Please don't take this the wrong way. I know people like to read a little bit of a post and then comment on that small piece. Just read it all first.
I did not watch the game yesterday and have no desire to. My son had his first tackle game yesterday afternoon. I DVR-ed the game hoping to watch it but word got out about all the BS. Why would I waste my time?
With that said, I want to make this connection. We were winning by a lot and the HC came up to me and told me we have to let the other team score. They are 9 years old. I get it. However, I said there is no way in hell I am telling the kids that. He agreed and then we started playing DBs at LB. It still wasn't enough.
But then I started thinking about the Giants. I am in no way saying they are tanking. I think that would be dumb as Schoen and Daboll may be gone at the end of the year. We hear agents and front office people criticizing how Schoen came off in Hard Knocks. We had fans critical of how Daboll came off in the interviews. We have fans killing Schoen for the QBs on the roster. We have fans killing Schoen for not having a 2nd CB.
Then we get to the start of the season. We don't even have 53 healthy players on the roster. We look completely unprepared against Minnesota. Jones looked worse than ever with not pulling the trigger. Then we read about the bad roster management with Gano when he was on the injury report this week with a groin and was wincing during pre-game warm-ups. We are reading about our poor run defense and the lack of DL. I criticized Schoen saying we only have 5 DL on the roster.
Long story short, this list goes on and on. With that said, here is my question. If you were going to tank without truly coming out and saying it, don't these moves kind of say that? Again, I am not saying we are because that would be dumb for Schoen and Daboll. There is a good chance they get fired if this season continues in this direction. But, hell, they are doing their best impression of a team tanking. What other moves could they make to even make this worse? This is a really bad situation.
You could go for more 2 pt conversions based on the fact that Jones is poor in the Red zone.
You could kickoff into the end zone consistently to give the other team a better starting yard line.
Some ideas.
Did you read my post?
You could go for more 2 pt conversions based on the fact that Jones is poor in the Red zone.
You could kickoff into the end zone consistently to give the other team a better starting yard line.
Some ideas.
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if they could orchestrate tanking to this nefarious degree, couldn't they just win instead?
lol, seems like that would be easier.
if they could orchestrate tanking to this nefarious degree, couldn't they just win instead?
lol, seems like that would be easier.
Again, I have said it multiple times. I do not think they are tanking. I'm saying some of the decision that they are making are in line with tanking which is beyond comprehension knowing their jobs are on the line and they may never get another shot at their current titles. I'm not saying they are tanking, just very incompetent.
Correct. Inept is a good word.
To me it’s not taking, it’s coaching negligence. And I do like Daboll as a coach but Jesus some of the things I scratch my head.
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make them seem more competent if this is all a ruse to tank but not make it seem obvious, but I think you are giving them way too much credit.
if they could orchestrate tanking to this nefarious degree, couldn't they just win instead?
lol, seems like that would be easier.
Again, I have said it multiple times. I do not think they are tanking. I'm saying some of the decision that they are making are in line with tanking which is beyond comprehension knowing their jobs are on the line and they may never get another shot at their current titles. I'm not saying they are tanking, just very incompetent.
I know. I'm just saying it would be a better explanation if they were tanking. But so good at it they were able to do it in a way that was hard to say is intentional.
To me it’s not taking, it’s coaching negligence. And I do like Daboll as a coach but Jesus some of the things I scratch my head.
Again, and again, and again. I am not saying they are tanking. I am saying the ineptitude of this regime is so bad that not having a punt returner (forgot about that one, thanks) week 1 is a move that can be viewed by other teams as us tanking. It is more perception that I am talking about. Each individual move is bad enough but when you put them all together, it shows how over their heads they are with running an NFL team. It is an embarrassment.
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make them seem more competent if this is all a ruse to tank but not make it seem obvious, but I think you are giving them way too much credit.
if they could orchestrate tanking to this nefarious degree, couldn't they just win instead?
lol, seems like that would be easier.
Again, I have said it multiple times. I do not think they are tanking. I'm saying some of the decision that they are making are in line with tanking which is beyond comprehension knowing their jobs are on the line and they may never get another shot at their current titles. I'm not saying they are tanking, just very incompetent.
I know. I'm just saying it would be a better explanation if they were tanking. But so good at it they were able to do it in a way that was hard to say is intentional.
Agreed.
It's not just the losing, it's the personnel bungling that's amazing.
Nobody else does this.
It's not just the losing, it's the personnel bungling that's amazing.
Nobody else does this.
Yep. It is beyond comprehension.
Why? He's our new Sterling Shepard. Just joking. I like Slayton but I get it. Still not trading McKinney and Barkley last year or the year prior was bad.
He should have played starters in preseason. Ig he did and someone got hurt he'd get blamed for that.
People didn't like the way Schoen came off - wgaf?
Team is alot more talented than it was a few years ago - this team will develop as the season goes on - time will tell whether the change will be good or bad.
Unfortunately it's just tbe opposite here, where Mara values meaningless December wins and people are constantly on the hot seat based on meaningless short term outcomes.
2-- Feature your offense as much as you can without making it too obvious on the run in addition to run on 1st down a lot. In postgames you can say what Daboll said after game 1 about featuring ground-game offense (instead of using Nabers as much as you can).
3---Take out Dexter more.
4--- Knowing Jones doesn't read the field well in terms of quickness, run some offense more than you normally would/should that will cause Jones to have to make quck decisions.
5--- Limit the usage of Singletary for games/situations he might be more useful.
6--- Don't utilize Robinson as much in a manner that best would show off his skills.
I could see them down by 7, at midfield, with 10 seconds on the clock. They'd punt, the returner would muff it, the Giants would pick up the ball and score. On the extra point, the holder would bobble the snap, and the kicker would run it in for 2.
Game 1 had a bunch of head scratchers too.
- Hyatt to the bench after being WR2 all summer
- Simmons playing a lot this summer to not at all
- Mcfadden sitting for Muasau
Those are a few examples of middle to low roster moves that can affect things.
The best I’ve come up with is maybe it’s a poor strategic approach to accounting for the 17th game; treat the first couple weeks of the season like post-pre-season games, and leave an open roster spot for when someone gets hurt? Idk, I feel very “No he loves me, you don’t know him like I know him,” lately. But I guess it’s the old, if you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras. They’re likely just inept, not overthinking.
Thank you.
p.s.--After watching Sunday's game, how many think Jayden Daniels will last the season? The young man puts his body in harm's way far too often. He won't survive without becoming more of a pocket passer and that doesn't appear to be a strength of his.
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Game 1 had a bunch of head scratchers too.
- Hyatt to the bench after being WR2 all summer
- Simmons playing a lot this summer to not at all
- Mcfadden sitting for Muasau
Those are a few examples of middle to low roster moves that can affect things.
I think McFadden is playing injured but get your point otherwise.
Me too, having no kicker and no returner is basic, basic stuff. There's no way Daboll or Schoen didn't realize this was an issue.
Didn't someone post on BBI they heard rumors of soft tanking.?
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