:
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1. How do they enter the game with Gano as the only locker?

2. Once he's hurt, how do you play defense in such a way as to invite Washington into FG range before tightening up? How did they not adjust their overall gameplay accordingly?

For all the guys that wouldn't consider Belichick next year, does anyone think he handles the game with such stupidity and disrespect for the kicking game?

By the way, it should be reiterated that Washington is one of the very worst teams in the NFL.

This team is going to start like 1-8, then win enough games to bring everyone back.

I'd hire Belichick tonight. The arrogance for this shit franchise to dismiss him. We can't think about super bowls now, how about consistent competence.
Of course the injuries are related  
Mike from Ohio : 9/15/2024 5:14 pm : link
It was idiocy to go into a game with an injured kicker and an open roster spot instead of activating the PS kicker.

Daboll is absolutely not the guy.
RE: Of course the injuries are related  
No1MDGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 5:16 pm : link
In comment 16611077 Mike from Ohio said:
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It was idiocy to go into a game with an injured kicker and an open roster spot instead of activating the PS kicker.

Daboll is absolutely not the guy.


Are you a doctor?
Just an unforced error for Schoen/Daboll.  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 5:17 pm : link
Amateur Hour replaces Happy Hour at 1925 Giants Drive.

Imagine the retrospect on this hits an all-time high by tomorrow morning.

A new high in low for our beloved Giants.
RE: RE: Of course the injuries are related  
Mike from Ohio : 9/15/2024 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16611082 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16611077 Mike from Ohio said:


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It was idiocy to go into a game with an injured kicker and an open roster spot instead of activating the PS kicker.

Daboll is absolutely not the guy.



Are you a doctor?


No, but I do have common sense. That is all this situation called for. We didn’t get it.
why wouldn’t they have Gilliam kick off for touch backs all day?  
ILGMan : 9/15/2024 5:18 pm : link
Ganó shouldn’t have been covering kicks if he was hurt.
RE: RE: Daboll is not a doctor  
cosmicj : 9/15/2024 5:19 pm : link
In comment 16610953 Costy16 said:
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In comment 16610936 No1MDGiantsFan said:


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He was obviously told he can play and showed it in practice. Oh and this was a completely separate injury than the groin.



They had 52 active players, how much would it have pained them to make a second kicker available?

They didn’t even have 53 guys on the active roster! That is malpractice. A groin can easily be re-aggravated. Gross mismanagement of the roster.


Wait, hold on, they only had 52 active? Holy crap.
RE: RE: Of course the injuries are related  
ThomasG : 9/15/2024 5:20 pm : link
In comment 16611082 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16611077 Mike from Ohio said:


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It was idiocy to go into a game with an injured kicker and an open roster spot instead of activating the PS kicker.

Daboll is absolutely not the guy.



Are you a doctor?


Yes
RE: RE: Of course the injuries are related  
Skully88 : 9/15/2024 5:24 pm : link
In comment 16611082 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16611077 Mike from Ohio said:


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It was idiocy to go into a game with an injured kicker and an open roster spot instead of activating the PS kicker.

Daboll is absolutely not the guy.



Are you a doctor?


The poster doesn’t need to be.

What are the relative $$$ to have a healthy practice squad kicker on the roster?

Especially for a team that is adverse to scoring TDs?


It is negligent and malfeasant to have that be the kicking situ when you go into the game with 52 active players. Doesn’t matter if Gano is affected by an amputation or a hang nail. Not addressing it is blantent stupidity irregardless of a medical degree or not.
I will save the  
jvm52106 : 9/15/2024 5:24 pm : link
Bulk of what I have to say for tomorrow night.

So many things wrong today that I just cannot see how this ends well for Daboll.
And yes….  
Skully88 : 9/15/2024 5:26 pm : link
I am well aware irregarless is not a word.

Which I doubt Scheon or Daboll are.
RE: RE: RE: Daboll is not a doctor  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/15/2024 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16610976 Section331 said:
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In comment 16610936 No1MDGiantsFan said:


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He was obviously told he can play and showed it in practice. Oh and this was a completely separate injury than the groin.



They had 52 active players, how much would it have pained them to make a second kicker available?

They didn’t even have 53 guys on the active roster! That is malpractice. A groin can easily be re-aggravated. Gross mismanagement of the roster.



But is that Daboll’s call? I have no idea why, for the 2nd game in a row, they didn’t dress 53, but is that on Daboll, Schoen or both?


Gameday decisions are the HC's call.
RE: RE: RE: Daboll is not a doctor  
JFIB : 9/15/2024 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16611098 cosmicj said:
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In comment 16610936 No1MDGiantsFan said:


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He was obviously told he can play and showed it in practice. Oh and this was a completely separate injury than the groin.



They had 52 active players, how much would it have pained them to make a second kicker available?

They didn’t even have 53 guys on the active roster! That is malpractice. A groin can easily be re-aggravated. Gross mismanagement of the roster.



Wait, hold on, they only had 52 active? Holy crap.


I didn’t know they only had 52 today. WTF?. Why not elevate the PS guy just in case? Inexcusable!,
Punt returner re-injured pre-game last week…  
Skully88 : 9/15/2024 5:34 pm : link
And kicker goes into the game injured this week…

No back-up plan in either situation….

BRILLIANT!!!!
Dan Duggan prior to the game  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/15/2024 5:42 pm : link
https://x.com/dduggan21/status/1835347368335556925?s=46&t=qtGeTWnJxAygMTcjPU9BAg
RE: Daboll is not a doctor  
GoDeep13 : 9/15/2024 5:42 pm : link
In comment 16610936 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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He was obviously told he can play and showed it in practice. Oh and this was a completely separate injury than the groin.
Here is why it means diddily SQUAT that it wasn't the groin. You have a kicker that was banged up all week, and was injured the year before (which burned you) and you don't have ANY backup ready? At ALL!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!?
RE: RE: Of course the injuries are related  
Mike from Ohio : 9/15/2024 5:47 pm : link
In comment 16611082 No1MDGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16611077 Mike from Ohio said:


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It was idiocy to go into a game with an injured kicker and an open roster spot instead of activating the PS kicker.

Daboll is absolutely not the guy.



Are you a doctor?


See Duggar’s post. Gano was wincing during pre-game warm-ups and cut his warm ups short. Gillan came out and started practicing field goals.

But yeah, Gano was probably completely fine and the hamstring pull completely unrelated to any existing injuries. That is completely logical.
I’m sticking with  
Joe Beckwith : 9/15/2024 5:53 pm : link
BD is Joe Judgeing, and/ or showing up JS for not getting him ‘players’.
There is no way Mara has any trash cans left  
Blue21 : 9/15/2024 5:55 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 5:55 pm : link
Dabs is a goner IMO. The bigger ? is if Schoen follows him out the door.
How many more games will Daboll be an employee of the NY Giants?  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/15/2024 5:55 pm : link
I hope he is fired now, but Schoen won't sack his friend. Schoen should also be terminated.
Under their watch this team has become unwatchable.
Schoen’s teenage son…  
Skully88 : 9/15/2024 5:58 pm : link
Knows a whole lot more about football than his dad.
The irony here is...  
bw in dc : 9/15/2024 6:02 pm : link
Daboll called a pretty decent game offensively.

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Mdgiantsfan : 9/15/2024 6:19 pm : link
Gano is the 7th highest paid kicker in the league. At 37 and often injured, I never saw the value in keeping him at the salary they are playing him.
RE: The irony here is...  
Giantsbigblue : 9/15/2024 6:22 pm : link
In comment 16611270 bw in dc said:
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Daboll called a pretty decent game offensively.


Agreed. I said it in another thread that Daboll the head coach screwed Daboll the play caller today.
RE: Schoen’s teenage son…  
bw in dc : 9/15/2024 6:24 pm : link
In comment 16611260 Skully88 said:
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Knows a whole lot more about football than his dad.


He gave his dad great advice draft day on Hard Knocks.
RE: RE: Schoen’s teenage son…  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 6:29 pm : link
In comment 16611339 bw in dc said:
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Knows a whole lot more about football than his dad.



He gave his dad great advice draft day on Hard Knocks.


Joe seems like a good dude. But I hope he's fired after this season. This is YEAR THREE under Schoen & the best two dudes on the team were drafted by his predecessor.
RE: RE: RE: Of course the injuries are related  
Wiggy : 9/15/2024 6:32 pm : link
In comment 16611115 Skully88 said:
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In comment 16611082 No1MDGiantsFan said:


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In comment 16611077 Mike from Ohio said:


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It was idiocy to go into a game with an injured kicker and an open roster spot instead of activating the PS kicker.

Daboll is absolutely not the guy.



Are you a doctor?



The poster doesn’t need to be.

What are the relative $$$ to have a healthy practice squad kicker on the roster?

Especially for a team that is adverse to scoring TDs?


It is negligent and malfeasant to have that be the kicking situ when you go into the game with 52 active players. Doesn’t matter if Gano is affected by an amputation or a hang nail. Not addressing it is blantent stupidity irregardless of a medical degree or not.
Daboll doesn’t respect ST and it will cost him his job
RE: RE: The irony here is...  
bw in dc : 9/15/2024 6:34 pm : link
In comment 16611335 Giantsbigblue said:
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In comment 16611270 bw in dc said:


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Daboll called a pretty decent game offensively.




Agreed. I said it in another thread that Daboll the head coach screwed Daboll the play caller today.


That nails it - well said.
RE: The irony here is...  
Mike from Ohio : 9/15/2024 6:40 pm : link
In comment 16611270 bw in dc said:
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Daboll called a pretty decent game offensively.


Daboll seems to be one of those guys is cut out to be a coordinator, not a head coach.
RE: RE: The irony here is...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2024 6:46 pm : link
In comment 16611374 Mike from Ohio said:
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Daboll called a pretty decent game offensively.




Daboll seems to be one of those guys is cut out to be a coordinator, not a head coach.


Well, I suspect he'll be one again after this season. This is going to cost him his job. And I think he knows it.
It's a pattern  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/15/2024 7:23 pm : link
That whole I have been doing this a long time thing is old. I am not surprised much by how this is playing out.

Best to say I take full responsivity and/or no excuse. Veer much outside those two things it doesn't end well.


RE: It's a pattern  
Giantsbigblue : 9/15/2024 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16611487 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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That whole I have been doing this a long time thing is old. I am not surprised much by how this is playing out.

Best to say I take full responsivity and/or no excuse. Veer much outside those two things it doesn't end well.



A good leader takes accountability. Especially when its 100% their fault
 
christian : 9/15/2024 7:27 pm : link
LoS, I know you're no fan of Daboll, but implying you don't like his parenting style is a bit much, no?
I have  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/15/2024 7:33 pm : link
never been around a leader in my life in any profession who would not understand what I posted Christian.

You have been through some very special leadership training I guess....glad I was not apart of that.
I'm almost a doctor, lol  
Bill in UT : 9/15/2024 7:36 pm : link
And I said before the game that it was moronic to play a kicker with a groin tweak, and that this was on Daboll and Ronnie Barnes. And maybe on Gano also, if he downplayed the injury. Regardless, I think we need to move past Gano
RE: I have  
christian : 9/15/2024 7:38 pm : link
In comment 16611519 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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never been around a leader in my life in any profession who would not understand what I posted Christian.

I'm gonna got out on a limb and guess most of the leaders you've been around would be a little confused by your bizarre misuse of the word "responsivity."

But based on your general reading comprehension exhibited on this site, maybe not?
Christian  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/15/2024 7:49 pm : link
See the post below my initial one. That poster easily understood it. Any credible leader would.

For about the 100th time, maybe best to engage elsewhere. I find you exceptionally weak and not all that bright. Yet you keep following me around which is telling.
 
christian : 9/15/2024 7:50 pm : link
I'm giving you a good natured hard time. I think the Internet is making you sensitive old timer.
I am at ease  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/15/2024 7:59 pm : link
as I told you on that call out thread you did on me. The one that blew up on you. You're the one who has the issues.

 
christian : 9/15/2024 8:01 pm : link
I think you're a really funny, entertaining guy. I get a kick out of your contributions to this site.
52 guys were dressed  
Skully88 : 9/15/2024 9:59 pm : link
To not dress 53 is negligent. For any little reason at all.... They let you dress 53. A tour golfer would not start a round with 13 clubs. A MLB team would bit roll with 24. Dressing one less is fucking stupid and negligent. Even if it's an emergency kicker who fills Gatorade from the bucket and does nothing else, it's a multi billion dollar league and you don't even wanna meet the minimum allowed? Why on God's green earth is this even a thing... Fire them all.
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