Have you ever seen a ref call a penalty on the wrong team?

For the league. How do you pay these guys to be that incompetent?

But chances are they weren’t scoring a TD anyway so I think it’s moot. Still, ridiculous that it happened. Especially with the replay assistant system in place, which seemed to work perfectly fine when it came time to overrule a holding call on the TD to Dowdle.

Also think there could’ve been a penalty called on the drop by Robinson. Defender had a hold his arm, which prevented Wan’Dale from making the catch.

another official apology from the NFL? Let's see:
-Playoff "loss" to the 49rs on a botched call
-Pushing the ball forward to give the Eagles a first down
-Not knowing which team committed a penalty

who can overrule plays when there’s obvious video evidence?

I thought it happens pretty frequently when the refs huddle up before making a call. That was a massive mistake which was made less because we got back into field goal range but that should never happen.

I assumed it was the right call because Bellinger didn’t react at all.

Why didn’t “New York” fix it?!?!

it was unreal, but seemed fitting for us. We always get strange penalties; tackling by the helmet, Hammer's holding calls, the no call with the niners, etc.. This might be the first where I've seen a facemask called on the guy getting his face ripped off though. Instead of 1st and 10 on the 18, it's 2nd and 18 on the 48. That's a down and 30 yards. Who knows if we would have scored a td, but that penalty makes it pretty hard for any team to overcome

In comment 16626765 bceagle05 said:

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I assumed it was the right call because Bellinger didn’t react at all.

This is what bothered me. Nobody on the Giants seemed confused or upset, so I assumed the call was legit. The refs just blew the call and everyone shrugged and went on with the game.

Absolute joke


They also picked up a clear holding on the dowdle touchdown….

Refs were a joke early on and it hurt

How does the official who threw the flag indicate the D and the in the ensuing discussion the Ref indicates the D and the D's HC looked annoyed and then the ref announces the penalty on the other team. And Bellinger's hands weren't even near the helmet, so it wasn't like they were calling the worst of the 2. They just called it on the wrong side and nobody bothered to correct it. How does that happen.

so that the refs paid more attention during their discussions. Dabs should have run onto the field and screamed at a ref.

i have never seen this, ever.

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so that the refs paid more attention during their discussions. Dabs should have run onto the field and screamed at a ref. i have never seen this, ever.

That's what I was thinking. Personally, if I was Bellinger I know I would have been livid and yelled at the ref. I am confident it can be done without another penalty. But, he knows he didn't pull a facemask and he knows his was pulled. How did he not react at all? And, then, in turn, Daboll would have reacted. I would have been livid if I am either one of them.

But, oh yeah, Daboll isn't supposed to get angry or show emotion on the sidelines anymore.

where multiple refs throw flags on the same play, and then decide to pick up the flags and announce no penalty.

In comment 16627037 RodneyHamp said:

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where multiple refs throw flags on the same play, and then decide to pick up the flags and announce no penalty.

Are you referring to the play where dallas scored a touchdown and they threw the flag at the feet of the lineman who was well past the line of scrimmage before the pass, and then announced no penalty?

was in. No question. The timing of when the penalties are called and not called is just too obvious.

In road games referreed by Clay Martin...

I hate blaming penalties for a loss but that is spurious at best.

In comment 16626758 Breeze_94 said:

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But chances are they weren’t scoring a TD anyway so I think it’s moot. Still, ridiculous that it happened. Especially with the replay assistant system in place, which seemed to work perfectly fine when it came time to overrule a holding call on the TD to Dowdle. Also think there could’ve been a penalty called on the drop by Robinson. Defender had a hold his arm, which prevented Wan’Dale from making the catch.

Happens every chiefs game.

Then the officials pick up a flag on the next series on a clear penalty. Of course they he result was a cowboys TD. Incompetence or are the games fixed. I don’t think it’s the latter but these are the questions the NFL is inviting. What a terrible look for the league.

In comment 16627110 Blackmax00 said:

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In comment 16626758 Breeze_94 said: Quote: But chances are they weren’t scoring a TD anyway so I think it’s moot. Still, ridiculous that it happened. Especially with the replay assistant system in place, which seemed to work perfectly fine when it came time to overrule a holding call on the TD to Dowdle. Also think there could’ve been a penalty called on the drop by Robinson. Defender had a hold his arm, which prevented Wan’Dale from making the catch. Happens every chiefs game.

The officials absolutely help the Chiefs. There’s too much evidence to dispute it.

The NFL is a multibillion dollar league with a growing gambling and fantasy interest that relies on fair results. Yet game after game their officials blow calls - and not just judgment calls. How was that facemask debacle not caught?

There are 16 games a week. How hard can finding 25+ people for each officiating crew role who are excellent at the job? Fortune 500 companies recruit and train hundreds of star VPs and managers, law firms have hundreds of top lawyers, etc. But the NFL cannot develop 25 good referees and crews? It is ridiculous.

In motion at the same time penalty either. First penalty was a game changer and game had just begun

that call was the difference in the game for the Giants. I think it was.

Those nitwit refs should be canned. That crew prides themselves on throwing a multitude of flags but they are fuck-ups. Get rid of them or put them on a PIP.

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In comment 16626765 bceagle05 said: Quote: I assumed it was the right call because Bellinger didn’t react at all. This is what bothered me. Nobody on the Giants seemed confused or upset, so I assumed the call was legit. The refs just blew the call and everyone shrugged and went on with the game.

Daboll was upset. And he was upset again on the TD that had the penalty for the boys that they then put back in their pocket. Those refs sucked ass.

egregious I’ve ever seen, simply ridiculous.

the most deserving is the official who threw the flag.
He absolutely knew who committed the foul; he knew that the announced call was on the wrong team AND HE LET IT GO!
To me that is a firing offense.

up flag on the Dallas TD could have been for either holding, or the OL who was literally on the ground 7 yards past the LOS.

How you pick up a flag on that play is what lends itself to the perception of bias or fixing games.

The facemask call was bizarre. You could see the ref talking to Clay point to the D and then they penalized the wrong team and didn't fix it.

that went against the Giants.

the overall flag fest last night rendered the game practically unwatchable... if it wasn't the Giants I would have turned it off after the first qtr.

the NFL has its priorities all wrong.

anything like that from a professional crew. An obvious call that went against wrong team? It killed the drive. Who knows, maybe we get it in the end zone on that drive and it's a different game.

we’re making fun of how awful (and tedious) the game was due to the officiating.

In comment 16627609 LG in NYC said:

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that went against the Giants. the overall flag fest last night rendered the game practically unwatchable... if it wasn't the Giants I would have turned it off after the first qtr. the NFL has its priorities all wrong.

This

Was at the game and it was painful.
80000 fans more interested in their phones, the Yankees or the DJ playing music between plays to give a shit about the obvious rigged game they were watching. It annoys the hell out of me that everyone just gobbles up this terrible product.

In comment 16627742 BlueHurricane said:

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In comment 16627609 LG in NYC said: Quote: that went against the Giants. the overall flag fest last night rendered the game practically unwatchable... if it wasn't the Giants I would have turned it off after the first qtr. the NFL has its priorities all wrong. This Was at the game and it was painful. 80000 fans more interested in their phones, the Yankees or the DJ playing music between plays to give a shit about the obvious rigged game they were watching. It annoys the hell out of me that everyone just gobbles up this terrible product.

I don't know about fixed. there were 2 big penalties that hurt the Giants for sure, but in terms of the overall flag fest, DAL was on the receiving end of many more flags than we were.

so while I very upset at the BS calls (non calls) that hurt the Giants, I am more disgusted at the overall state of NFL officiating and by extension, the NFL in general.

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In comment 16627037 RodneyHamp said: Quote: where multiple refs throw flags on the same play, and then decide to pick up the flags and announce no penalty. Are you referring to the play where dallas scored a touchdown and they threw the flag at the feet of the lineman who was well past the line of scrimmage before the pass, and then announced no penalty?

On the radio, Banks was certain the flags were for a hold and the TD was coming backl. No mention of ineligible man downfield, but either way, odd that 2 flags were thrown and picked up.

In comment 16627588 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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up flag on the Dallas TD could have been for either holding, or the OL who was literally on the ground 7 yards past the LOS. How you pick up a flag on that play is what lends itself to the perception of bias or fixing games. The facemask call was bizarre. You could see the ref talking to Clay point to the D and then they penalized the wrong team and didn't fix it.

I have been saying the same thing about the facemask. The official who threw the flag point to Dallas. The ref then seemed to confirm while in conversation by also pointing to Dallas. The camera panned to both sidelines and McCarthy seemed annoyed and Daboll pleased. Then they announce it on Bellinger.

How does Bellinger say nothing? If that's me I would have screamed at the ref, which also may not be the best approach. At the very least he has to say something to Daboll who says something to the Ref. Fucking bizarre.

it was so egregious that Daboll or Bellinger had to get in the face of the ref to complain. My only thought is that they were too shocked to react or didn't hear the call that it was on Bellinger.

But again, how can NY review some things, but not others. That is a textbook example of where NY is supposed to step in to correct a completely correctable error.

In comment 16628259 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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it was so egregious that Daboll or Bellinger had to get in the face of the ref to complain. My only thought is that they were too shocked to react or didn't hear the call that it was on Bellinger. But again, how can NY review some things, but not others. That is a textbook example of where NY is supposed to step in to correct a completely correctable error.

Yup. The only thing I can think of is it got lost in communication/translation. I am imagining the official who threw the flag saying it was against #82 and he meant the penalty was committed against 82 and the Ref translated it as the penalty was against #82, meaning he committed it. Either way, there is no excuse for the flag thrower not to correct this. And NY should have stepped in. I mean the broadcast made it embarrassingly obvious in their review of the replay.