I watched this game at a large party and very few Giants fans
It felt like two teams intentionally throwing the game in that 4Q
I mean the Giants had nothing to do with thaf fumble. Just a botched handoff
Why did Cleveland go for it on 4th & 1 with 4 mins left and their TOs. Giants FG ends it
Yet the Giants starting on the 29 go backwards on 3 plays and miss the FG
Etc etc
This was ineptitude
I don't seebit that way. It's fine people see what they want..Jones misses Nabers deep that would have been another TD. Giants fumbled stopping another drive..
Giants defense was all over the Browns Oline and Watson
Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
The All 22 will be an interesting watch, as it may have started in the second half today.
RE: RE: RE: The offense is awfully similar to 2022
Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
The All 22 will be an interesting watch, as it may have started in the second half today.
That will be interesting. Sy will probably have something on it. I just think Daboll was calling safe plays/keep away. I didn't like it.
But it should open up every other part of the field. It will take maybe three players to cut Nabers off. CB, Safety and probably a LB from time to time.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The offense is awfully similar to 2022
Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
The All 22 will be an interesting watch, as it may have started in the second half today.
That will be interesting. Sy will probably have something on it. I just think Daboll was calling safe plays/keep away. I didn't like it.
But it should open up every other part of the field. It will take maybe three players to cut Nabers off. CB, Safety and probably a LB from time to time.
Possibly but teams likely will be fine letting him catch it underneath and limiting his YAC, which has been a majority of the offense right now. They’ll dare Jones to hit Nabers deep hoping he’ll miss more than he hits. Teams will force them to play how Daboll and we all want them to play.
Whether they can execute is another story
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The offense is awfully similar to 2022
Possibly but teams likely will be fine letting him catch it underneath and limiting his YAC, which has been a majority of the offense right now. They’ll dare Jones to hit Nabers deep hoping he’ll miss more than he hits. Teams will force them to play how Daboll and we all want them to play.
Whether they can execute is another story
Sooner or later, they have to hit some deeper passes to keep the safeties high.
Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
LOL. ajr (and others) don’t like it when you point out facts. Fucks up their narratives.
RE: The Giants won because they made less shitty plays than the Browns
And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
We each had two turnovers and one of ours led to us falling behind 7-0 11 seconds into a game where we got the ball first.
RE: The Giants won because they made less shitty plays than the Browns
And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
LOL. "Turnover luck"?? The Giants had more turnovers than the Browns. Some people just love to twist themselves in a pretzel to dismiss things.
Put me in the camp that thought it was a horrible call. He was squared up and finished his block. Too many calls like that in the NFL today. The CB cried and got the call, didn’t even fight to work off the block. Don’t reward that.
RE: RE: The Giants won because they made less shitty plays than the Browns
And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
LOL. "Turnover luck"?? The Giants had more turnovers than the Browns. Some people just love to twist themselves in a pretzel to dismiss things.
Fred hit the nail on the head way, way earlier.
And the Giants had an interception overturned, one ripped out of the defenders hands, and one dropped. That counts as turnover luck.
Nowhere was anything dismissed, it’s ok to point out this still isn’t a good team.
Glad all it takes is a win against the Browns to get you out of hiding.
RE: RE: RE: The offense is awfully similar to 2022
Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
LOL. ajr (and others) don’t like it when you point out facts. Fucks up their narratives.
This is an odd post being that we agreed. Try harder
Nobody gave the Giants a chance today. In fact, lots of posters said they wouldn’t even watch the game.
And if we are being honest, the game wasn’t as close as the final score.
Good to see you back posting.
The game was as close as the final score.
I’ve posted during and after every game this year. Don’t be a dick just because the Giants won today. Everyone is in a good mood except you. Go figure.
The offense forgot everything they, did in the first half. But, what a nice win. The first half was one of the best halves they've played in a long time.
Admit it, you thought the game was over with the fumble and the 1 play TD drive. I did. But, they stood tall. Great resolve.
I love the football IQ displayed by Singletary, but part of me also likes the idea of the TD there and making it a 2 score game.
Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
LOL. ajr (and others) don’t like it when you point out facts. Fucks up their narratives.
This is an odd post being that we agreed. Try harder
Bullshit. You point to the struggles of the offense of the 2nd half, without giving credit to the first half.
But you do you.
RE: RE: The Giants won because they made less shitty plays than the Browns
And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
We each had two turnovers and one of ours led to us falling behind 7-0 11 seconds into a game where we got the ball first.
Shhh! Ajr doesn’t like it when you fuck up his narrative
At the game. They didn't send many down field opportunities and either by design or audibles, they focused more on short routes and get the YAC.
Curious how Sy and guys like BigBlueBanter see it. They do need to hit big plays down field and sooner than later. Get Hyatt involved, Dabes.
It’s the one route Hyatt runs well right now, any future success likely depends on him making some plays down field. I expect Dallas to minimize the YAC and dare Jones to hit Slayton and Hyatt down field on Thursday. If they can’t it might look like week 1 again, if they can maybe they can finally beat Dallas for once.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The offense is awfully similar to 2022
Bullshit. You point to the struggles of the offense of the 2nd half, without giving credit to the first half.
But you do you.
Besides that post not even being about the second half offense, when did I not give credit to the offense in the first half? As well as the offense played in the first half, not being able to score again to put the game out of reach is concerning. It’s not like they went score for score in a second half shoot out with Cleveland. They put up 0 points. Not sure how this is pushing a narrative.
Your first actual football conversation on this board will be your first. You should probably head to bed so me and section can finish an actual football conversation.
I’d imagine the Browns are praying something comes from the civil suit
I'm really late posting, but I had to watch the game a second time with less booze again to confirm.
I really feel like my personal whipping boy Cor'Dale Flott had a better game than I expected. Other than the one badly missed tackle, he was almost good..... Dare I say it.
to be negative, Giants lost a fumble on the opening kickoff and were down 7-0 in 11 seconds..
The two Browns turnovers, 1 was a brian burns strip sack, how is that luck? The ither was a bad handoff, you want to call that luck fine..
And the score wasnt anywhere near indicative of the dominence the Giants defense had..Browns had TWO drives the entire game, 1 was 26 yards and the other was 49 yards, that is it..The browns did absolutely nothing..
In reality since we are doing a bunch of hypotheticals to dismiss the win, i guess its fair to say the score should of been 31-15
They screwed him up last year returning kicks and doing the same this year.
Hard to understand imv as I think he can be a good substitute RB behind Singletary.
ST’s is a huge problem that hasn’t been addressed in years now.
They screwed him up last year returning kicks and doing the same this year.
Hard to understand imv as I think he can be a good substitute RB behind Singletary.
ST’s is a huge problem that hasn’t been addressed in years now.
I think Tracy has taken over the backup RB position. He’s looked pretty darn good to me in the limited snaps.
RE: Anyone mentioning turnover luck is just looking
to be negative, Giants lost a fumble on the opening kickoff and were down 7-0 in 11 seconds..
The two Browns turnovers, 1 was a brian burns strip sack, how is that luck? The ither was a bad handoff, you want to call that luck fine..
And the score wasnt anywhere near indicative of the dominence the Giants defense had..Browns had TWO drives the entire game, 1 was 26 yards and the other was 49 yards, that is it..The browns did absolutely nothing..
In reality since we are doing a bunch of hypotheticals to dismiss the win, i guess its fair to say the score should of been 31-15
You have zero idea what turnover luck is. The Giants had an interception overturned, and two broken up by Nabers. That’s turnover luck. Just like the Giants missing a fg to keep Cleveland in the game was luck. Nobody dismissed the win, in fact it even says “that’s how most games in the league are won”.
The Giants dominated for a half. They barely managed 100 yards of offense and scored zero points in the second half. All while getting two turnovers, one at midfield and one in Browns territory.
good win and an important one. 0-3 with Thurs night home vs. DAL
to be negative, Giants lost a fumble on the opening kickoff and were down 7-0 in 11 seconds..
The two Browns turnovers, 1 was a brian burns strip sack, how is that luck? The ither was a bad handoff, you want to call that luck fine..
And the score wasnt anywhere near indicative of the dominence the Giants defense had..Browns had TWO drives the entire game, 1 was 26 yards and the other was 49 yards, that is it..The browns did absolutely nothing..
In reality since we are doing a bunch of hypotheticals to dismiss the win, i guess its fair to say the score should of been 31-15
You have zero idea what turnover luck is. The Giants had an interception overturned, and two broken up by Nabers. That’s turnover luck. Just like the Giants missing a fg to keep Cleveland in the game was luck. Nobody dismissed the win, in fact it even says “that’s how most games in the league are won”.
The Giants dominated for a half. They barely managed 100 yards of offense and scored zero points in the second half. All while getting two turnovers, one at midfield and one in Browns territory.
We are relaly going to play this game? we can do the same thing to Deshaun Watson, Brian Burns should of had a pick six as well...
Calling it luck because turnover happens or doesnt happen is not really fair, Every turnover or non turnover is different yes but sometimes like the Nabers catch or Nabers knocking the ball out of the Browns defenders hands so there was no INT is just a good smart play..
All turnovers are luck. Fumbles have a 50% chance of recovery over the course of a season. The fact that both teams recovered both their opponents fumbles is rare. The same with Cleveland missing out on 3 interceptions.
I admit that I do not understand how all turnovers are luck. If a defensive player jumps a pass and intercepts it, I am confused how that is luck. But, again I sometimes miss things that are plainly visible.
RE: The Giants won because they made less shitty plays than the Browns
And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
If by "shitty plays" you mean repeatedly failing to protect the quarterback, yes, you're right.
RE: RE: The Giants won because they made less shitty plays than the Browns
And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
If by "shitty plays" you mean repeatedly failing to protect the quarterback, yes, you're right.
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I watched this game at a large party and very few Giants fans
It felt like two teams intentionally throwing the game in that 4Q
I mean the Giants had nothing to do with thaf fumble. Just a botched handoff
Why did Cleveland go for it on 4th & 1 with 4 mins left and their TOs. Giants FG ends it
Yet the Giants starting on the 29 go backwards on 3 plays and miss the FG
Etc etc
This was ineptitude
I don't seebit that way. It's fine people see what they want..Jones misses Nabers deep that would have been another TD. Giants fumbled stopping another drive..
Giants defense was all over the Browns Oline and Watson
What you are describing is offensive ineptitude
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
I was hoping he'd go in this direction.
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Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
The All 22 will be an interesting watch, as it may have started in the second half today.
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Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
The All 22 will be an interesting watch, as it may have started in the second half today.
That will be interesting. Sy will probably have something on it. I just think Daboll was calling safe plays/keep away. I didn't like it.
But it should open up every other part of the field. It will take maybe three players to cut Nabers off. CB, Safety and probably a LB from time to time.
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In comment 16620494 ajr2456 said:
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Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
The All 22 will be an interesting watch, as it may have started in the second half today.
That will be interesting. Sy will probably have something on it. I just think Daboll was calling safe plays/keep away. I didn't like it.
But it should open up every other part of the field. It will take maybe three players to cut Nabers off. CB, Safety and probably a LB from time to time.
Possibly but teams likely will be fine letting him catch it underneath and limiting his YAC, which has been a majority of the offense right now. They’ll dare Jones to hit Nabers deep hoping he’ll miss more than he hits. Teams will force them to play how Daboll and we all want them to play.
Whether they can execute is another story
Possibly but teams likely will be fine letting him catch it underneath and limiting his YAC, which has been a majority of the offense right now. They’ll dare Jones to hit Nabers deep hoping he’ll miss more than he hits. Teams will force them to play how Daboll and we all want them to play.
Whether they can execute is another story
Sooner or later, they have to hit some deeper passes to keep the safeties high.
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Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
LOL. ajr (and others) don’t like it when you point out facts. Fucks up their narratives.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
We each had two turnovers and one of ours led to us falling behind 7-0 11 seconds into a game where we got the ball first.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
LOL. "Turnover luck"?? The Giants had more turnovers than the Browns. Some people just love to twist themselves in a pretzel to dismiss things.
Fred hit the nail on the head way, way earlier.
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And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
LOL. "Turnover luck"?? The Giants had more turnovers than the Browns. Some people just love to twist themselves in a pretzel to dismiss things.
Fred hit the nail on the head way, way earlier.
And the Giants had an interception overturned, one ripped out of the defenders hands, and one dropped. That counts as turnover luck.
Nowhere was anything dismissed, it’s ok to point out this still isn’t a good team.
Glad all it takes is a win against the Browns to get you out of hiding.
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Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
LOL. ajr (and others) don’t like it when you point out facts. Fucks up their narratives.
This is an odd post being that we agreed. Try harder
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Nobody gave the Giants a chance today. In fact, lots of posters said they wouldn’t even watch the game.
And if we are being honest, the game wasn’t as close as the final score.
Good to see you back posting.
The game was as close as the final score.
I’ve posted during and after every game this year. Don’t be a dick just because the Giants won today. Everyone is in a good mood except you. Go figure.
Admit it, you thought the game was over with the fumble and the 1 play TD drive. I did. But, they stood tall. Great resolve.
I love the football IQ displayed by Singletary, but part of me also likes the idea of the TD there and making it a 2 score game.
Bottom line, though, nice win.
Curious how Sy and guys like BigBlueBanter see it. They do need to hit big plays down field and sooner than later. Get Hyatt involved, Dabes.
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Lots of dump offs and creative scheming the last two weeks. Much like 2022 defenses will start to adjust and roll coverages toward Nabers.
If the Giants want to remain competitive Daboll and Jones will have to adjust and start hitting plays down field. If the downfield shots keep being as poor as they’ve been they’re going to struggle massively.
Yes, except the WRs are much better now then in 2022. They didn't have anyone as good as Nabers and Robinson.
But you are correct. Sometime soon(Thursday) they will roll coverage toward Nabers. Kafka has to have Slayton or Hyatt ready - or Johnson has to start catching passes.
LOL. ajr (and others) don’t like it when you point out facts. Fucks up their narratives.
This is an odd post being that we agreed. Try harder
Bullshit. You point to the struggles of the offense of the 2nd half, without giving credit to the first half.
But you do you.
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And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
We each had two turnovers and one of ours led to us falling behind 7-0 11 seconds into a game where we got the ball first.
Shhh! Ajr doesn’t like it when you fuck up his narrative
Curious how Sy and guys like BigBlueBanter see it. They do need to hit big plays down field and sooner than later. Get Hyatt involved, Dabes.
It’s the one route Hyatt runs well right now, any future success likely depends on him making some plays down field. I expect Dallas to minimize the YAC and dare Jones to hit Slayton and Hyatt down field on Thursday. If they can’t it might look like week 1 again, if they can maybe they can finally beat Dallas for once.
Bullshit. You point to the struggles of the offense of the 2nd half, without giving credit to the first half.
But you do you.
Besides that post not even being about the second half offense, when did I not give credit to the offense in the first half? As well as the offense played in the first half, not being able to score again to put the game out of reach is concerning. It’s not like they went score for score in a second half shoot out with Cleveland. They put up 0 points. Not sure how this is pushing a narrative.
Your first actual football conversation on this board will be your first. You should probably head to bed so me and section can finish an actual football conversation.
Deshaun Watson is leading an **all-time-franchise bad** offense for the CLEVELAND BROWNS.
I really feel like my personal whipping boy Cor'Dale Flott had a better game than I expected. Other than the one badly missed tackle, he was almost good..... Dare I say it.
The two Browns turnovers, 1 was a brian burns strip sack, how is that luck? The ither was a bad handoff, you want to call that luck fine..
And the score wasnt anywhere near indicative of the dominence the Giants defense had..Browns had TWO drives the entire game, 1 was 26 yards and the other was 49 yards, that is it..The browns did absolutely nothing..
In reality since we are doing a bunch of hypotheticals to dismiss the win, i guess its fair to say the score should of been 31-15
Hard to understand imv as I think he can be a good substitute RB behind Singletary.
ST’s is a huge problem that hasn’t been addressed in years now.
Hard to understand imv as I think he can be a good substitute RB behind Singletary.
ST’s is a huge problem that hasn’t been addressed in years now.
I think Tracy has taken over the backup RB position. He’s looked pretty darn good to me in the limited snaps.
The two Browns turnovers, 1 was a brian burns strip sack, how is that luck? The ither was a bad handoff, you want to call that luck fine..
And the score wasnt anywhere near indicative of the dominence the Giants defense had..Browns had TWO drives the entire game, 1 was 26 yards and the other was 49 yards, that is it..The browns did absolutely nothing..
In reality since we are doing a bunch of hypotheticals to dismiss the win, i guess its fair to say the score should of been 31-15
You have zero idea what turnover luck is. The Giants had an interception overturned, and two broken up by Nabers. That’s turnover luck. Just like the Giants missing a fg to keep Cleveland in the game was luck. Nobody dismissed the win, in fact it even says “that’s how most games in the league are won”.
The Giants dominated for a half. They barely managed 100 yards of offense and scored zero points in the second half. All while getting two turnovers, one at midfield and one in Browns territory.
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to be negative, Giants lost a fumble on the opening kickoff and were down 7-0 in 11 seconds..
The two Browns turnovers, 1 was a brian burns strip sack, how is that luck? The ither was a bad handoff, you want to call that luck fine..
And the score wasnt anywhere near indicative of the dominence the Giants defense had..Browns had TWO drives the entire game, 1 was 26 yards and the other was 49 yards, that is it..The browns did absolutely nothing..
In reality since we are doing a bunch of hypotheticals to dismiss the win, i guess its fair to say the score should of been 31-15
You have zero idea what turnover luck is. The Giants had an interception overturned, and two broken up by Nabers. That’s turnover luck. Just like the Giants missing a fg to keep Cleveland in the game was luck. Nobody dismissed the win, in fact it even says “that’s how most games in the league are won”.
The Giants dominated for a half. They barely managed 100 yards of offense and scored zero points in the second half. All while getting two turnovers, one at midfield and one in Browns territory.
We are relaly going to play this game? we can do the same thing to Deshaun Watson, Brian Burns should of had a pick six as well...
Calling it luck because turnover happens or doesnt happen is not really fair, Every turnover or non turnover is different yes but sometimes like the Nabers catch or Nabers knocking the ball out of the Browns defenders hands so there was no INT is just a good smart play..
Some things just never change…
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
If by "shitty plays" you mean repeatedly failing to protect the quarterback, yes, you're right.
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And their defense didn’t collapse after giving up a first play touchdown.
A lot of NFL games are won because one team makes less shitty plays. I don’t think there should be any chest thumping and acting like they dominated the Browns. Today turnover luck was in the Giants favor, sometimes it won’t be.
If by "shitty plays" you mean repeatedly failing to protect the quarterback, yes, you're right.
That would count as a shitty play