He stole a lot of Barkley moves, cut-backs, spin moves etc. I was both surprised and pleased to see it. (I also loved Jakob Johnson at FB, want to see more of that).
If you can run this well, (defenses are forced to respect you), then you can play-action pass - best way to open up deep routes for Slayton & Hyatt.
My main advice for Dan Jones - STOP bird-dogging your receivers (the defenses is focusing on your eyes), trust your O-line, look at the entire field !!!!
He stole a lot of Barkley moves, cut-backs, spin moves etc. I was both surprised and pleased to see it. (I also loved Jakob Johnson at FB, want to see more of that).
If you can run this well, (defenses are forced to respect you), then you can play-action pass - best way to open up deep routes for Slayton & Hyatt.
My main advice for Dan Jones - STOP bird-dogging your receivers (the defenses is focusing on your eyes), trust your O-line, look at the entire field !!!!
Singletary stole from Barkley? That's not how this works.
goes on the list as another example of the incompetence of Schoen and Daboll. It's a long list at this point.
Totally disagree. We need a swing tackle just in case one goes down. Do you really want to see Ezeudu instead?
Groom Ezeudu and Kubas to be back up guards.
Interested in knowing what changes they made if any to the run blocking scheme. Looked good in the clip and hopefully they can build on it and do it against the better fronts. Good run game with the RB's really helps open things up elsewhere.
goes on the list as another example of the incompetence of Schoen and Daboll. It's a long list at this point.
Totally disagree. We need a swing tackle just in case one goes down. Do you really want to see Ezeudu instead?
Groom Ezeudu and Kubas to be back up guards.
and just fundamental decision making. GVR, Runyan, and Eluemenor arent superstars, they are functional experienced players. JMS was a young player who could have gone either way.
good decisions + good coaching = good results.
at this moment, is there a better unit on the team than the OL? think about that for a minute and when the last time that was true.
Practicing Neal at Guard doesn't mean he can't play OT
if needed. There is a bigger picture than the 2024 season, especially if the Giants continue to lose games week after week.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
RE: Practicing Neal at Guard doesn't mean he can't play OT
if needed. There is a bigger picture than the 2024 season, especially if the Giants continue to lose games week after week.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
goes on the list as another example of the incompetence of Schoen and Daboll. It's a long list at this point.
Totally disagree. We need a swing tackle just in case one goes down. Do you really want to see Ezeudu instead?
Groom Ezeudu and Kubas to be back up guards.
The Giants don't have a swing tackle.
If that gets exposed, things may cascade beyond lack of production on the field.
RE: Practicing Neal at Guard doesn't mean he can't play OT
if needed. There is a bigger picture than the 2024 season, especially if the Giants continue to lose games week after week.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
You are not wasting the precious few in season practice reps on a neal at guard experiment when he hasnt played that position since college. Thats just not how it works. In season is for game plans, not player development.
RE: the offensive line difference this year shows the impact of coaching
and just fundamental decision making. GVR, Runyan, and Eluemenor arent superstars, they are functional experienced players. JMS was a young player who could have gone either way.
good decisions + good coaching = good results.
at this moment, is there a better unit on the team than the OL? think about that for a minute and when the last time that was true.
so the fact that 3 of the players are different means nothing. Check.
Just an FYI, the much hated Bobby Johnson's new friends just trucked us to the tune of 210 yards on the ground.
if needed. There is a bigger picture than the 2024 season, especially if the Giants continue to lose games week after week.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
some of you deserve the dopes that run the Giants.
Let's try this again.
A team that's going to lose double digit games again this year is playing a barely average 34 year old who is unsigned for next year at guard. While a 6' 8" 350 lb 24 year old 7th pick in the draft who has an 8 million dollar cap hit and 4 million in guaranteed money NEXT YEAR practices only at backup RT a position he's failed at.
I didn't say bench Van Roten and start Neal this week, I said he should be practicing at guard to try and salvage something from the 7th pick in the draft.
This is nothing new it's been done by smart teams for years. Sometimes it works sometimes the player is as bad at guard as he is at tackle. Even Erik Flowers managed to be a serviceable guard for a few years after the Giants dumped him.
And people wonder why the Giants are a laughing stock.
Interested in knowing what changes they made if any to the run blocking scheme. Looked good in the clip and hopefully they can build on it and do it against the better fronts. Good run game with the RB's really helps open things up elsewhere.
Doesn't Washington still have very good DTs and a solid Dline?
RE: RE: the offensive line difference this year shows the impact of coaching
and just fundamental decision making. GVR, Runyan, and Eluemenor arent superstars, they are functional experienced players. JMS was a young player who could have gone either way.
good decisions + good coaching = good results.
at this moment, is there a better unit on the team than the OL? think about that for a minute and when the last time that was true.
so the fact that 3 of the players are different means nothing. Check.
Just an FYI, the much hated Bobby Johnson's new friends just trucked us to the tune of 210 yards on the ground.
Bobby Johnson's oline was not opening holes like that. It was poor tackling and powerful runs by Robinson. Robinson was hit behind the line or at the line often and just broke through.
And all those bad players Bobby Johnson had and left are playing well where there are now. So yeah, it was Bobby Johnson that had a lot to do with poor line play.
some of you deserve the dopes that run the Giants.
Let's try this again.
A team that's going to lose double digit games again this year is playing a barely average 34 year old who is unsigned for next year at guard. While a 6' 8" 350 lb 24 year old 7th pick in the draft who has an 8 million dollar cap hit and 4 million in guaranteed money NEXT YEAR practices only at backup RT a position he's failed at.
I didn't say bench Van Roten and start Neal this week, I said he should be practicing at guard to try and salvage something from the 7th pick in the draft.
This is nothing new it's been done by smart teams for years. Sometimes it works sometimes the player is as bad at guard as he is at tackle. Even Erik Flowers managed to be a serviceable guard for a few years after the Giants dumped him.
And people wonder why the Giants are a laughing stock.
You may be one of the reasons the Giants are a laughing stock. Eluemunor can and does prefer to play RG. Neal has the higher upside at RT. You see what Bricillo has done so far and you don't want to give him time with Neal? I agree with letting Ezeudu practice at guard where he seems more comfortable and his size is a better fit.
Don't care about next year's cap hit. It gets hit anyway. Let's see if Neal can play tackle before making a change.
I would trust nothing that was done under Bobby Johnson.
read better section. I wish I was the Giants problem.
FOR THE 3RD TIME.
I SAID EVAN NEAL SHOULD BE PRACTICING AT GUARD.
I didn't say he shouldn't take practice snaps at RT too. If the RT gets hurt he's going to replace him. He should be preparing to replace an OG too.
Seriously what is wrong with some of you? How can you defend the way the Giants front office and coaching staff has handled the roster the past 19 games?
I wish the HC and front office looked that beautiful.
Maybe Bricillo should be promoted.
The million dollar question(maybe billion); can we lock in Bricillo? No matter who we get rid of lets keep the first competent OL coach we've had in a decade! ....I hope I didn't just jinx us.....
WFT and especially that front was very good in 2022. Poor since then. Run D is a lot more than DT play but the Skins appear to be moving on from one of them.
Early in the season to know all the teams strength and weaknesses. Giants will face a number of better fronts and overall D's imv but time will tell. I didn't find the Giants RB production good in game 1 but this past one was strong.
I do have high standards for the OL and running game.
RE: RE: the offensive line difference this year shows the impact of coaching
and just fundamental decision making. GVR, Runyan, and Eluemenor arent superstars, they are functional experienced players. JMS was a young player who could have gone either way.
good decisions + good coaching = good results.
at this moment, is there a better unit on the team than the OL? think about that for a minute and when the last time that was true.
so the fact that 3 of the players are different means nothing. Check.
Just an FYI, the much hated Bobby Johnson's new friends just trucked us to the tune of 210 yards on the ground.
maybe read a little better? I mentioned the 3 new players. do you think the OL coach doesnt have any say in choosing the new players?
bobby johnson got players too btw - he got evan neal at pick #7 and mark glowinski who got paid the same amount as eluemenor and similarly had played for him prior in IND. he also got some other vet journeyman (feliciano got same $ as GVR) and ezeudu at pick 66. why do you suspect everyone he had over 2 years was worse than what we've seen from bricillo in 2 games?
goes on the list as another example of the incompetence of Schoen and Daboll. It's a long list at this point.
Totally disagree. We need a swing tackle just in case one goes down. Do you really want to see Ezeudu instead?
Groom Ezeudu and Kubas to be back up guards.
earlier and he pointed to the same exact plays with the triple duo blocks and then the triple trap blocks.
Beautiful blocking. When was the last time the Giants oline blocked like this?
Geez, here is hoping Bricillo is working with Evan Neal.
I’m wondering if Neal can actually stay healthy and w some real coaching can he be a better pro than Thibs. This is utterly redundant w Burns signed long term. They can’t stop the run. Get another real DT and a true 4-3 DE next year.
RE: Practicing Neal at Guard doesn't mean he can't play OT
if needed. There is a bigger picture than the 2024 season, especially if the Giants continue to lose games week after week.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
+1000
RE: All I can say, Eric, Saquoan was a world-beater ....
When he came here (and still demanded and got) eight man lines, to stop him, when he left. I'm delighted to see a lot of "ol 26" in Singletary.
Just not true. If you watch the defenses they did almost nothing special to stop SB. He had one great year, and besides that was anywhere from not very good to pretty good. Nowhere close to a world beater. A lot of lip service. No actual fear.
Beautiful blocking. When was the last time the Giants oline blocked like this?
Geez, here is hoping Bricillo is working with Evan Neal.
Pass pro was still a wreck but the run blocking was nasty.
Good results so far.
He stole a lot of Barkley moves, cut-backs, spin moves etc. I was both surprised and pleased to see it. (I also loved Jakob Johnson at FB, want to see more of that).
If you can run this well, (defenses are forced to respect you), then you can play-action pass - best way to open up deep routes for Slayton & Hyatt.
My main advice for Dan Jones - STOP bird-dogging your receivers (the defenses is focusing on your eyes), trust your O-line, look at the entire field !!!!
He stole a lot of Barkley moves, cut-backs, spin moves etc. I was both surprised and pleased to see it. (I also loved Jakob Johnson at FB, want to see more of that).
If you can run this well, (defenses are forced to respect you), then you can play-action pass - best way to open up deep routes for Slayton & Hyatt.
My main advice for Dan Jones - STOP bird-dogging your receivers (the defenses is focusing on your eyes), trust your O-line, look at the entire field !!!!
Singletary stole from Barkley? That's not how this works.
Totally disagree. We need a swing tackle just in case one goes down. Do you really want to see Ezeudu instead?
Groom Ezeudu and Kubas to be back up guards.
When he came here (and still demanded and got) eight man lines, to stop him, when he left. I'm delighted to see a lot of "ol 26" in Singletary.
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I wish the HC and front office looked that beautiful.
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goes on the list as another example of the incompetence of Schoen and Daboll. It's a long list at this point.
Totally disagree. We need a swing tackle just in case one goes down. Do you really want to see Ezeudu instead?
Groom Ezeudu and Kubas to be back up guards.
The Giants don't have a swing tackle.
good decisions + good coaching = good results.
at this moment, is there a better unit on the team than the OL? think about that for a minute and when the last time that was true.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
The issue was he was injured in camp.
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goes on the list as another example of the incompetence of Schoen and Daboll. It's a long list at this point.
Totally disagree. We need a swing tackle just in case one goes down. Do you really want to see Ezeudu instead?
Groom Ezeudu and Kubas to be back up guards.
The Giants don't have a swing tackle.
If that gets exposed, things may cascade beyond lack of production on the field.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
You are not wasting the precious few in season practice reps on a neal at guard experiment when he hasnt played that position since college. Thats just not how it works. In season is for game plans, not player development.
good decisions + good coaching = good results.
at this moment, is there a better unit on the team than the OL? think about that for a minute and when the last time that was true.
Just an FYI, the much hated Bobby Johnson's new friends just trucked us to the tune of 210 yards on the ground.
No offense but I am not sure you understand how football works. You can blame them for a lot of things. This isn't one of them.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
This ^
Maybe Bricillo should be promoted.
Let's try this again.
A team that's going to lose double digit games again this year is playing a barely average 34 year old who is unsigned for next year at guard. While a 6' 8" 350 lb 24 year old 7th pick in the draft who has an 8 million dollar cap hit and 4 million in guaranteed money NEXT YEAR practices only at backup RT a position he's failed at.
I didn't say bench Van Roten and start Neal this week, I said he should be practicing at guard to try and salvage something from the 7th pick in the draft.
This is nothing new it's been done by smart teams for years. Sometimes it works sometimes the player is as bad at guard as he is at tackle. Even Erik Flowers managed to be a serviceable guard for a few years after the Giants dumped him.
And people wonder why the Giants are a laughing stock.
Doesn't Washington still have very good DTs and a solid Dline?
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and just fundamental decision making. GVR, Runyan, and Eluemenor arent superstars, they are functional experienced players. JMS was a young player who could have gone either way.
good decisions + good coaching = good results.
at this moment, is there a better unit on the team than the OL? think about that for a minute and when the last time that was true.
so the fact that 3 of the players are different means nothing. Check.
Just an FYI, the much hated Bobby Johnson's new friends just trucked us to the tune of 210 yards on the ground.
Bobby Johnson's oline was not opening holes like that. It was poor tackling and powerful runs by Robinson. Robinson was hit behind the line or at the line often and just broke through.
And all those bad players Bobby Johnson had and left are playing well where there are now. So yeah, it was Bobby Johnson that had a lot to do with poor line play.
Let's try this again.
A team that's going to lose double digit games again this year is playing a barely average 34 year old who is unsigned for next year at guard. While a 6' 8" 350 lb 24 year old 7th pick in the draft who has an 8 million dollar cap hit and 4 million in guaranteed money NEXT YEAR practices only at backup RT a position he's failed at.
I didn't say bench Van Roten and start Neal this week, I said he should be practicing at guard to try and salvage something from the 7th pick in the draft.
This is nothing new it's been done by smart teams for years. Sometimes it works sometimes the player is as bad at guard as he is at tackle. Even Erik Flowers managed to be a serviceable guard for a few years after the Giants dumped him.
And people wonder why the Giants are a laughing stock.
You may be one of the reasons the Giants are a laughing stock. Eluemunor can and does prefer to play RG. Neal has the higher upside at RT. You see what Bricillo has done so far and you don't want to give him time with Neal? I agree with letting Ezeudu practice at guard where he seems more comfortable and his size is a better fit.
Don't care about next year's cap hit. It gets hit anyway. Let's see if Neal can play tackle before making a change.
I would trust nothing that was done under Bobby Johnson.
FOR THE 3RD TIME.
I SAID EVAN NEAL SHOULD BE PRACTICING AT GUARD.
I didn't say he shouldn't take practice snaps at RT too. If the RT gets hurt he's going to replace him. He should be preparing to replace an OG too.
Seriously what is wrong with some of you? How can you defend the way the Giants front office and coaching staff has handled the roster the past 19 games?
I know they are getting doubled in these examples, but they are just getting bullied on a football field.
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I wish the HC and front office looked that beautiful.
Maybe Bricillo should be promoted.
The million dollar question(maybe billion); can we lock in Bricillo? No matter who we get rid of lets keep the first competent OL coach we've had in a decade! ....I hope I didn't just jinx us.....
Early in the season to know all the teams strength and weaknesses. Giants will face a number of better fronts and overall D's imv but time will tell. I didn't find the Giants RB production good in game 1 but this past one was strong.
I do have high standards for the OL and running game.
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and just fundamental decision making. GVR, Runyan, and Eluemenor arent superstars, they are functional experienced players. JMS was a young player who could have gone either way.
good decisions + good coaching = good results.
at this moment, is there a better unit on the team than the OL? think about that for a minute and when the last time that was true.
so the fact that 3 of the players are different means nothing. Check.
Just an FYI, the much hated Bobby Johnson's new friends just trucked us to the tune of 210 yards on the ground.
maybe read a little better? I mentioned the 3 new players. do you think the OL coach doesnt have any say in choosing the new players?
bobby johnson got players too btw - he got evan neal at pick #7 and mark glowinski who got paid the same amount as eluemenor and similarly had played for him prior in IND. he also got some other vet journeyman (feliciano got same $ as GVR) and ezeudu at pick 66. why do you suspect everyone he had over 2 years was worse than what we've seen from bricillo in 2 games?
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goes on the list as another example of the incompetence of Schoen and Daboll. It's a long list at this point.
Totally disagree. We need a swing tackle just in case one goes down. Do you really want to see Ezeudu instead?
Groom Ezeudu and Kubas to be back up guards.
He can still play tackle in an emergency.
Beautiful blocking. When was the last time the Giants oline blocked like this?
Geez, here is hoping Bricillo is working with Evan Neal.
I’m wondering if Neal can actually stay healthy and w some real coaching can he be a better pro than Thibs. This is utterly redundant w Burns signed long term. They can’t stop the run. Get another real DT and a true 4-3 DE next year.
The Giants are playing a 34 year old journeyman who is a UFA after this year at RG. Neal has an 8 million dollar cap hit next year and 4 million in guaranteed money left on his contract. It's malpractice to not make every possible effort to get some return on a 7th pick in the draft.
+1000
When he came here (and still demanded and got) eight man lines, to stop him, when he left. I'm delighted to see a lot of "ol 26" in Singletary.
Just not true. If you watch the defenses they did almost nothing special to stop SB. He had one great year, and besides that was anywhere from not very good to pretty good. Nowhere close to a world beater. A lot of lip service. No actual fear.
Playing guard requires less athletic ability and more brute strength.
Who does that sound like?