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SAQUON BARKLEY COST THE EAGLES THE GAME!!!

JT039 : 9/16/2024 11:12 pm
Time to celebrate!!!
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RE: Nobody hates the guy.  
Mike from Ohio : 9/17/2024 8:18 am : link
In comment 16613756 mittenedman said:
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He’s an Eagle so he can suck an egg.


Hate is a term used on this site by people who don’t understand the word. Rooting against a guy in a game is not hate. If some actual tragedy befell Barkley tomorrow, there would be nothing but best wishes for him on this site. Nobody would be reveling in it.

Nobody on this site hates Saquon Barkley or Daniel Jones. If you think they do, you don’t know what the word means, or you are blinded by your own biases.
 
christian : 9/17/2024 8:20 am : link
I will leave out the name to protect the innocent, but there was a poster who was adamant Barkley dropped passes on purpose to avoid being hit. That was kind of weird.
RE: October 20th  
JT039 : 9/17/2024 8:22 am : link
In comment 16613669 SleepyOwl said:
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All of you that are saying F-Barkley please bring that same energy on that day. I love Barkley. Best player by far in a dismal time in this franchise’s history. Now that he’s gone this team is one injury away to a WR of being unwatchable. Who are we kidding.


If you think Barkley is a better football player than Andrew Thomas or Dexter Lawrence - then you didnt watch many Giants games.
RE: RE: RE: RE: You could say Nabers cost the Giants the game  
jeff57 : 9/17/2024 8:29 am : link
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With his drop. It was Nick Sirianni who cost the Eagles the game.



It was a tie game. How did Nabers not converting that 4th down play cost the Giants the game? You remember there was no such thing as field goal range on Sunday, right?



Yes, but there was still TDs. And taking time off the clock.



What does “there was still TDs” mean? There are always TDs available. Did Nabers drop the ball in the end zone? The one yard line? No. He stopped a drive that was by no means certain, or even likely, to end in a TD. It stopped a drive that could have ended in a TD.

I don’t know why some posters won’t walk back incorrect statements they make.


Not to belabor the point, but from Sy's write up:

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The drop on the final drive, however, was an absolute back-breaker. Giants likely win if he brings that in.
Ha ha ha ha  
chitt17 : 9/17/2024 8:35 am : link
How many times he chocked in crucial situations for the giants?

When he is eventually injured... We can really say.... There's the Barkley we remember.
My own personal favorite  
Lambuth_Special : 9/17/2024 8:43 am : link
Barkley crunchtime error goes back to 2018, in which the 1-3 Giants are playing the panthers and are down 24-30 with 2 minutes left. Eli hits a deep ball to the Panthers 15, then hits Barkley in the flat on 1st and 10, and he could've gone down at the 1, but instead does an increadible leap to score a TD, leaving the Panthers with over a minute on the clock to move down and hit the game-winning FG (hit by Graham Gano).

I remember this well because Fatman in Charlotte was screaming at everyone that clock management was stupid because it was important for the Giants to immediately hit the 30-point milestone they had failed to reach with MacAdoo.
Man some of you are so miserable you can't bring yourself to enjoy one  
Stu11 : 9/17/2024 8:45 am : link
second of football. Of course we'd all love to be able to enjoy something the Giants did, no shit sherlock. I mean can you just let us enjoy our one crumb of football enjoyment this weekend? I would generally have no beef with Saquon, but come on he slinks off to our arch rival, blasts us on the way out with that pathetic social media post with his daughter, then gets 3 td's week one and we have to hear it. Screw him and his end of game choking ass. And screw that douchebag insufferable asshole of a coach they have. Oh and also screw that absolute rock bottom of the genetic gene pool of a fan base they kept panning to in the stands.
I'll always like Saquon Barkley  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/17/2024 9:08 am : link
However he plays on a team coached by bigger douchebag than Daboll. Siriani will be on the hot seat all season, and that makes me laugh.
RE: My own personal favorite  
shyster : 9/17/2024 9:08 am : link
In comment 16613782 Lambuth_Special said:
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Barkley crunchtime error goes back to 2018, in which the 1-3 Giants are playing the panthers and are down 24-30 with 2 minutes left. Eli hits a deep ball to the Panthers 15, then hits Barkley in the flat on 1st and 10, and he could've gone down at the 1, but instead does an increadible leap to score a TD, leaving the Panthers with over a minute on the clock to move down and hit the game-winning FG (hit by Graham Gano).

I remember this well because Fatman in Charlotte was screaming at everyone that clock management was stupid because it was important for the Giants to immediately hit the 30-point milestone they had failed to reach with MacAdoo.


You don't go down at the one when you need a TD to take the lead. You do it when you only need to kill the clock or, maybe, if you only need the chip shot FG to win.

Not when you need the TD, because you can't presume it. You could have a false start. You could get stuffed.

Also, in the situation you mention, the Panthers could have called timeout and then what? If you sneak it in from the one the next play, you've only used up a few seconds, while taking a big risk of not scoring at all.

That's the last play to criticize Barkley about.
glad he dropped the pass  
djm : 9/17/2024 9:17 am : link
but Barkley still looks terrific. It was a bad job from NYG front office. Going back to how they handled the position when they drafted him through this past off-season when they finally addressed the OL with good FA signings only to let the guy walk.

I like Singletary so at least there's that. If he can rumble for 1000+ on good YPC we can forgive and forget.

PS fuck Philly.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: You could say Nabers cost the Giants the game  
Mike from Ohio : 9/17/2024 9:19 am : link
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With his drop. It was Nick Sirianni who cost the Eagles the game.



It was a tie game. How did Nabers not converting that 4th down play cost the Giants the game? You remember there was no such thing as field goal range on Sunday, right?



Yes, but there was still TDs. And taking time off the clock.



What does “there was still TDs” mean? There are always TDs available. Did Nabers drop the ball in the end zone? The one yard line? No. He stopped a drive that was by no means certain, or even likely, to end in a TD. It stopped a drive that could have ended in a TD.

I don’t know why some posters won’t walk back incorrect statements they make.



Not to belabor the point, but from Sy's write up:



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The drop on the final drive, however, was an absolute back-breaker. Giants likely win if he brings that in.



Sy said likely. You said it cost us the game. Own up to it man. You are belaboring a point you are wrong about. Time to move on.
RE: You could say Nabers cost the Giants the game  
5BowlsSoon : 9/17/2024 9:24 am : link
In comment 16613719 jeff57 said:
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With his drop. It was Nick Sirianni who cost the Eagles the game.


Dumb comment Jeff….younhave to agree that if SB catches the ball, game over….HC didn’t drop it
People  
SoZKillA : 9/17/2024 9:34 am : link
are really bitching that some don't like Barkley...

lol weridos on this site.

He's an Eagle, he's an enemy, fuck him, tried to play the victim 2 times here when he was offered $ and lied. He's a snake.
RE: I'll always like Saquon Barkley  
mfsd : 9/17/2024 9:38 am : link
In comment 16613809 Fishmanjim57 said:
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However he plays on a team coached by bigger douchebag than Daboll. Siriani will be on the hot seat all season, and that makes me laugh.


Bingo
RE: RE: You could say Nabers cost the Giants the game  
jeff57 : 9/17/2024 9:41 am : link
In comment 16613834 5BowlsSoon said:
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With his drop. It was Nick Sirianni who cost the Eagles the game.



Dumb comment Jeff….younhave to agree that if SB catches the ball, game over….HC didn’t drop it


HC decided not to go for an easy FG in the first quarter and go for it on 4th and 4. Came back to bite them in the ass.
what Barkley has done for so far...  
BillKo : 9/17/2024 9:41 am : link
...about 30 RBs in the league can do for a fraction of the cost.

Eagles RB position hasn't been a problem in the past due to the OL - and they did it by committee.

If Barkely stays healthy sure he'll be a top stat RB - but that's just because they've dumped by committee. Gainewell is hardly playing and I didn't see a third back play at all.

Telling stat: Barkely's longest run was 11 yards. He really doesn't make people miss in the open field and has sort of become a physical type back - which lends itself to injury.
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ChrisRick : 9/17/2024 9:41 am : link
Hate is personal and so is the decision to share that one is actually hateful about someone or something.

Just because people don't act in a way that I think is hateful does not mean they do not hate.

I think there is plenty of real hate in sports with fans and players, the hate that only a few actually admit. Where there is passion, the recipe for hate exists.
I love the schaddenfreude, but…  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/17/2024 9:41 am : link
… the two guys that the Giants got to replace Barkley (Singletary as primary RB, Nabors as primary playmaker) BOTH did that in the same game.
Posted on the wrong thread  
UConn4523 : 9/17/2024 9:47 am : link
Both seem the same
UConn4523 : 9:42 am : link : reply
Barkley’s drop still resulted in a FG and 6 point lead. The Defense got carved up in 60 seconds. Then the Eagles got the ball back and could have gotten in FG range had Hurts not thrown an awful pass.
RE: what Barkley has done for so far...  
Del Shofner : 9/17/2024 9:49 am : link
In comment 16613857 BillKo said:
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...about 30 RBs in the league can do for a fraction of the cost.

Eagles RB position hasn't been a problem in the past due to the OL - and they did it by committee.

If Barkely stays healthy sure he'll be a top stat RB - but that's just because they've dumped by committee. Gainewell is hardly playing and I didn't see a third back play at all.

Telling stat: Barkely's longest run was 11 yards. He really doesn't make people miss in the open field and has sort of become a physical type back - which lends itself to injury.


Agree. He was 22-95, avg 4.3, long 11. That's not bad but behind that O line it's not special either. Bijan Robinson was clearly the superior RB in the game.
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/17/2024 9:50 am : link
We've certainly seen that in the big moments.

Don't blame fans for taking glee in it - he was all over social media - editing videos of him in Eagles gear without really thanking NY Giants fans, right?
im a barkley fan who has said for 2 years they messed up his contract  
Eric on Li : 9/17/2024 9:51 am : link
i actually even enjoy seeing him do well even no longer a giant. but i enjoy watching the eagles and siriani in particular shit themselves on national tv as bad as we do.

a barkley drop on an awful siriani playcall capped off with a hurts pick was a golden trifecta.
RE: RE: RE: You could say Nabers cost the Giants the game  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/17/2024 9:56 am : link
In comment 16613856 jeff57 said:
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With his drop. It was Nick Sirianni who cost the Eagles the game.



Dumb comment Jeff….younhave to agree that if SB catches the ball, game over….HC didn’t drop it



HC decided not to go for an easy FG in the first quarter and go for it on 4th and 4. Came back to bite them in the ass.


Even the radio announcers were saying at the time, “Just take the points, man!“

Going for it on 4th at that point is something a David does against a Goliath, like they think they won’t get another chance. Not a move by a SB contender and game favorite at home.
RE: Philly sports radio  
St. Jimmy : 9/17/2024 10:01 am : link
In comment 16613743 Paulie Walnuts said:
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Has to be fun this morning
I love hearing about the defense and how most of those Georgia guys they drafted stink. Bryce Huff is also fun to hear about.
Those Georgia guys might have been the most overrated  
Essex : 9/17/2024 10:12 am : link
players ever. People were acting like they were geniuses. Davis and Dean might be busts. Carter and Smith have some attributes but neither look like they are ready to play a full game. Their run defense was pathetic, especially Huff on the edge. You can't have him out there on first or second downs as teams will just exploit him on the run.
RE: RE: what Barkley has done for so far...  
BillKo : 9/17/2024 10:15 am : link
In comment 16613878 Del Shofner said:
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...about 30 RBs in the league can do for a fraction of the cost.

Eagles RB position hasn't been a problem in the past due to the OL - and they did it by committee.

If Barkely stays healthy sure he'll be a top stat RB - but that's just because they've dumped by committee. Gainewell is hardly playing and I didn't see a third back play at all.

Telling stat: Barkely's longest run was 11 yards. He really doesn't make people miss in the open field and has sort of become a physical type back - which lends itself to injury.



Agree. He was 22-95, avg 4.3, long 11. That's not bad but behind that O line it's not special either. Bijan Robinson was clearly the superior RB in the game.


No doubt. You saw more elusiveness and breakaway ability from Bijan.
RE: RE: RE: RE: You could say Nabers cost the Giants the game  
BillKo : 9/17/2024 10:18 am : link
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With his drop. It was Nick Sirianni who cost the Eagles the game.



Dumb comment Jeff….younhave to agree that if SB catches the ball, game over….HC didn’t drop it



HC decided not to go for an easy FG in the first quarter and go for it on 4th and 4. Came back to bite them in the ass.



Even the radio announcers were saying at the time, “Just take the points, man!“

Going for it on 4th at that point is something a David does against a Goliath, like they think they won’t get another chance. Not a move by a SB contender and game favorite at home.


Not really a fan of taking a play - even points - in the very beginning of the game and applying it to the final score.

Ebb and flow - change of events - can all come into play resulting in different outcomes.

But I do agree - take the points there. When did fourth and three become so brazen?
RE: Posted on the wrong thread  
BillKo : 9/17/2024 10:20 am : link
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Both seem the same
UConn4523 : 9:42 am : link : reply
Barkley’s drop still resulted in a FG and 6 point lead. The Defense got carved up in 60 seconds. Then the Eagles got the ball back and could have gotten in FG range had Hurts not thrown an awful pass.


I would have but some coin on their kicker nailing a 60 yarder to be honest - which is becoming a problem for me and the NFL.

Getting the ball back with 30 seconds and down by 3 or less is no longer a "long shot".

It's now a 50-50 proposition.

I wonder if HC's will consider allowing a return, eatting some time, and trying to pin the opposition within the 20.

Trust your special teams to make a play!!!!!
RE: glad he dropped the pass  
Stu11 : 9/17/2024 10:33 am : link
In comment 16613826 djm said:
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but Barkley still looks terrific. It was a bad job from NYG front office. Going back to how they handled the position when they drafted him through this past off-season when they finally addressed the OL with good FA signings only to let the guy walk.

I like Singletary so at least there's that. If he can rumble for 1000+ on good YPC we can forgive and forget.

PS fuck Philly.

Meh I watched most of the game and last week too. He looks exactly the same as when he was on the Giants. Some nice runs, a lot of no gain/negative runs when the blocking isn't there and a huge drop in crunch time.
RE: I wouldn't gloat over the Barkley drop  
Route 9 : 9/17/2024 11:44 am : link
In comment 16613619 BlackLight said:
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but he had to go run his mouth about the Giants "let him walk away." As if, one, he didn't turn down a better contractfrom Schoen in 2022 than what he got from Philly this offseason, and two, that he didn't want out the door just as badly.


Fuck your rules. With literally nothing else to get excited about the Giants, Eagle fans being mad is always a great consolation prize and the fact it has to do with an ex-Giant? I'm going to gloat and gloat again because, F the Eagles.
RE: RE: glad he dropped the pass  
Route 9 : 9/17/2024 11:45 am : link
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but Barkley still looks terrific. It was a bad job from NYG front office. Going back to how they handled the position when they drafted him through this past off-season when they finally addressed the OL with good FA signings only to let the guy walk.

I like Singletary so at least there's that. If he can rumble for 1000+ on good YPC we can forgive and forget.

PS fuck Philly.


Meh I watched most of the game and last week too. He looks exactly the same as when he was on the Giants. Some nice runs, a lot of no gain/negative runs when the blocking isn't there and a huge drop in crunch time.


Don't listen. Never not annoying.


Yep. I saw what you saw, Barkley just running right into tackles and not taking holes that are there.
RE: RE: glad he dropped the pass  
mittenedman : 9/17/2024 11:55 am : link
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but Barkley still looks terrific. It was a bad job from NYG front office. Going back to how they handled the position when they drafted him through this past off-season when they finally addressed the OL with good FA signings only to let the guy walk.

I like Singletary so at least there's that. If he can rumble for 1000+ on good YPC we can forgive and forget.

PS fuck Philly.


Meh I watched most of the game and last week too. He looks exactly the same as when he was on the Giants. Some nice runs, a lot of no gain/negative runs when the blocking isn't there and a huge drop in crunch time.


100% Stu. It amazes me how many fans can't take context into consideration. He's Saquon Barkley. We know everything about the guy. Eric from BBI would average 6 ypc behind that OL with Brown & Smith at WR, and I still think it's hilarious the Eagles felt the need to sign him to stick it to the Giants. Sure - build your team around the coach-killer Barkley, who's been unexplainably poor in pressure situations over the last 5 years and it showed up again. His inability to convert those memorable plays are part of the reason Schoen didn't want to pony up for him.
RE: The Barkley hate is strange  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2024 12:08 pm : link
In comment 16613654 eric2425ny said:
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What did our organization do for him? Provided a shit QB and offensive line and horrible coaches. Then instead of paying him they franchised him and paid Jones instead.

I wish the guy no ill will.


This
maybe I didn't watch closely enough.....  
BillKo : 9/17/2024 12:14 pm : link
....didnt the GM tell Barkley to come back with the best offer before signing, and he never did?

Then proclaims last night - via Joe Buck - that the Giants didn't offer him anything?
The Pleasure  
Bernie : 9/17/2024 12:15 pm : link
Stems from the agony all those shithead Eagle fans endured last night and this morning + dickhead Siriani looking like just that + Saquon coming up small in a big spot. I do not wish any sort of injury for him, but I do want him to fail for walking out on NYG and being a douche during contract negotiations in ‘23.
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Route 9 : 9/17/2024 12:25 pm : link
Ha. Only BBI where some don't understand basic thinking and have the sense of humor of a crotchety old lunch lady.

No one is hating on Barkley, we're just enjoying one of the few positive football moments that has gone our way.

Our #2 overall pick hopped from our team to our biggest rival ever, in his second game he dropped the ball in front of their moron fans and people on here don't understand why this is funny or we're getting excited lol

Oh yeah that's right, when Eric Lindros went to the Rangers, they didn't have any snide comments over in that city.
I feel bad for Barkley the person, for the player not so much  
Dinger : 9/17/2024 12:29 pm : link
All we've heard is how great he's going to be and Barkley himself saying he's felt free. He scored 3 TDs against the Packers and he was going to be the MVP after week 1. He was gashing the Falcons early then 2nd quarter hit and Barkley tac kled in the backfield did too. Not sure what it is; does he accelerate too slowly or is he looking to get that TD every play still? I said it last night that as soon as they NEED SB to stay in and protect the QB the eagles are dead. I forgot about his numerous end of game 'foibles'. Glad we moved on and hoping singletary can be an above average RB behind a MUCH IMPROVED line.
RE: Nobody hates the guy.  
Blue21 : 9/17/2024 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16613756 mittenedman said:
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He’s an Eagle so he can suck an egg.
Exactly. Why is this so hard to understand?
RE: Seen Barkley drop that swing pass 100x.  
monstercoo : 9/17/2024 1:16 pm : link
I've always said that Barkley's pass catching skills leave a lot of be desired. He's average at best.

He had one of his best catches for a td last week and then one of his worst drops this week.
I'm not going to get happy...  
Bingo : 9/17/2024 1:20 pm : link
...about SB's failure. He wanted to be here, but Schoen played big man and let him walk.
I'm kind of glad for SB. He suffered behind the shittiest OL possible of all time.

He was a class player while here and I'll always show respect towards him. Although, I do wish he was with Houston instead of philly.
Listen to this Barkley screws me again.  
Carl in CT : 9/17/2024 1:24 pm : link
In a $800 12 team league, drafting 11, and Barkley is one of my backs. PPR and I’m tied last night and lose the tie breaker because of bench points (I have injuries). All he had to do was catch that little one. I don’t give a shit if he scores. So I go down the tubes.
RE: RE: We're 0-2  
Mayo2JZ : 9/17/2024 1:32 pm : link
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For the 10th time in 12 years.
Happy the eagles lost but the fact we want to celebrate things like this shows were a loser team.



Fuck Barkley.


First off, Barkley did not cost them the game and second, you're an idiot. He's in a better place and you don't like it. Yes we get it. Just another homer Giants fan
Congrats  
TyreeHelmet : 9/17/2024 2:00 pm : link
Hang it up next to the banner for Daniel Jones Wild card win.
RE: Congrats  
Route 9 : 9/17/2024 2:22 pm : link
In comment 16614234 TyreeHelmet said:
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Hang it up next to the banner for Daniel Jones Wild card win.


Didn't a baseball team do that? Put up a banner because they won a wild card game?

Cleveland Indians? Tampa Bay Rays?
You morons, I swear ...  
Route 9 : 9/17/2024 2:30 pm : link
I wouldn't care if the Giants were 8-0 and the Eagles lost because of a crucial Barkley drop to the Falcons or whoever else.

STFU with your "look at yourself in the mirror first" outlook. Eagles suck, as do their fans. It's still funny the way it went down, no matter what.
Bummer.  
Sky King : 9/17/2024 3:31 pm : link
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The sports radio in Philly is hilarious today  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/17/2024 4:29 pm : link
They are whining about everything! I think they hate Siriani as much as Giants fans do, and they're whining about their lousy defence. They are also whining about Barkley's dropped pass.
Screw Philly!
Seriously think to final couple drives  
JT039 : 9/17/2024 5:22 pm : link
- Gardner Johnson and Siranni dancing around the field like Apollo and Rocky in Rocky III.

- Barkley dropping the game ending catch.

- defense letting cousins go down in 4 plays to score.

- Hurts throwing a horrific ball with plenty of time left to win the game as its intercepted to end the game.

- Having Joe Buck soak into his tears that team he swallowed all night blew the game.


That was one of the most enjoyable non-Giants games I ever watched. And I got a feeling they have a few more of them up their sleeve this year.
RE: Those Georgia guys might have been the most overrated  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/17/2024 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16613942 Essex said:
[quote] players ever. People were acting like they were geniuses. Davis and Dean might be busts. Carter and Smith have some attributes but neither look like they are ready to play a full game. Their run defense was pathetic, especially Huff on the edge. You can't have him out there on first or second downs as teams will just exploit him on the run. [/quote

Carter fell due to his off field stuff but he certainly isn't the "generational" talent crap that was spouted but some draft gurus and many here. There was also some concerns about his work ethic. We will see long run but somehow Howie Roseman the greatest GM in league history has drafted crappy players and over paid for Barkley no matter how good he does.

Just awesome to see
RE: RE: October 20th  
GiantTuff1 : 9/17/2024 11:13 pm : link
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All of you that are saying F-Barkley please bring that same energy on that day. I love Barkley. Best player by far in a dismal time in this franchise’s history. Now that he’s gone this team is one injury away to a WR of being unwatchable. Who are we kidding.



If you love Barkley and think he was a winning player here, you missed a lot of games. The easy passes like tonight for first downs that he routinely dropped, the times we needed to run out the clock and he ran out of bounds, and all the times we needed to score quickly and he cut back inside for another 2 yards that cost us 15 seconds,

He is a nice guy and a talented player. He is also a dumb player who can’t make a clutch play to save his life.

THIS.

Some players are more than the sum of their parts. Barkley is less than the sum of his parts. He is a losing player. Glad to stick his energy onto the Eagles and watch the curse take hold.
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