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Mara's relationship with Belichick after Flores lawsuit

Spartan10 : 9/16/2024 10:59 am
For those who want Belichick (and I won't argue against it) I thought the Mara's relationship with Belichick soured somewhat in the aftermath of the Flores lawsuit since it was Belichick who texted Flores mistakenly which prompted the lawsuit? Would this prevent the Mara's from hiring Belichick? Beside wanting more control, I wonder if this would be another hurdle to Belichick returning.
I'm not certain hiring BB as HC is the right move,  
Section331 : 9/16/2024 11:05 am : link
but it would e peak John Mara to let a stupid incident like that cloud his judgement. If he lets a dumb mistake prevent him from hiring the HC he wants, than he is weaker than anyone thinks.
 
christian : 9/16/2024 11:22 am : link
I was just going to start a thread addressing a similar topic.

The Giants aren't hiring Belichick mid-season in any capacity, because it overly complicates adherence to Rooney rules.

If the Giants hire Belichick in some kind of football czar capacity right now, it effectively precludes him from being head coach or GM.

The Giants cannot in good faith then turn around and stage a phony job search that satisfies the hiring practices next year.

The guy that got himself involved in the last search, that instigated a lawsuit, can't then turn around and hire himself as the coach or GM in an open competition against minority candidates.

If the Giants want Belichick, they should settle the Flores suit ASAP. Then conduct a by-the-book hiring search in the offseason.
Flores would be the better choice  
JohnF : 9/16/2024 11:30 am : link
I love Belichick, but he's not suited for a full franchise reboot, which is what needs to happen (AGAIN!!!).

Hiring Flores would solve a lot of the issues here. We would get a tough coach that would instill that toughness in the Defense and the rest of the team, and he'd likely withdraw the lawsuit.

Schoen would have to go, though, he's tied to the hip with Daboll.
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Spartan10 : 9/16/2024 11:31 am : link
good points christian.
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christian : 9/16/2024 11:36 am : link
If you're going to hire the guy who was very much involved in the last time you stepped in it re: fair hiring practices (and is very likely to be subpoenaed if the case goes to trial) -- you have to thread that needle perfectly.

I am not saying it can't happen. But Mara is hopefully smart enough to not create the impression Belichick cut in line, or worse the Giants are running a sham interview for a GM in-name-only, and Belichick the executive is really the GM.
sorry Christian  
The Jake : 9/16/2024 11:48 am : link
Mara isn't smart enough to tie his own shoes without tipping over.
I think BB's ideal role would be the adult in the room  
56goat : 9/16/2024 12:09 pm : link
"Brian, field goals are important for teams that don't score a lot of points. Bring up the other guy from the PS before the game in case Gano pulls something - he's already hurting".

"Maybe I wasn't clear enough - GET ANOTHER ^$#%% KICKER ON THE ACTIVE ROSTER, NOW!!!"
The big question: How's Mara's relationship with Ernie Adams?  
CT Charlie : 9/16/2024 12:54 pm : link
Insiders know that Ernie was BB's wizard behind the curtain.
RE: Flores would be the better choice  
Section331 : 9/16/2024 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16612427 JohnF said:
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I love Belichick, but he's not suited for a full franchise reboot, which is what needs to happen (AGAIN!!!).

Hiring Flores would solve a lot of the issues here. We would get a tough coach that would instill that toughness in the Defense and the rest of the team, and he'd likely withdraw the lawsuit.

Schoen would have to go, though, he's tied to the hip with Daboll.


I don’t see Flores getting or taking an interview here.
Flores?  
Milton : 9/16/2024 1:48 pm : link
Why would you sign a guy who unfairly sued you? I certainly wouldn't. And that's besides the fact that Flores sounds like a complete jerk.
Flores  
Hilary : 9/16/2024 3:10 pm : link
Tua had nothing good to say about Flores. Good defensive coach.
Not a nice man. Pass
RE: …  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/16/2024 5:25 pm : link
In comment 16612417 christian said:
Quote:
I was just going to start a thread addressing a similar topic.

The Giants aren't hiring Belichick mid-season in any capacity, because it overly complicates adherence to Rooney rules.

If the Giants hire Belichick in some kind of football czar capacity right now, it effectively precludes him from being head coach or GM.

The Giants cannot in good faith then turn around and stage a phony job search that satisfies the hiring practices next year.

The guy that got himself involved in the last search, that instigated a lawsuit, can't then turn around and hire himself as the coach or GM in an open competition against minority candidates.

If the Giants want Belichick, they should settle the Flores suit ASAP. Then conduct a by-the-book hiring search in the offseason.


Wasn’t Jeff Saturday hired midseason and off the street?
BB  
Simms : 9/16/2024 8:18 pm : link
A lot of talk, but who knows if he wants to coach us at this juncture of this career. OR if Mara will listen to someone telling him how it should be done etc.
If you told me Flores would fix the D  
djm : 9/16/2024 8:28 pm : link
I’d run over belichick to hire Flores.

Also I don’t think this is a full tear down rebuild. Not in the least. Nyg are one smart offseason away from a good roster.
RE: RE: Flores would be the better choice  
JohnF : 9/16/2024 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16612636 Section331 said:
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I don’t see Flores getting or taking an interview here.


Maybe not, but it's not impossible. Flores knows he was Mara's original choice. If both Schoen and Daboll are shown the door, and Flores can pick his own GM, I think he'd bite.

Head Coach opportunities are rare, and I think he wants to get back to being a HC. And if he succeeds here, it would be the ultimate revenge.
RE: Flores  
upnyg : 9/17/2024 11:45 am : link
In comment 16612857 Hilary said:
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Tua had nothing good to say about Flores. Good defensive coach.
Not a nice man. Pass

Tua's comments are damming...especially for a new Rookie Qb coming in. If he gets back in the Head coaching world again, would be better with an established QB and OC.
Let's face it  
Bingo : 9/17/2024 1:25 pm : link
We hired the wrong Brian.
There is precious little evidence that Brian Flores  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2024 1:40 pm : link
Is a good head coach.
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