'I thought he played a really good game.'
I was curious what the thinking @ 1925 Giants Way on Jones' performance yesterday & knew I could count on these shills to parrot the company line so I listened to their podcast Beleve or whatever the hell the name of it is. This will probably be the one & only time I listen to it because these two are boring AF.
I thought Jones was fine yesterday. Functional. Adequate. OK. But 'he played really well'? He missed multiple throws deep. He zeroed in on Robinson one play where Nabers was wide open. He averaged less than 7 yards per pass. Meanwhile, Sam Darnold-who makes pennies compared to Danny Dimes-averaged 10 yards per pass.
I know a lot of you think I hate Jones personally. I don't. He seems like a good dude/teammate & hard worker. But WTF are we doing here where we have a Giants commentator praising him for his play yesterday? Is the bar THAT fucking low for this guy in year six?
Totally expecting 4XChamps to call me names, Haha.
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Ok please explain how he was suppose to do that?
He's had 6 years to figure that out how to overcome his teammates mistakes. Why hasn't he? Why is is always his teammates on the hook to bail out his mistakes?
His teammate fumbled and another dropped a perfect pass - what the hell is he suppose to figure out? Holy shit, this is embarrassing for you.
His teammate fumbled and another dropped a perfect pass - what the hell is he suppose to figure out? Holy shit, this is embarrassing for you.
So you are conceding that Jones is not a good enough QB to overcome teammates mistakes, nor put them in a position that requiring a bailout be necessary at all.
I aree.
If you're hanging your hat on this game, that's a little weak.
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His teammate fumbled and another dropped a perfect pass - what the hell is he suppose to figure out? Holy shit, this is embarrassing for you.
So you are conceding that Jones is not a good enough QB to overcome teammates mistakes, nor put them in a position that requiring a bailout be necessary at all.
I aree.
lol, your comment makes absolutely zero sense. What did you want him to do specifically? He led his team to a go ahead TD in the fourth quarter and was leading him to a potential go ahead score to end the game. Its the pure definition of overcoming his teammates mistakes Sunday.
Holy shit, we are one fucking clueless fan base.
You do understand we were in that position because our defense got ZERO stops and we had NO kicker. And yet he still moved us down the field at will?
HAHAHAHA...ooooh, you and marge are going to gang up on me? How intimidating!!
Did he make impressive throws? Connect on some bombs? Or did he dump the ball off to Nabers a bunch of times and Nabers gained a bunch of yards because he's supremely talented?
If you're hanging your hat on this game, that's a little weak.
All i said was he played well/good or whatever on Sunday. You're the one still assessing blame on him for thigns out of his control. Pretty sad if you ask me. Others are using 6 years of poor play for whatever reason.
People cant concetrate on what happened just on Sunday on why we lost. Their Jones hate obsession controls their lives.
Enjoy your meal on your own
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Putting your team in a chance to win with your play - which he most certainly did. But if you dont agree - ill have rnargi bitchslap you again.
HAHAHAHA...ooooh, you and marge are going to gang up on me? How intimidating!!
Did he make impressive throws? Connect on some bombs? Or did he dump the ball off to Nabers a bunch of times and Nabers gained a bunch of yards because he's supremely talented?
Poor baby, he made good throws to an open guy and that makes you sad. I am glad youre still posting and being a miserable fuck. Same schtick, different year.
Look at the throws other QBs make week in and week out. Stroud made some incredible throws Sunday night, for example. Jones doesn't do that because he sucks.
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The pass plays where it is one pass only -no read, they can be pointed out.
If you're hanging your hat on this game, that's a little weak.
All i said was he played well/good or whatever on Sunday. You're the one still assessing blame on him for thigns out of his control. Pretty sad if you ask me. Others are using 6 years of poor play for whatever reason.
People cant concetrate on what happened just on Sunday on why we lost. Their Jones hate obsession controls their lives.
No, I am pointing out that this is not a full NFL offense.
Playing well in a simplified offense is not good enough for our $40M man.
At that renumeration, he needs to be better.
This thread is getting stupid.
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His teammate fumbled and another dropped a perfect pass - what the hell is he suppose to figure out? Holy shit, this is embarrassing for you.
So you are conceding that Jones is not a good enough QB to overcome teammates mistakes, nor put them in a position that requiring a bailout be necessary at all.
I aree.
lol, your comment makes absolutely zero sense. What did you want him to do specifically? He led his team to a go ahead TD in the fourth quarter and was leading him to a potential go ahead score to end the game. Its the pure definition of overcoming his teammates mistakes Sunday.
Holy shit, we are one fucking clueless fan base.
You do understand we were in that position because our defense got ZERO stops and we had NO kicker. And yet he still moved us down the field at will?
Yeah, we are quickly becoming one of the shittiest fan bases around. Even the hate for Papa and Banks for being "Company Men" boggles my mind and makes me think we are at peak stupidity.
Enjoy your meal on your own
Time to sit this one out. You proved nothing other than that you have zero to littel football knowledge. God damn Jones should have told Nabers how to catch that 4th down pass!
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The pass plays where it is one pass only -no read, they can be pointed out.
If you're hanging your hat on this game, that's a little weak.
All i said was he played well/good or whatever on Sunday. You're the one still assessing blame on him for thigns out of his control. Pretty sad if you ask me. Others are using 6 years of poor play for whatever reason.
People cant concetrate on what happened just on Sunday on why we lost. Their Jones hate obsession controls their lives.
It's very useful being present for some things. You listed some of them Dep; your children's soccer games, a date night with your wife, a beautiful rainbow.
There is no point in appreciating a fine/solid performance by Daniel Jones against a bad defense. There's no point in denigrating it either. It was meaningless. Profoundly meaningless.
It was similar to his mediocrity in 2022 that people like you gushed over. Not bad, not great, but adequate. Pop those champagne corks.
This thread is getting stupid.
Exactly.
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because I said Jones wasn't the reason they lost and that's still not good enough for you dipshits to stop insisting everyone else suck his cock
Enjoy your meal on your own
Time to sit this one out. You proved nothing other than that you have zero to littel football knowledge. God damn Jones should have told Nabers how to catch that 4th down pass!
Slurp
100%
I'm sorry. Was your response just a version of "I know you are, but what am I?"
Are you 12?
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Daniel Jones lives inside your mind all day every day. The obsession is real. I was really hope the giants won to start the year so you could run and cry again. Fakest fan by far on this site.
No lies
But there isn't a fanclub *eyeroll*
If you want to enjoy the rare Jones performance that is fine or solid the way you a wonderful almond croissant on a crisp fall day, then have at it.
But it's perfectly fine to take a different view of the significance of Jones's performance and how to process it.
But ‘really good’ as Carl opined? No fucking way. And if Banks is saying this, I have no doubt others inside the organization think the same about Jones. Year six and we have pom pom wavers like Papa and Banks selling this shit to the fan base. It isn’t even about Jones anymore. He sucks…everyone knows that. It’s more about the clowns running this team who probably believe Jones was masterful vs. WFT.
Somewhere out there, Britt just frowned but doesn't know why
Of the* that should say
Sometimes its too easy. I always said Eric should start a counseling service for the people who are only here to bash the QB and troll the board. He would rake in tons of money.
They are all out in full force now. I would call it the meeting of the minds, but its more like the meeting of the mindless....
Daniel Jones lives inside your guys heads. hahahaha
The actually interesting question is, why was anyone ever a cheerleader for such an obviously subpar quarterback?
Sometimes its too easy. I always said Eric should start a counseling service for the people who are only here to bash the QB and troll the board. He would rake in tons of money.
They are all out in full force now. I would call it the meeting of the minds, but its more like the meeting of the mindless....
Daniel Jones lives inside your guys heads. hahahaha
I recall your defense of Eli in the final 2-3 years of his career when it was evident he was in serious serious decline. I found that defense understandable as a matter of sentiment since Eli won us two rings and is a legend and it's hard to be ruthless when it comes to someone like him.
What has Jones deserved to get even a sliver of the same defense? Or is the point not defending Jones but the psychological proclivities of people who think he's been one of the three major causes of the Giants' ineptitude over the past 5+ years?
learned from you. I told you last night it was my new hobby. Nobody post utter BS more continuously than you. I learned from the best.
You are a great teacher.
But there isn't a fanclub *eyeroll*
Is this really the argument though? I don't think I am arguing with people who want to criticize Jones for Sunday. There were some things I did not love, the first TD throw to Nabers was behind him, the missed two point conversion although Slayton should have had it, the throw could have been better. He really relied on Nabers a lot and nobody else got involved. So, yeah it wasn't perfect, but what are we even talking about. He did what he needed to do for his team to win. The rest of the team, looking primarily at the defense was the cause of the loss and some unforced errors by players who played great games (Singletary and Nabers).
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Saying Jones played a good game and the trolls who are obsessed about Jones come running.
Sometimes its too easy. I always said Eric should start a counseling service for the people who are only here to bash the QB and troll the board. He would rake in tons of money.
They are all out in full force now. I would call it the meeting of the minds, but its more like the meeting of the mindless....
Daniel Jones lives inside your guys heads. hahahaha
I recall your defense of Eli in the final 2-3 years of his career when it was evident he was in serious serious decline. I found that defense understandable as a matter of sentiment since Eli won us two rings and is a legend and it's hard to be ruthless when it comes to someone like him.
What has Jones deserved to get even a sliver of the same defense? Or is the point not defending Jones but the psychological proclivities of people who think he's been one of the three major causes of the Giants' ineptitude over the past 5+ years?
I said he played well in 1 game. And have said throughout last year and the draft process - I wanted a QB. But since i dont post it 500 times a day in multiple threads like a lot of these posters - you may not have seen it.
5 teams won this week giving 20+ points. So it appears that 20 points in fact is a defensive performance you can win with, if the offense isn’t inept.
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How do you find the time to post the same thing 500 times in this thread?
learned from you. I told you last night it was my new hobby. Nobody post utter BS more continuously than you. I learned from the best.
You are a great teacher.
lol, sure Dep.
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we would credit the defense for only giving up 21 points. We would be such smarter fans then.
5 teams won this week giving 20+ points. So it appears that 20 points in fact is a defensive performance you can win with, if the offense isn’t inept.
I agree - the defense was more than just "fine" last week. They really kept us in the game and gave us a chance to win the game.
lol
You're the best at it. Please take the compliment. No one post more BS and nonsense than you as frequesntly as you do. You're the inside man for this board. You are an inspiration for us all.
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lol
You're the best at it. Please take the compliment. No one post more BS and nonsense than you as frequesntly as you do. You're the inside man for this board. You are an inspiration for us all.
How long til you make a new username?
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But it wasn't a hats off performance = hating him and blaming him for the loss
But there isn't a fanclub *eyeroll*
Is this really the argument though? I don't think I am arguing with people who want to criticize Jones for Sunday. There were some things I did not love, the first TD throw to Nabers was behind him, the missed two point conversion although Slayton should have had it, the throw could have been better. He really relied on Nabers a lot and nobody else got involved. So, yeah it wasn't perfect, but what are we even talking about. He did what he needed to do for his team to win. The rest of the team, looking primarily at the defense was the cause of the loss and some unforced errors by players who played great games (Singletary and Nabers).
Jones did what he needed to yes. But was it a performance to be heralded? Apparently saying it's not has some posters (not you, Essex) triggered
Sy's review is now up and he thinks Jones played well too. Here is what he said about Jones:
After a week one to forget, he bounced back and put this team in position to win. That is the first job of a quarterback, and he got it done. When looking at the details of his game – the factors that impact wins and losses the most (turnovers, sacks, explosive plays, and penalties) Jones’ performance was taken to an even higher level. Not one turnover, he took just one sack for three yards, he passed for three explosive plays 20+ yard gains). The mis-fire metric that I discussed last week was down from a week ago by an incredible margin. I recorded just two poor throws (the missed deep balls were not mis-fires). He was one of 9 quarterbacks league wide to finish with a 100+ passer rating. He was one of 11 quarterbacks league wide to not throw any turnover worthy passes.
So, the numbers look great in contrast to where Jones started off week one. Beyond that, I was pleased with the decisiveness overall feel in the pocket.