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8 weeks of emphasizing deep passing plays

Ten Ton Hammer : 9/27/2024 8:00 am
The camp month and preseason, now we're at week 4 of the regular season. For what?


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Daniel Jones is now 2-for-14 with a pick on throws over 20 yards this season
He can't throw the deep  
jvm52106 : 9/27/2024 8:35 am : link
Pass at all. His inaccuracy which isn't reflected in his com % is really hurting the passing game.
RE: He can't throw the deep  
Blue21 : 9/27/2024 8:42 am : link
In comment 16627119 jvm52106 said:
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Pass at all. His inaccuracy which isn't reflected in his com % is really hurting the passing game.
it sure is. First three games overthrew all the deep balls. Last night under threw them.
Something I have been wondering  
blueblood : 9/27/2024 8:50 am : link
have the two neck injuries affected his ability to throw deep.
It hasn't been good  
Andy in Halifax : 9/27/2024 8:51 am : link
But as a poster said, at first it was overthrows and last night it was underthrows. I would be inclined to let him work out the kinks coming off injury and keep getting reps in practice and games each week at it.
RE: Something I have been wondering  
Heisenberg : 9/27/2024 8:58 am : link
In comment 16627149 blueblood said:
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have the two neck injuries affected his ability to throw deep.


This is what I was thinking about last night. He looks like he literally can't throw it deep with any kind of control anymore. That was something he was decent at early on. I mean, just that pass to Nabers that floated on the first big play where Nabers had to turn around and wait for the ball. That could have been a touchdown. It looks like a physical limitation to me at this point.
RE: Something I have been wondering  
Costy16 : 9/27/2024 8:58 am : link
In comment 16627149 blueblood said:
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have the two neck injuries affected his ability to throw deep.


Saw this talked about a ton on Twitter last night.
RE: Something I have been wondering  
56goat : 9/27/2024 9:07 am : link
In comment 16627149 blueblood said:
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have the two neck injuries affected his ability to throw deep.


+1. If we can't throw the ball down the field, teams will pack in the defense and we'll get what we got last night. DJ also doesn't seem to have the spatial awareness to fit throws into tight windows in the end zone, so everything has to be short and hope somebody can run it into the end zone. Either way we're joined to another object by an incline plane wrapped helically around an axis
The pass to Slayton that got picked  
RobCrossRiver56 : 9/27/2024 9:44 am : link
was horrendous. Should have been a TD.
RE: RE: Something I have been wondering  
Greg from LI : 9/27/2024 10:04 am : link
In comment 16627184 Heisenberg said:
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just that pass to Nabers that floated on the first big play where Nabers had to turn around and wait for the ball.


The deep incompletion to Slayton in the second half was the same thing. Slayton beat his man and then had to literally stop and stand there to try to catch the ball. The corner caught up and hit him as the ball arrived. It was a woefully poor pass.
RE: It hasn't been good  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/27/2024 10:17 am : link
In comment 16627154 Andy in Halifax said:
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But as a poster said, at first it was overthrows and last night it was underthrows. I would be inclined to let him work out the kinks coming off injury and keep getting reps in practice and games each week at it.

The thing is, the overthrows and the underthrows appear to be the same problem (IMO): something seems to have sapped his arm strength on deep balls.

The deep overthrows the past few weeks have been absolute missiles that were thrown as though DJ was just trying to throw as deep as possible, regardless of the trajectory of the ball (those deep overthrows never had a chance of a receiver being able to run under them because of how they were thrown).

Just uncorking a long pass with no accuracy is basically what happens when someone is only focused on maxing out the distance of the throw, but has to put all of their effort into it. And then last night (again, IMO) is what those deep passes look like when it's not just an indiscriminate vertical launch - with any air under them at all, they were underthrown.

Regardless of any other DJ criticisms, I think there might very well be something that has cost DJ some of his arm strength (I presume the neck injuries but that's purely speculation on my part).
RE: It hasn't been good  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/27/2024 10:27 am : link
In comment 16627154 Andy in Halifax said:
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But as a poster said, at first it was overthrows and last night it was underthrows. I would be inclined to let him work out the kinks coming off injury and keep getting reps in practice and games each week at it.


In all seriousness, do you honestly believe it's just a matter of "Working out the kinks" for him?

I think his neck inury  
jeff57 : 9/27/2024 10:36 am : link
Has affected his deep passes. He was never Dan Marino, but he used to throw a better deep pass than he does now.
RE: RE: It hasn't been good  
rsjem1979 : 9/27/2024 10:37 am : link
In comment 16627481 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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In comment 16627154 Andy in Halifax said:


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But as a poster said, at first it was overthrows and last night it was underthrows. I would be inclined to let him work out the kinks coming off injury and keep getting reps in practice and games each week at it.



In all seriousness, do you honestly believe it's just a matter of "Working out the kinks" for him?


Should probably rework his contract to give him another few years to sort it out.
I will say at least...  
BillKo : 9/27/2024 10:43 am : link
..they were throwing it deep last night, and trying.

And they should keep trying BTW - regardless of QB.

The OL is at least pass blocking well now - keep at it.

They'll eventually connect.
RE: Something I have been wondering  
Adirondack GMen : 9/27/2024 11:08 am : link
In comment 16627149 blueblood said:
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have the two neck injuries affected his ability to throw deep.


Bingo! Been thinking the same thing. When he first came up he could drop dimes. Now- not so much. Throws are behind, short or overthrown. The only difference from rookie year that would affect his accuracy is the neck thing. His legs seem strong and god knows he has more time to throw than ever before.
Hoping he can regain the dimes!
Overthrows on Deep Balls Last Week...  
Jim in Tampa : 9/27/2024 12:33 pm : link
Underthrows on deep balls this week.

It only stands to reason that next week will be DJ's Goldilocks game!
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