...then they realized why he gave himself up. It was exactly the right play, and it reflected the situational awareness that was always an unfortunate hole in Barkley's game.
Eh, this is a split decision. You go up 28-15 with 2 minutes plus to play. It's splitting hairs.
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It would have been 27-15. Extra point would be in serious doubt.
Put me in the camp that thought it was a horrible call. He was squared up and finished his block. Too many calls like that in the NFL today. The CB cried and got the call, didn’t even fight to work off the block. Don’t reward that.
Put me in the camp that thought it was a horrible call. He was squared up and finished his block. Too many calls like that in the NFL today. The CB cried and got the call, didn’t even fight to work off the block. Don’t reward that.
Glad I wasn't the only one. That looked very clean.
RE: RE: RE: Browns offensive line is a mess and Watson stinks
that Jones needs to be replaced. BUT, I thought he played very well today (for the 1st time I can think of) against a good defense.
He made the one dumb ass throw (that Nabers bailed
him out on).
Otherwise, his reads were sound, he was as assertive as was needed. His only clean pocket on the deep ball was the first one and just missed. They can win and be competitive with this level of QB play. Good enough for now.
Put me in the camp that thought it was a horrible call. He was squared up and finished his block. Too many calls like that in the NFL today. The CB cried and got the call, didn’t even fight to work off the block. Don’t reward that.
Glad I wasn't the only one. That looked very clean.
Flailing and falling backward neither defeats the block, nor should it draw a hold.
I'm down on them based on their history, but odd game to be negative after.
Odd is an understatement. If they got outplayed and still won, it wouldn't matter. A win is a win. They outplayed the Skins last week and lost. But as it is they were the better team which is no small thing in Cleveland.
The other guys get paid too. Including $46 million a year for the QB the defense plastered.
That the offense was pretty bad in the second half and let
I'm down on them based on their history, but odd game to be negative after.
Odd is an understatement. If they got outplayed and still won, it wouldn't matter. A win is a win. They outplayed the Skins last week and lost. But as it is they were the better team which is no small thing in Cleveland.
The other guys get paid too. Including $46 million a year for the QB the defense plastered.
I'm down on them based on their history, but odd game to be negative after.
Odd is an understatement. If they got outplayed and still won, it wouldn't matter. A win is a win. They outplayed the Skins last week and lost. But as it is they were the better team which is no small thing in Cleveland.
The other guys get paid too. Including $46 million a year for the QB the defense plastered.
This. Winning in Cleveland is a big deal.
And the Giants controlled the lines.
There is improvement each week. Uneven for sure, but tangible improvement. Everyone had us losing this game, and we dominated for half the game. None of you honestly expected this.
...then they realized why he gave himself up. It was exactly the right play, and it reflected the situational awareness that was always an unfortunate hole in Barkley's game.
3 times 40 = 2 minutes
Anyone questioning it is wrong
One way is a certain win. The other way is a probable win. It isn’t splitting hairs. Giving himself on the 1 was the correct decision. Great heads up play - the kind Barkley wasn’t ever smart enough to do.
Except he did do it. At least twice that i recall. There is plenty to bang on Barkley about, but let’s not pretend he hasn’t done what singletary did.
RE: That the offense was pretty bad in the second half and let
And yet you won’t acknowledge that the offense was really good in the first half and gave them a good chance to win.
Lol, you’re so predictable…
That’s funny because I’ve consistently complimented the WRs, said Jones played well in the first half.
But that doesn’t mean they didn’t take a step back in the second half. Multiple things are allowed to be true, know that’s too hard for you to comprehend
I watched this game at a large party and very few Giants fans
It felt like two teams intentionally throwing the game in that 4Q
I mean the Giants had nothing to do with thaf fumble. Just a botched handoff
Why did Cleveland go for it on 4th & 1 with 4 mins left and their TOs. Giants FG ends it
Yet the Giants starting on the 29 go backwards on 3 plays and miss the FG
Etc etc
This was ineptitude
I don't seebit that way. It's fine people see what they want..Jones misses Nabers deep that would have been another TD. Giants fumbled stopping another drive..
Giants defense was all over the Browns Oline and Watson
And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
Didn’t look like a team who had quit on their coach either
I really do not feel any better about this team than I did after the first two games.
Let's see if they are competitive agains a mediocre Cowboys team on Thursday night.
I'm not holding my breath.
You don’t feel any better about the defense?
Coaching matters.
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hats off to Schoen for upgrading that group so well - especially IOL, which has been sub-par for years.
Coaching matters.
Perhaps more than any other position group aside from QB
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But the negativity is overwhelming.
Enjoy the win or root for another team.
It's fucking ridiculous...we have hope going into a crucial matchup...wanna bring that shit so it Friday
BBI at its finest. Some people are never happy
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But the negativity is overwhelming.
Enjoy the win or root for another team.
It's fucking ridiculous...we have hope going into a crucial matchup...wanna bring that shit so it Friday
BBI at its finest. Some people are never happy
Pay attention to how quiet it is going to be this week on BBI.
The only thing some people want to do is bitch and moan.
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A win is a win.
I really do not feel any better about this team than I did after the first two games.
Let's see if they are competitive agains a mediocre Cowboys team on Thursday night.
I'm not holding my breath.
You don’t feel any better about the defense?
I mean they have given up only 1 Touchdown in 2 games horrible performance
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...then they realized why he gave himself up. It was exactly the right play, and it reflected the situational awareness that was always an unfortunate hole in Barkley's game.
Eh, this is a split decision. You go up 28-15 with 2 minutes plus to play. It's splitting hairs.
It would have been 27-15. Extra point would be in serious doubt.
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But the negativity is overwhelming.
Enjoy the win or root for another team.
It's fucking ridiculous...we have hope going into a crucial matchup...wanna bring that shit so it Friday
BBI at its finest. Some people are never happy
Best BBI reaction you could hope for right after the game, let's see how we are tomorrow. I feel there will be some optimism.
Offense was quite impressive in the 1st half. Defense pretty solid all around. We were fortunate that Ford dropped the handoff in the backfield.
This was one of those games between 2 mediocre teams that one of them has to win. There will be some more of those as we go.
If this team ends up at 0.500 or above, Daboll could be Coach of the Year again without having improvement.
Glad I wasn't the only one. That looked very clean.
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A win is a win.
I really do not feel any better about this team than I did after the first two games.
Let's see if they are competitive agains a mediocre Cowboys team on Thursday night.
I'm not holding my breath.
You don’t feel any better about the defense?
I mean they have given up only 1 Touchdown in 2 games horrible performance
The defense couldn’t get off the field or stop the run vs Washington. Today was a massive improvement for the D.
Aaron Thomas? Reincarnated?
It would have been 27-15. Extra point would be in serious doubt.
Don't be a baby. Joseph's a 94% kicker on extra points. Like half a point worse than Gano.
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But the negativity is overwhelming.
Enjoy the win or root for another team.
It's fucking ridiculous...we have hope going into a crucial matchup...wanna bring that shit so it Friday
BBI at its finest. Some people are never happy
Pay attention to how quiet it is going to be this week on BBI.
The only thing some people want to do is bitch and moan.
I'm pretty sure the place will be a ghost town with a win on Thursday lol
Why is so hard to acknowledge the defense playewd very well in THIS game? Geez.
Enjoy the win or root for another team.
+1
I'm down on them based on their history, but odd game to be negative after.
He made the one dumb ass throw (that Nabers bailed
him out on).
Otherwise, his reads were sound, he was as assertive as was needed. His only clean pocket on the deep ball was the first one and just missed. They can win and be competitive with this level of QB play. Good enough for now.
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the defense, let's see how you are feeling after the next game.
Why is so hard to acknowledge the defense playewd very well in THIS game? Geez.
He's on of the same dudes I think whining about Giants should've scored a TD rather than kneel. .
• 1st Half •
0.35 EPA/Play
0.60 EPA/Dropback
54% Success Rate (21 successful plays)
63% Dropback Success Rate
• 2nd Half •
-0.37 EPA/Play
-0.38 EPA/Dropback
31% Success Rate (9 successful plays)
33% Dropback Success Rate
• 1st Half •
0.35 EPA/Play
0.60 EPA/Dropback
54% Success Rate (21 successful plays)
63% Dropback Success Rate
• 2nd Half •
-0.37 EPA/Play
-0.38 EPA/Dropback
31% Success Rate (9 successful plays)
33% Dropback Success Rate
How about the Giants defense made him look bad....there was a reason he played poorly.
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Giants Advanced Stats by Half:
• 1st Half •
0.35 EPA/Play
0.60 EPA/Dropback
54% Success Rate (21 successful plays)
63% Dropback Success Rate
• 2nd Half •
-0.37 EPA/Play
-0.38 EPA/Dropback
31% Success Rate (9 successful plays)
33% Dropback Success Rate
How about the Giants defense made him look bad....there was a reason he played poorly.
Didn’t say the Giants didn’t have a hand in him playing poorly
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Put me in the camp that thought it was a horrible call. He was squared up and finished his block. Too many calls like that in the NFL today. The CB cried and got the call, didn’t even fight to work off the block. Don’t reward that.
Glad I wasn't the only one. That looked very clean.
Flailing and falling backward neither defeats the block, nor should it draw a hold.
It felt like two teams intentionally throwing the game in that 4Q
I mean the Giants had nothing to do with thaf fumble. Just a botched handoff
Why did Cleveland go for it on 4th & 1 with 4 mins left and their TOs. Giants FG ends it
Yet the Giants starting on the 29 go backwards on 3 plays and miss the FG
Etc etc
This was ineptitude
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Giants Advanced Stats by Half:
• 1st Half •
0.35 EPA/Play
0.60 EPA/Dropback
54% Success Rate (21 successful plays)
63% Dropback Success Rate
• 2nd Half •
-0.37 EPA/Play
-0.38 EPA/Dropback
31% Success Rate (9 successful plays)
33% Dropback Success Rate
How about the Giants defense made him look bad....there was a reason he played poorly.
Didn’t say the Giants didn’t have a hand in him playing poorly
Then what was your point?
I'm down on them based on their history, but odd game to be negative after.
Odd is an understatement. If they got outplayed and still won, it wouldn't matter. A win is a win. They outplayed the Skins last week and lost. But as it is they were the better team which is no small thing in Cleveland.
The other guys get paid too. Including $46 million a year for the QB the defense plastered.
It felt like two teams intentionally throwing the game in that 4Q
I mean the Giants had nothing to do with thaf fumble. Just a botched handoff
Why did Cleveland go for it on 4th & 1 with 4 mins left and their TOs. Giants FG ends it
Yet the Giants starting on the 29 go backwards on 3 plays and miss the FG
Etc etc
This was ineptitude
Here is your lollipop, you understand what it is to watch two bad football teams compete.
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I didn't expect to read all this.
I'm down on them based on their history, but odd game to be negative after.
Odd is an understatement. If they got outplayed and still won, it wouldn't matter. A win is a win. They outplayed the Skins last week and lost. But as it is they were the better team which is no small thing in Cleveland.
The other guys get paid too. Including $46 million a year for the QB the defense plastered.
This. Winning in Cleveland is a big deal.
And the Giants controlled the lines.
And if we are being honest, the game wasn’t as close as the final score.
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I didn't expect to read all this.
I'm down on them based on their history, but odd game to be negative after.
Odd is an understatement. If they got outplayed and still won, it wouldn't matter. A win is a win. They outplayed the Skins last week and lost. But as it is they were the better team which is no small thing in Cleveland.
The other guys get paid too. Including $46 million a year for the QB the defense plastered.
This. Winning in Cleveland is a big deal.
And the Giants controlled the lines.
There is improvement each week. Uneven for sure, but tangible improvement. Everyone had us losing this game, and we dominated for half the game. None of you honestly expected this.
I'm down on them based on their history, but odd game to be negative after.
JOrthman welcome to BBI. My name is Larry and it's a pleasure to meet you
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...then they realized why he gave himself up. It was exactly the right play, and it reflected the situational awareness that was always an unfortunate hole in Barkley's game.
3 times 40 = 2 minutes
Anyone questioning it is wrong
One way is a certain win. The other way is a probable win. It isn’t splitting hairs. Giving himself on the 1 was the correct decision. Great heads up play - the kind Barkley wasn’t ever smart enough to do.
Except he did do it. At least twice that i recall. There is plenty to bang on Barkley about, but let’s not pretend he hasn’t done what singletary did.
And yet you won’t acknowledge that the offense was really good in the first half and gave them a good chance to win.
Lol, you’re so predictable…
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Cleveland hang in. Think that’s pretty obvious.
And yet you won’t acknowledge that the offense was really good in the first half and gave them a good chance to win.
Lol, you’re so predictable…
That’s funny because I’ve consistently complimented the WRs, said Jones played well in the first half.
But that doesn’t mean they didn’t take a step back in the second half. Multiple things are allowed to be true, know that’s too hard for you to comprehend
And if we are being honest, the game wasn’t as close as the final score.
Good to see you back posting.
The game was as close as the final score.
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Nobody gave the Giants a chance today. In fact, lots of posters said they wouldn’t even watch the game.
And if we are being honest, the game wasn’t as close as the final score.
Good to see you back posting.
The game was as close as the final score.
Come on AJ you know the achy is falling but it's gonna be awesome and there'll be ice cream for everyone.
It felt like two teams intentionally throwing the game in that 4Q
I mean the Giants had nothing to do with thaf fumble. Just a botched handoff
Why did Cleveland go for it on 4th & 1 with 4 mins left and their TOs. Giants FG ends it
Yet the Giants starting on the 29 go backwards on 3 plays and miss the FG
Etc etc
This was ineptitude
I don't seebit that way. It's fine people see what they want..Jones misses Nabers deep that would have been another TD. Giants fumbled stopping another drive..
Giants defense was all over the Browns Oline and Watson
As for Banks…the guy is like a glove…now he has to learn to look back at the QB to track the ball.
Great to see our DL dominate after last week’s no show.
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A win is a win.
I really do not feel any better about this team than I did after the first two games.
Let's see if they are competitive agains a mediocre Cowboys team on Thursday night.
I'm not holding my breath.
You don’t feel any better about the defense?
No, I don't. The Browns O Line is a disaster.
Let's see who shows up on Thursday night.
Like I said, I'm not holding my breath.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
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A win is a win.
I really do not feel any better about this team than I did after the first two games.
Let's see if they are competitive agains a mediocre Cowboys team on Thursday night.
I'm not holding my breath.
You don’t feel any better about the defense?
No, I don't. The Browns O Line is a disaster.
Let's see who shows up on Thursday night.
Like I said, I'm not holding my breath.
Cautiously optimistic about the defense but I need to see a few games like this before thinking they’ve turned a corner from fine to good.