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Carl Banks: 'Hats off to Daniel Jones!'

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/16/2024 8:19 pm
'I thought he played a really good game.'

I was curious what the thinking @ 1925 Giants Way on Jones' performance yesterday & knew I could count on these shills to parrot the company line so I listened to their podcast Beleve or whatever the hell the name of it is. This will probably be the one & only time I listen to it because these two are boring AF.

I thought Jones was fine yesterday. Functional. Adequate. OK. But 'he played really well'? He missed multiple throws deep. He zeroed in on Robinson one play where Nabers was wide open. He averaged less than 7 yards per pass. Meanwhile, Sam Darnold-who makes pennies compared to Danny Dimes-averaged 10 yards per pass.

I know a lot of you think I hate Jones personally. I don't. He seems like a good dude/teammate & hard worker. But WTF are we doing here where we have a Giants commentator praising him for his play yesterday? Is the bar THAT fucking low for this guy in year six?

Totally expecting 4XChamps to call me names, Haha.
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RE: Blow me, marge  
rnargi : 9/16/2024 10:04 pm : link
In comment 16613363 Greg from LI said:
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By all means, heap praise on Low Expectations Danny. It’s thinking like that that resulted in this franchise having his loser ass as an anchor around their necks for years.


Lick my taint, fuck face. The next time you post a salient point or show honesty in assessment will be your first, you arrogant, wrong, pug headed, fool.
Confidence is a big part of a player's game. Especially at QB  
Reese's Pieces : 9/16/2024 10:17 pm : link
Although Jones put on a nice face in off-season appearances, a player at his position has to believe in himself, and all the shots taken at him, even by players around the league, had to sting.

Only Phil Simms and his mother believed in him. This was a start at confidence-building. Much more needed.

But how cool would it be if DJ had twice as much time to throw this season?




RE: RE: 178 passing yards  
Scooter185 : 9/16/2024 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16613364 Essex said:
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is abysmal against the league's worst secondary. Washington may not hold another team to under 200 passing yards all season.

Then again, overvaluing Jones' performance against a historically bad Vikings defense in 2022 is what got Jones the $160M contract in the first place.



Dude we were averaging 6 yards a carry running the darn ball. His star receiver dropped a ball on him and his rb fumbled a ball. Thr giants were moving at will except for one series. Anyone who thinks it was on Jones’ is either blinded by hate or not very bright.


Has anyone actually blamed Jones? Many are just pushing back on that he had some spectacular performance. He wasn't completely unplayable like against MIN. Yay!
RE: 178 passing yards  
JoeSchoens11 : 9/16/2024 10:18 pm : link
In comment 16613353 jogo1 said:
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is abysmal against the league's worst secondary. Washington may not hold another team to under 200 passing yards all season.

Then again, overvaluing Jones' performance against a historically bad Vikings defense in 2022 is what got Jones the $160M contract in the first place.
I don’t think you realize how much of an outlier a 6 possession game is. A normal game is ~11 possessions. You really, really, really need to take that into account when looking at total yards or points.
I’ve been a helluva lot more right about worthless Daniel Jones  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2024 10:21 pm : link
Than you ever have been.

Enjoy watching your golden boy suck ass the rest of the season, when he won’t be facing the worst pass defense in football.
RE: I’ve been a helluva lot more right about worthless Daniel Jones  
rnargi : 9/16/2024 10:27 pm : link
In comment 16613418 Greg from LI said:
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Than you ever have been.

Enjoy watching your golden boy suck ass the rest of the season, when he won’t be facing the worst pass defense in football.


You see? How the FUCK do you know what I think or how I feel about DJ? You don't, you smug, ignorant fuck.
Yes, you’re right, you’re so inscrutable  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2024 10:30 pm : link
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christian : 9/16/2024 10:32 pm : link
A nice game against a bad team isn't cause to get all crazy and say bad words.

But it's always fun to see the historical crazies be, crazies.
6.3 YPA  
Go Terps : 9/16/2024 10:36 pm : link
For Jones it's a good game. For good quarterbacks it isn't.

Raise the standards already.
RE: 6.3 YPA  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:37 pm : link
In comment 16613431 Go Terps said:
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For Jones it's a good game. For good quarterbacks it isn't.

Raise the standards already.


Fucking bore at this point. Get a hobby. You need 1.
RE: RE: He had 6 drives  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 10:38 pm : link
In comment 16613334 stoneman said:
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3 were TDs
2 were ended by his teammates messing up
1 was 3 and out

He played more than well enough to win and made some big time plays. It’s sad we have gotten to the point where we can’t acknowledge a good game by him.

And let’s not forget he did this with no defense and no kicker.



actually, this is a great game for a QB. But let's not spoil the BBI narrative that you can't win with this guy.


They didn’t win.
Jones may have played well but  
dabru : 9/16/2024 10:39 pm : link
he wasn’t the guy who elevated his team to a win despite the screw-ups of others. He didn’t put the team on his back and bail them all out by willing a win. Players need their QB to be that guy sometimes.
 
christian : 9/16/2024 10:39 pm : link
Lol. Touche.
RE: RE: 6.3 YPA  
Go Terps : 9/16/2024 10:41 pm : link
In comment 16613432 JT039 said:
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For Jones it's a good game. For good quarterbacks it isn't.

Raise the standards already.



Fucking bore at this point. Get a hobby. You need 1.


I'm glad to be yours.
Baker only had 8 possessions  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 10:43 pm : link
In Week 1.
RE: Baker only had 8 possessions  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:46 pm : link
In comment 16613440 ajr2456 said:
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In Week 1.


Hey with the defense only giving up 10.5 points per half - jones should have won, right?
RE: RE: RE: 6.3 YPA  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:46 pm : link
In comment 16613438 Go Terps said:
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For Jones it's a good game. For good quarterbacks it isn't.

Raise the standards already.



Fucking bore at this point. Get a hobby. You need 1.



I'm glad to be yours.


Your obsession for Jones is sad. He runs your life.
RE: Jones may have played well but  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/16/2024 10:46 pm : link
In comment 16613435 dabru said:
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he wasn’t the guy who elevated his team to a win despite the screw-ups of others. He didn’t put the team on his back and bail them all out by willing a win. Players need their QB to be that guy sometimes.


Lol out best WR dropped a ball right in his hands that would have iced the game. Jones put it there. Should he have walked over and handed it to him?
RE: 6.3 YPA  
cosmicj : 9/16/2024 10:47 pm : link
In comment 16613431 Go Terps said:
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For Jones it's a good game. For good quarterbacks it isn't.

Raise the standards already.


That stat is not affected by the low number of drives. It’s an ok YPA for DJ, but a bit below avg for him through 2022.

I’ll say it: I’m not sure Jones can still play at an NFL level.
Jones was ok  
JonC : 9/16/2024 10:48 pm : link
He left some throws on the field, which could've sustained drives. With a kicker, the Giants probably put 27 on the board, albeit against a bad defense.

Low standards here for QB.
RE: Jones may have played well but  
bw in dc : 9/16/2024 10:48 pm : link
In comment 16613435 dabru said:
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he wasn’t the guy who elevated his team to a win despite the screw-ups of others. He didn’t put the team on his back and bail them all out by willing a win. Players need their QB to be that guy sometimes.


Jones definitely doesn't have that skill/gene.

He's the most expensive game manager in NFL history.

Let's be real - He didn't stink and he wasn't great  
Matt M. : 9/16/2024 10:49 pm : link
The 2 TDs were nice. The 178 yards is pedestrian. He looked much better than last week, but he still missed on his deep shots with a lot of time and he locked in to the primary read on more than one occasion, leaving a wide open receiver ignored. There were multiple examples, but the one that stood out to me was throwing into triple coverage for Slayton in the middle of the field (i.e. right in front of him) while Nabers ran unchecked on a crossing route underneath, also running right in front of him from right to left. Had he hit Nabers, there was a lot of room in front of him for YAC.

So, he improved from a terrible week 1 to look good in week 2. But, good isn't enough to instill confidence at this point. At the same time, he played well enough to have won the game if one of 3 things happened. 1) We had a PK; 2) Nabers catches the 4th down pass, but we would have kicked the FG there; 3) Singletary didn't fumble deep in Washington territory.

So good, but not great or good enough on that day. It's enough to buy him a week, but not enough to confidently say anything glowing about him.
RE: RE: Baker only had 8 possessions  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 10:49 pm : link
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In Week 1.



Hey with the defense only giving up 10.5 points per half - jones should have won, right?


Still thinking about me, huh?
JoeSchoen  
cosmicj : 9/16/2024 10:50 pm : link
Your post about points per drive was incredibly interesting.
RE: RE: Jones may have played well but  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16613456 Thunderstruck27 said:
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he wasn’t the guy who elevated his team to a win despite the screw-ups of others. He didn’t put the team on his back and bail them all out by willing a win. Players need their QB to be that guy sometimes.



Lol out best WR dropped a ball right in his hands that would have iced the game. Jones put it there. Should he have walked over and handed it to him?


lol. The agendas are flowing now. Same shit from the same posters. Know nothings.
RE: RE: RE: Baker only had 8 possessions  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:51 pm : link
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In Week 1.



Hey with the defense only giving up 10.5 points per half - jones should have won, right?



Still thinking about me, huh?


Just using your logic. Your words, not mine.

Jones still on your mind I see.
RE: RE: RE: RE: 6.3 YPA  
Go Terps : 9/16/2024 10:51 pm : link
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For Jones it's a good game. For good quarterbacks it isn't.

Raise the standards already.



Fucking bore at this point. Get a hobby. You need 1.



I'm glad to be yours.



Your obsession for Jones is sad. He runs your life.


I'm not obsessed. I was just earlier in saying what everyone is now saying, you included. Don't worry - you can parrot me all you want.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Baker only had 8 possessions  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 10:53 pm : link
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In Week 1.



Hey with the defense only giving up 10.5 points per half - jones should have won, right?



Still thinking about me, huh?



Just using your logic. Your words, not mine.

Jones still on your mind I see.


It’s a Daniel Jones thread, Dep. On a Giants message board.

I see you’re still thinking about a post from last week. Have you tried getting some hobbies?
Yeah you aren’t obsessed with Jones  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:53 pm : link
And SFGF doesn’t like to drink either.
You seem obsessed with me  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 10:55 pm : link
It’s ok Dep.

Sorry pointing out Baker has 8 possessions vs Jones’ 7 ruffled your feathers and ruined your Monday.
I mentioned Jones in my post  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:55 pm : link
Did I not?

Sorry your posting backfired. I’ll try not to expose you next time. But don’t worry I’m sure you will quote someone from saying something about Jones in the past soon though.

Pot meet kettle.
You’re the one mad  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:56 pm : link
About something you said in the past.

Not me. Our defense was fine yesterday. Only gave up 21 again. 😀
You’re the one who is mad  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 10:58 pm : link
I just think it’s weird to be obsessing about it still while claiming other people are obsessed with things.

Ever think of picking up some hobbies?
I didn’t even mention Jones.  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 10:59 pm : link
I mentioned Baker
RE: You’re the one who is mad  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 10:59 pm : link
In comment 16613487 ajr2456 said:
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I just think it’s weird to be obsessing about it still while claiming other people are obsessed with things.

Ever think of picking up some hobbies?


Yeah. Have a bunch. I’m gonna pick up one about saying the same thing about jones 500x a day. Sound good?
Weird that you seem to know how much I post  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 11:00 pm : link
I didn’t even mention Jones and have made like 3 posts today.

Obsessed much, Dep?
RE: Weird that you seem to know how much I post  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 11:01 pm : link
In comment 16613490 ajr2456 said:
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I didn’t even mention Jones and have made like 3 posts today.

Obsessed much, Dep?


Let’s play 18. We probably would have a really good time.
RE: RE: Weird that you seem to know how much I post  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 11:02 pm : link
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I didn’t even mention Jones and have made like 3 posts today.

Obsessed much, Dep?



Let’s play 18. We probably would have a really good time.


My treat too.
RE: RE: Weird that you seem to know how much I post  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16613493 JT039 said:
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I didn’t even mention Jones and have made like 3 posts today.

Obsessed much, Dep?



Let’s play 18. We probably would have a really good time.


No thanks
I'm fucking sick of the mediocrity.  
Anakim : 9/16/2024 11:02 pm : link
Daniel Jones is fucking ass
Lol  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 11:04 pm : link
You take this board too seriously. You can’t even take a little ribbing.

Sorry I won’t tease you anymore. I thought you were somewhat of a man. Guess I was wrong.
Doesnt seem like DJ has the touch for the long ball  
xman : 9/16/2024 11:06 pm : link
I saw two long throws that were way off the mark
RE: Lol  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 11:09 pm : link
In comment 16613508 JT039 said:
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You take this board too seriously. You can’t even take a little ribbing.

Sorry I won’t tease you anymore. I thought you were somewhat of a man. Guess I was wrong.


Are you drunk? What are you even babbling on about
I apologized  
JT039 : 9/16/2024 11:09 pm : link
Nothing more, nothing less.
Ok Dep  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2024 11:17 pm : link
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RE: He had 6 drives  
BlueHurricane : 9/16/2024 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16613214 JT039 said:
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3 were TDs
2 were ended by his teammates messing up
1 was 3 and out

He played more than well enough to win and made some big time plays. It’s sad we have gotten to the point where we can’t acknowledge a good game by him.

And let’s not forget he did this with no defense and no kicker.


Good post but this type of talk won't fly here. The entire group wants the guy to fail miserably. Sad state of the fan base.

The reality is that everything about this organization sucks. Hammering Jones week in and week out is tired. He is one part of a really humongous issue. This franchise is rotten at every level. This isn't the week to shit on Jones. Shit on the way the roster is constructed this week. Shit on the fact they invent new ways to lose games every year. Take a week off from shitting on the QB. Singletary holds on to the ball and Nabers catches the 4th down east catch and they most likely win the game.


RE: The entire Org  
4xchamps : 9/16/2024 11:27 pm : link
In comment 16613247 Devour the Day said:
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From the owner, to GM and HC, the team and even the shill announcers this team is becoming an absolute embarrassment.
Remember the Coughlin phrase…..Giants Pride; it is so far from it.


And you forgot a-hole fans like yourself. Add that to you list...
RE: RE: 6.3 YPA  
Go Terps : 9/16/2024 11:39 pm : link
In comment 16613460 cosmicj said:
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For Jones it's a good game. For good quarterbacks it isn't.

Raise the standards already.



That stat is not affected by the low number of drives. It’s an ok YPA for DJ, but a bit below avg for him through 2022.

I’ll say it: I’m not sure Jones can still play at an NFL level.


There are 90-ish QBs on NFL teams. If you ranked them all Jones probably falls into the 40-50 range. That's what the idiots running the Giants decided to pay.
RE: Jones was ok  
Joey in VA : 9/16/2024 11:57 pm : link
In comment 16613462 JonC said:
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He left some throws on the field, which could've sustained drives. With a kicker, the Giants probably put 27 on the board, albeit against a bad defense.

Low standards here for QB.
This. He left a few out there, played pocket aware and made some good stuff happen. Tuck it away and look for more improvements next week. It's a long season, declaring it over already is just being a panicky 3rd grader who hates math. It's one week, one game. Judge the result and move on with hope. It's not a bad way to live honestly. I've been jobless for 6 weeks and it sucks but I wake up each day hopeful and every Sunday I'm hopeful we improve. You can't change anything by constantly whining and demeaning everything because you have ZERO power to change anything. You can't kill yourself over what you can't control and quite frankly it's unhealthy to do do. I almost died learning that lesson in 2015. Have your say, I'll always defend that right, but grinding yourself to a nub for millionaires who play for a spoiled billionaire family? Is it worth the aggravation and vitriole towards anyone who disagrees? It's not. I've been fighting that battle my entire adult life
The offense only had the ball for 22 minutes  
Rudy5757 : 9/17/2024 12:22 am : link
I mean it would have been 21 point and probably at least 27 points with the mistakes. 22 minutes is ridiculous.

Minnesota beat the 49ers so maybe they are not that bad of a team.

Daniel Jones did play well. He didn’t play great but he played well and should have won the game. He made the plays to win the game and his teammates lost it, the coaches lost it and the D was terrible forcing no punts and no turnovers.

Hating on Jones in every thread is old. Find something else to talk about. Winey bitches about Jones every thread every day. No one can have a thought without Jones being brought up by the same people screwing every thread. It’s the same posters over and over ruining the site.

SFGFNCGiantsFan you are one of the main thread killers, you can’t control yourself on every thread bringing up how much you hate Jones. How about you go a week without mentioning him. I’d bet you can’t. Even if the Giants won this game by 30 you’d still rant about your hate for Jones.
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