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Lowell : 9/18/2024 10:39 am
29-38 last four years
73 years old
Had Joe Judge running his offense
Very poor drafts

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I foresee  
Jerry in_DC : 9/18/2024 2:20 pm : link
Belichick drafting a DL, signing Jacoby Brisset to play QB, improving the defense, going 7-10 twice, retiring, and leaving us back where we are right now
RE: RE: We need a young innovative coach  
joe48 : 9/18/2024 2:22 pm : link
In comment 16615177 Go Terps said:
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BB should stick to chasing young skirts



Daboll, Judge, and McAdoo are young innovative coaches that got chewed up by the Giants' organizational structure.

Time to try a different approach.

These guys were not top choices. I think BB without Brady has shown to be sub par. Don’t think Daboll and Schoen are going anywhere next year. Fans panic. I am not in love with Daboll. This is his first coaching job.
RE: I foresee  
JonC : 9/18/2024 2:23 pm : link
In comment 16615189 Jerry in_DC said:
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Belichick drafting a DL, signing Jacoby Brisset to play QB, improving the defense, going 7-10 twice, retiring, and leaving us back where we are right now


Yeah, that's along the lines I'd expect.
Hiring Bill B. at this point would  
Chris L. : 9/18/2024 2:32 pm : link
be just as big a mistake as drafting Jones. He would want to be both coach and GM and you want NOOOOO part of him as GM. His drafting of players up in New England over the last 10 years of his tenure up there was horrible. Plus when he fails it will be next to impossible to get rid of him because we will have yet another John Mara favorite. Hard no for me.
RE: We need a young innovative coach  
GiantGrit : 9/18/2024 2:45 pm : link
In comment 16615174 joe48 said:
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BB should stick to chasing young skirts


The pendulum swings left and right. Harbaugh is 2-0 with the Chargers and I expect them to have a really good year. He just gets how to install a gritty culture. 3 TE sets, crisp blocking, solid in the trenches. Control T.O.P. The league is no longer set up to defend that.

And that’s not to say you can’t win being a pass heavy team. The truth is, there’s more than one way to win. One of the biggest problems to my eye? The Giants don’t hire guys with an identifiable style of play. McAdoo, Shurmur, Judge, thus far even Daboll. The same questions keep coming up years into their tenures - whats the team building towards? What style of football do they want to play?

If a house cleaning is in order, hire a successful HC with a CLEAR style of football he has previously shown capable of installing. The Giants date down far too often. I think its because they’re wary of a big personality type that isn’t easily controllable. Thats just conjecture though.
I do think he has a chip on his shoulder  
moespree : 9/18/2024 2:49 pm : link
To show he can still coach and win without Brady.

That being said, hiring him to be the GM too would be a disaster waiting to happen.

And I thought that if he got back in he'd hire new people than his usual assistants, just to shake it up for himself. But him and Patricia going around everywhere in the media together doesn't really suggest that will happen.

So there are cautions with Belichick.
JonC  
BigBlueCane : 9/18/2024 2:49 pm : link
would BB deal with Howie Roseman as an equal?
I guess we're going from the daily D jones threads  
Red Right Hand : 9/18/2024 3:08 pm : link
to the daily Belichik threads
RE: JonC  
JonC : 9/18/2024 3:20 pm : link
In comment 16615226 BigBlueCane said:
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would BB deal with Howie Roseman as an equal?


Good question. Given the roster, and his age and goals, maybe he would in order to win.
Would Roseman accept BB as an equal?  
bceagle05 : 9/18/2024 3:29 pm : link
I wouldn’t underestimate Roseman’s ego there either. He may want a puppet like Guido Sirianni.
RE: I foresee  
widmerseyebrow : 9/18/2024 3:30 pm : link
In comment 16615189 Jerry in_DC said:
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Belichick drafting a DL, signing Jacoby Brisset to play QB, improving the defense, going 7-10 twice, retiring, and leaving us back where we are right now


Yep, pretty much.
Not being GM  
jeff57 : 9/18/2024 4:24 pm : link
Would be a requirement if they hired him as coach.
RE: None of those guys were 73 years old  
nyfootballfan : 9/18/2024 5:08 pm : link
In comment 16615050 Greg from LI said:
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nor were they dating 24 year olds lol
RE: RE: None of those guys were 73 years old  
jeff57 : 9/18/2024 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16615368 nyfootballfan said:
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nor were they dating 24 year olds lol


Free Viagra would have to be included in his contract
RE: Counterpoint  
section125 : 9/18/2024 6:13 pm : link
In comment 16614904 Mike from Ohio said:
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No it is the exact point. He was mundane the last 4 years. This isn't 2006 with Tom Brady.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2024 6:59 pm : link
If Dabs does get canned-which I'd bet $ on as of 9/18-I want an experienced HC, be it BB, Vrabel, or whoever.
Mara  
Giants4me : 9/18/2024 7:58 pm : link
needs to stay out of the hiring process next go round.

The results speak for themselves.
RE: Mara  
Sean : 9/18/2024 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16615481 Giants4me said:
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needs to stay out of the hiring process next go round.

The results speak for themselves.

Schoen hired Daboll.
If Daboll is gone, I'd like a defensive coach  
Sean : 9/18/2024 8:10 pm : link
The Giants have not had a defensive head coach since Parcells if you can believe it:

Handley
Reeves
Fassel
Coughlin
McAdoo
Shurmur
Judge (ST)
Daboll

It's time to go defense. Vrabel makes the most sense and he's got Cowden in the building with him.
RE: RE: RE: Six Super Bowls.  
cosmicj : 9/18/2024 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16614943 Mike from Ohio said:
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Look at the body of work after Brady left.



Sure, if you remove the bulk of his career, what else has he done?

Seems like there is some sort of pattern here...

Parcells coaching championships without Lawrence Taylor = 0
Vince Lombardi coaching championships without Bart Starr = 0
Tom Landry coaching championships without Roger Staubach = 0
Chuck Noll coaching championships without Terry Bradshaw = 0


Two comments unrelated to Belichick:

- this made me look up Staubach’s career. I had no idea how outstanding Staubach’s 1971 season was. He led the league in YPA, lowert number of interceptions, and he won each and every game he started. (The Cowboys lost a couple when he was injured.) That has to be one of the great QB seasons ever.

- Mike including Lombardi and Starr on the list is unfair. Starr was the starter throughout Lombardi Packers tenure. Lombardi coached one season in Washington before becoming ill. In that first season with the Skins, they coincidentally had the same winning % as the Packers did the first year Lombardi coached them. If Lombardi had lived, he might very well have won more with what was a talented Washington squad.
RE: I foresee  
cosmicj : 9/18/2024 8:38 pm : link
In comment 16615189 Jerry in_DC said:
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Belichick drafting a DL, signing Jacoby Brisset to play QB, improving the defense, going 7-10 twice, retiring, and leaving us back where we are right now


Sound prediction.
Cosminj  
Lombardi is probably the best comparison of them all. Most of BB's career he had Tom Brady as his QB. Suggesting Lombardi could have won more elsewhere is complete conjecture on your part. The fact of the matter is the majority of his coaching career he had one HoF QB and that was when he won championships. Your guess that he could have won more with Washington doesn't make the factual comparison any different.
Dallass  
Simms : 2:08 pm : link
It would not surprise me if he signs with Dallas. Jerry is nit getting any younger and wants to win now.

Mara trying to copy the Steelers combined with multiple season of bad HC hires, poor player analyst.

We need lighting in a bottle.
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