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Can we stop with the "We could get someone to do

Bill in UT : 9/27/2024 1:07 pm
what Jones does for 25% of the price" comments? They make no sense. We don't want to replace Jones with someone who does what he does, regardless of the cost. We want someone who does what Jones doesn't do. If you want to just say that Jones makes too much money for what he brings, fine, we all get that. TIA :)
No  
Jerry in_DC : 9/27/2024 1:09 pm : link
Would you be OK with paying Darius Slayton or Jason Pinnock $30M per year?
RE: No  
Bill in UT : 9/27/2024 1:12 pm : link
In comment 16627933 Jerry in_DC said:
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Would you be OK with paying Darius Slayton or Jason Pinnock $30M per year?


Did you even read the whole OP?
You do understand  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/27/2024 1:14 pm : link
we use money to help build the roster?

There are more holes to fill other than QB.
additional player  
jestersdead : 9/27/2024 1:14 pm : link
wouldn't it be 25% of Jones cost + additional money to spend in other areas? They'd be saving 75% of the cost that can go to a DB, S, WR #2 etc...
Many do not get it  
JonC : 9/27/2024 1:15 pm : link
which is why it gets a beating.
Let me try to make myself clearer  
Bill in UT : 9/27/2024 1:24 pm : link
Jones, as he has been performing, is not worth $40M per year. Hopefully, in the near future he will be replaced. But I, (I won't speak for others) for one, do not want him replaced by a vet QB who is at about the same level of play as Jones. That would prolong QB hell. To say we could get so and so for $10 is pointless. Jones needs to be replaced with someone who has a high ceiling, hopefully in the draft, which would be the cheapest way.
Sure, but in the meantime  
JonC : 9/27/2024 1:26 pm : link
it's difficult to get the much better QB via UFA too. The player has to avoid a Tag or be traded to us, etc.

In light of this, I would be fine if Minshew were our QB through a dark phase, and put the $ saved to better use. I think that's the basic point worth tracking. YMMV.
How about if we stop with the  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2024 1:28 pm : link
"can we stop with the..." posts or comments and yes the irony is not lost on me.

this place is not a monolith, there is no "we".

address the person or people individually and specifically and stop cluttering up the board with passive aggression.

I hope this talk helped you out.
RE: Let me try to make myself clearer  
Dinger : 9/27/2024 1:29 pm : link
In comment 16627964 Bill in UT said:
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Jones, as he has been performing, is not worth $40M per year. Hopefully, in the near future he will be replaced. But I, (I won't speak for others) for one, do not want him replaced by a vet QB who is at about the same level of play as Jones. That would prolong QB hell. To say we could get so and so for $10 is pointless. Jones needs to be replaced with someone who has a high ceiling, hopefully in the draft, which would be the cheapest way.

I'm of the same mind. I THINK that is why Lock was signed in the offseason as well. A flier on an inexpensive project who had some potential at some point. No long term commitment and no steep price. I think they know what thay have in Cutlets so they may wind up giving DL a start if we dont get a few wins, especially after the trade deadline.
What about 24%?  
OlyWABigBlue : 9/27/2024 1:34 pm : link
or even lower? Fair game?
RE: How about if we stop with the  
Bill in UT : 9/27/2024 2:14 pm : link
In comment 16627969 pjcas18 said:
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"can we stop with the..." posts or comments and yes the irony is not lost on me.

this place is not a monolith, there is no "we".

address the person or people individually and specifically and stop cluttering up the board with passive aggression.

I hope this talk helped you out.


I really wish I could help you out with your request, but I do my best not to respond to individuals in a contentious way
RE: RE: Let me try to make myself clearer  
Bill in UT : 9/27/2024 2:19 pm : link
In comment 16627972 Dinger said:
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In comment 16627964 Bill in UT said:


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Jones, as he has been performing, is not worth $40M per year. Hopefully, in the near future he will be replaced. But I, (I won't speak for others) for one, do not want him replaced by a vet QB who is at about the same level of play as Jones. That would prolong QB hell. To say we could get so and so for $10 is pointless. Jones needs to be replaced with someone who has a high ceiling, hopefully in the draft, which would be the cheapest way.


I'm of the same mind. I THINK that is why Lock was signed in the offseason as well. A flier on an inexpensive project who had some potential at some point. No long term commitment and no steep price. I think they know what thay have in Cutlets so they may wind up giving DL a start if we dont get a few wins, especially after the trade deadline.

As you say, we've already got Lock. But the Giants would have to decide that can no longer play Jones before they switch to Lock or Tommy. And they obviously are not at that point.
I know you don't  
pjcas18 : 9/27/2024 2:19 pm : link
that's the whole reason for your passive aggressive "can we stop with the...." BS.

It's gutless. Like going shirtless to a football game in a dome.
RE: I know you don't  
Bill in UT : 9/27/2024 2:20 pm : link
In comment 16628041 pjcas18 said:
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that's the whole reason for your passive aggressive "can we stop with the...." BS.

It's gutless. Like going shirtless to a football game in a dome.


Thanks for your input
Bill - I agree 100%  
Matt M. : 9/27/2024 4:46 pm : link
There are two separate issues. First, Jones is not worth his salary. He is not worth half his salary. But, more importantly, it isn't only about #1. It's about him not being good enough. You said it with not wanting to being in a veteran who can basically just replace Jones, but for less. We don't need a cheaper QB. We need a better QB. If he's cheaper, even better.
RE: Bill - I agree 100%  
Bill in UT : 9/27/2024 5:23 pm : link
In comment 16628251 Matt M. said:
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There are two separate issues. First, Jones is not worth his salary. He is not worth half his salary. But, more importantly, it isn't only about #1. It's about him not being good enough. You said it with not wanting to being in a veteran who can basically just replace Jones, but for less. We don't need a cheaper QB. We need a better QB. If he's cheaper, even better.


Well put, thank you
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