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20/29 of Jones’ completions yesterday were within

eric2425ny : 9/27/2024 2:08 pm
6 yards from the LOS. Forget Danny Dimes. It’s Dink Dunk Danny now. Sweet Lord, no wonder this team doesn’t score any points.
That's not even West Coast Offense  
Anakim : 9/27/2024 2:09 pm : link
That's like...Santa Barbara Offense
RE: That's not even West Coast Offense  
eric2425ny : 9/27/2024 2:13 pm : link
In comment 16628022 Anakim said:
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That's like...Santa Barbara Offense


lol, well done. The Santa Barbara offense, patented by Brian Davoli.
Dinky Dimes? Dunky Danny?  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/27/2024 2:16 pm : link
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Very interesting....  
rnargi : 9/27/2024 2:25 pm : link
Incidentally, 17 of Daks 21 completions were within 6 yards of the line of scrimmage.
make that 17 of 22....  
rnargi : 9/27/2024 2:29 pm : link
and only three passes over 10 yards, the longest being 16.
RE: Very interesting....  
SGMen : 9/27/2024 2:30 pm : link
In comment 16628051 rnargi said:
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Incidentally, 17 of Daks 21 completions were within 6 yards of the line of scrimmage.
That is today's NFL where you move the chains by taking what the defense gives due to the NFL rules.
3/15 on passes over  
phil in arizona : 9/27/2024 2:32 pm : link
20 yards this year.

I remember the first time I watched football  
mako J : 9/27/2024 2:34 pm : link
Psst…That’s what happens when you average 1 ypc. It’s also how they only suffered 1 sack.

RE: Very interesting....  
DeVito32 : 9/27/2024 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16628051 rnargi said:
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Incidentally, 17 of Daks 21 completions were within 6 yards of the line of scrimmage.


Exactly. And nobody is killing Dak. Also Daks receivers didn’t drop 5 balls every game.
Yes…  
IchabodGiant : 9/27/2024 7:27 pm : link
Dak and DJ are very similar QBs.

Derp.
And just to be clear  
IchabodGiant : 9/27/2024 7:31 pm : link
Jones can’t hold Dak’s jock when it comes to QB.

And I don’t even like Dak that much.

Dumb comparison of that was the goal.
The whole league is throwing short  
WillieYoung : 9/28/2024 10:55 am : link
what an asinine thread
RE: Very interesting....  
Skully88 : 9/28/2024 11:03 am : link
In comment 16628051 rnargi said:
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Incidentally, 17 of Daks 21 completions were within 6 yards of the line of scrimmage.


Here is the difference between Jones and Dak.

In the tweet below Nabers is open out of the break, he cruises upfield for 3 steps before then ball arrives. When it finally does Nabers takes an unnecessary shot, which coincidentally wore on him as the game went on and Sy alluded to in his review.

If the ball arrives when Nabers is immediately open out of his break this is a longer gain and Nabers has the opportunity to evade the big hit.

Dak gets the ball there out of the break and gives his WR a chance at a bigger play. Jones’s pass is way too effing late.
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Skully88 : 9/28/2024 11:04 am : link
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In comment 16628051 rnargi said:


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Incidentally, 17 of Daks 21 completions were within 6 yards of the line of scrimmage.



Here is the difference between Jones and Dak.

In the tweet below Nabers is open out of the break, he cruises upfield for 3 steps before then ball arrives. When it finally does Nabers takes an unnecessary shot, which coincidentally wore on him as the game went on and Sy alluded to in his review.

If the ball arrives when Nabers is immediately open out of his break this is a longer gain and Nabers has the opportunity to evade the big hit.

Dak gets the ball there out of the break and gives his WR a chance at a bigger play. Jones’s pass is way too effing late. Link - ( New Window )



Actually I am wrong on this… Nabers takes seven steps before the ball arrives not 3.
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mako J : 9/28/2024 11:04 pm : link
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Incidentally, 17 of Daks 21 completions were within 6 yards of the line of scrimmage.



Here is the difference between Jones and Dak.

In the tweet below Nabers is open out of the break, he cruises upfield for 3 steps before then ball arrives. When it finally does Nabers takes an unnecessary shot, which coincidentally wore on him as the game went on and Sy alluded to in his review.

If the ball arrives when Nabers is immediately open out of his break this is a longer gain and Nabers has the opportunity to evade the big hit.

Dak gets the ball there out of the break and gives his WR a chance at a bigger play. Jones’s pass is way too effing late. Link - ( New Window )




Actually I am wrong on this… Nabers takes seven steps before the ball arrives not 3.


Watching the end zone view it looks like DJ waited until Nabers “cleared” #50. Once Nabers gets a few yards beyond him, DJ let it go. I don’t have the software required to record and share it.

Not making excuses. He needs to continue to improve on his timing and placement. Watching it from that view, I don’t think this play is your best example. He was late and threw to the wrong shoulder a couple of times on the same drive earlier in the game that limited YAC for Nabers and WDR. Also led to hits that a better ball may avoid. I do think Jones’ accuracy improved as the game went on.
RE: The whole league is throwing short  
BigBlueShock : 9/29/2024 8:03 am : link
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what an asinine thread

Daniel Jones is ranked 33rd in y/a this season. The rest of the league may be doing it due to the defenses strategy but Jones is in a different stratosphere.

Keep making excuses…
rent free..  
DefenseWins : 9/29/2024 8:24 am : link
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RE: The whole league is throwing short  
Anakim : 9/29/2024 8:29 am : link
In comment 16628989 WillieYoung said:
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what an asinine thread


That’s not true at all.
RE: rent free..  
BigBlueShock : 9/29/2024 8:36 am : link
In comment 16629987 DefenseWins said:
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Precious. You accepting mediocrity and wanting to keep your head buried in the sand is YOUR problem
RE: RE: The whole league is throwing short  
christian : 9/29/2024 9:49 am : link
In comment 16629989 Anakim said:
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what an asinine thread

That’s not true at all.

LOL. It's absolutely true, but that alone doesn't exonerate the Giants offense.
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These defensive adjustments may also explain other early trends in 2024. For instance, average air yards per pass attempt have dropped to 7.7 yards — the lowest in over a decade and nearly a full yard fewer than in 2019. Deep pass attempts — throws 20+ yards downfield — have decreased from 10.2 per game in 2019 to 7.7 per game in 2024.

Jones is actually 11th in the league in intended are yards per attempt at 7.4. While quarterbacks like Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Jackson, Cousins, Rodgers, and Mayfield are all below 7 IAY/PA.

The utilization of two-high safeties is changing the game.


The problem for the Giants is when the big plays are there Jones is throwing the ball into the ground.
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On top of all of this..  
bw in dc : 9/29/2024 11:09 am : link
I believe Jones is tied for 13th in the league in time to throw. Jones is getting a very healthy 2.8 seconds - on average - to execute.

Now, some of that # can be skewed for a mobile QB buying time, but I think most of the board believes the OL has done their job thus far giving Jones adequate pass protection.

So, he's got the time, but he's still settling for the easier throws.
 
christian : 9/29/2024 11:42 am : link
The league at large is trying to figure out how to contend with the two-high safety look. If Jones hits a wide open Slayton on Thursday he probably comes out of the weekend with a 2-2 record and in the top 10 in completed air yards in the league.
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