| Bill Parcells, the former great Giants head coach, famously said quarterbacks are judged by how often they get their team in the zone and how often they lead their team to victory. |
Overall Record
23-39-1 (.365)
Prime Time
Extends lead as the worst QB of all-time under bright lights
1-13 (.0714) record in prime time (0-8 MNF, .000).
Against Top of the Division
Where intensity is ratcheted up and sometimes anything can happen
1-7 record vs. Cowboys
2-3 record vs. Eagles
3-10 combined (.230)
Points
18.9 ppg career
22.6 ppg is the league average since Jones entered the league in 2019
21.5 ppg career high in 2022
Jones’s career high ppg is more than 1 pt lower than the league average of the past 6 years
Less than 18 ppg for 2019-2021, 2023-2024
15 ppg 2024
Passing yards per attempt
6.6 YPA Career
6.1 ypa in 2024 - ranked #27 - with an offensive line and #1 receiver
5.7 ypa in 2023 - ranked #35
6.8 ypa in 2022 - ranked #24
6.7 ypa in 2021 - ranked #26
6.6 ypa in 2020 - ranked #28
6.6 ypa in 2019 - ranked #29
GM’s
2
Head Coaches
3
Play Callers
5
We have wonderful human being but a historically bad quarterback masquerading as the starter for our team. If Jones was any good there would be little debate over him, yet there are endless debates attempting to justify Jones and the above. He is consistently one of the 6 worst passers in a league of 32 teams and does not generate scoring.
Under Parcells' measurement of what makes a good QB (wins and td's), there is no question Jones is an abject failure. The sooner Jones is benched (and eventually removed) the better for this franchise, our 2025 CAP exposure, and the mental health of fans, players, coaches, and anyone associated with the team, especially if they want to win in the NFL today. It's time to take the red pill.
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It's not speaking for Parcells and it's not hate. It's taking what Parcells said his criteria was and applying Jones' results objectively against it.
Considering the lens by which Parcells evaluated QB's, you can share with us whether you arrived at a different conclusion.
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For Parcells? WTF, the Jones hate is just abominable.
It's not speaking for Parcells and it's not hate. It's taking what Parcells said his criteria was and applying Jones' results objectively against it.
Considering the lens by which Parcells evaluated QB's, you can share with us whether you arrived at a different conclusion.
So, what would Parcells do at this very moment? Next year is a different story, but this year, given Jones isn't turning the ball over, and he's being productive, what could he possibly do that Daboll isn't?
DJ rarely makes a play in the air. All of his impact plays seem to be running on occasion for a first down.
And the Jones never-ending love fest by some hear us simply masochistic at this point.
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For Parcells? WTF, the Jones hate is just abominable.
And the Jones never-ending love fest by some hear us simply masochistic at this point.
Um, clearly, there's not much love if any in case you haven't noticed. And it's certainly not love, I see what's in the cards, but what's the better option right now. So much belly aching, you want to talk about masochistic.
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In comment 16628031 barens said:
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For Parcells? WTF, the Jones hate is just abominable.
And the Jones never-ending love fest by some hear us simply masochistic at this point.
Um, clearly, there's not much love if any in case you haven't noticed. And it's certainly not love, I see what's in the cards, but what's the better option right now. So much belly aching, you want to talk about masochistic.
I think a reasonable argument could be made that Lock or Tommy Cutlets would be a better option right now. The one constant on the negative side for DJ all year - can’t connect on the deep throws. The one emphasis for the Giants offense coming into this year - more shots downfield to help juice scoring.
For all their faults, right now you could argue both Lock and DeVito throw a better deep ball than DJ. From what I’ve seen this year from DJ, you could also reasonably say they have better arms than DJ. I think they both throw with anticipation better than DJ. I don’t quite get the argument about a ‘better option’ - we’re losing at a 75% clip, what is there to lose?
Do I think it’s time to pull the plug on DJ this year (not talking about long term - it definitely is)? No….but one more loss and I’m very open to making the switch.
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In comment 16628198 Jacobs #27 said:
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In comment 16628031 barens said:
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For Parcells? WTF, the Jones hate is just abominable.
And the Jones never-ending love fest by some hear us simply masochistic at this point.
Um, clearly, there's not much love if any in case you haven't noticed. And it's certainly not love, I see what's in the cards, but what's the better option right now. So much belly aching, you want to talk about masochistic.
I think a reasonable argument could be made that Lock or Tommy Cutlets would be a better option right now. The one constant on the negative side for DJ all year - can’t connect on the deep throws. The one emphasis for the Giants offense coming into this year - more shots downfield to help juice scoring.
For all their faults, right now you could argue both Lock and DeVito throw a better deep ball than DJ. From what I’ve seen this year from DJ, you could also reasonably say they have better arms than DJ. I think they both throw with anticipation better than DJ. I don’t quite get the argument about a ‘better option’ - we’re losing at a 75% clip, what is there to lose?
Do I think it’s time to pull the plug on DJ this year (not talking about long term - it definitely is)? No….but one more loss and I’m very open to making the switch.
Maybe, you could be right, but Jones is also running the offense fairly well, converting a fair amount of 1st downs. It's not exactly like your benching an unproductive player, despite his troubles with the long ball.
I think a reasonable argument could be made that Lock or Tommy Cutlets would be a better option right now.
yeah, but Daboll hasn't bought into that argument yet