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Jones as the bridge or someone else

KraZee : 9/27/2024 6:09 pm
Honest question from me...I think that Jones is serviceable as a lower third QB in the league or top of the heap backup. Not what we want leading our team for much longer but a decent bridge guy to whoever is next. There are cap implications next year to keeping him on the roster ($40M+ hit or something close to that if he is the guy) and somewhat less but important cap implications to letting him go. Assume we are willing to absorb the $23M plus cap hit from cutting him after this season...would we rather go with a Russell Wilson, Jacoby Brissett, Gardnew Minshew or Sam Darnold types if they cost less than $17M for a 1 yr deal or is Jones the better bridge? Obviously this assumes we draft a QB this offseason we believe can be the next guy up with some seasoning. I'm kind of torn but thinking that we should cut bait no matter what. Thoughts?
I doubt they'll take that cap hit  
81_Great_Dane : 9/27/2024 6:11 pm : link
for a guy they view as a bridge QB. There are other guys out there for that role who won't eat up all that cap.
They should fucking cut Jones today  
Go Terps : 9/27/2024 6:11 pm : link
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Don’t want him anywhere near this  
ajr2456 : 9/27/2024 6:15 pm : link
Team.
RE: They should fucking cut Jones today  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/27/2024 6:17 pm : link
In comment 16628317 Go Terps said:
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But that would hurt Daniel’s feelings!
Cut Jones  
knowledgetimmons : 9/27/2024 6:20 pm : link
And we’ll be in QB hell. We’d actually start winning. Keep starting Jones he’s our only hope to deliver us the next Trevor Lawrence!
RE: They should fucking cut Jones today  
KraZee : 9/27/2024 6:22 pm : link
In comment 16628317 Go Terps said:
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Spoken out as a true lets move on from this guy perspective. Totally get it. I am also leaning into that. This year has a chance to be historically lousy. But what is better for next yr? Lets say by chance they get Quinn Ewers at the 4th pick of the draft (i don't want Shedeur under any scenario). Can we secure a bridge as good as Jones next yr for less than the gap between what it costs to cut him and what it costs to procure a decent enough replacement.
RE: Cut Jones  
jomanc : 9/27/2024 6:25 pm : link
In comment 16628325 knowledgetimmons said:
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And we’ll be in QB hell. We’d actually start winning. Keep starting Jones he’s our only hope to deliver us the next Trevor Lawrence!

love and totally agree with your logic. this is not the time to play a better mediocre QB who might win 3 more games than jones and then we win the pick 9 boobie prize for another Jones. We need the best QB prospect in the draft. Yes, all QB's are a coin flip, but we have to try. We certainly can stay with jones after this year.
I don’t understand the “bridge” role anymore  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2024 6:27 pm : link
to me it just means “guy that sucks until we find someone better”. Ours just happens to be paid well vs other teams’ bridge QB.
RE: RE: Cut Jones  
jomanc : 9/27/2024 6:27 pm : link
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And we’ll be in QB hell. We’d actually start winning. Keep starting Jones he’s our only hope to deliver us the next Trevor Lawrence!


love and totally agree with your logic. this is not the time to play a better mediocre QB who might win 3 more games than jones and then we win the pick 9 boobie prize for another Jones. We need the best QB prospect in the draft. Yes, all QB's are a coin flip, but we have to try. We certainly can stay with jones after this year.

correction CANT stay with Jones.
RE: I doubt they'll take that cap hit  
KraZee : 9/27/2024 6:28 pm : link
In comment 16628316 81_Great_Dane said:
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for a guy they view as a bridge QB. There are other guys out there for that role who won't eat up all that cap.


That is the rub. What QB comes here and at what cost to take on what is obviously a seat warmer job if we spend the rd 1 pick on a new QB that I hope we do. Look...Sam Darnold did that these last few yrs and it appears he is on his way to getting a much better contract next yr from someone who believes that he has finally found it. I doubt he has but understand those who think that way. If we had any QB pipeline right now with a guy in the wings we believed could be the next guy....this would be our bridge yr. Unfortunately no one including me thinks that Devito or Lock represent a future.
RE: I don’t understand the “bridge” role anymore  
KraZee : 9/27/2024 6:29 pm : link
In comment 16628332 UConn4523 said:
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to me it just means “guy that sucks until we find someone better”. Ours just happens to be paid well vs other teams’ bridge QB.


Yep. Bridge means bridge. A barely passable option until we are ready to deploy a better one. Something not on this current roster
There is no cap hit for cutting Jones next year  
BillT : 9/27/2024 6:32 pm : link
In fact, it’s a $19m cap savings.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/27/2024 6:39 pm : link
Listened to the Giants Insider Podcast earlier on the treadmill...Chris B. thinks Jones is a goner after this season. I think he's pretty plugged in. I know Duggan & others have said the same.
RE: They should fucking cut Jones today  
eric2425ny : 9/27/2024 6:39 pm : link
In comment 16628317 Go Terps said:
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DeVito throws a better deep ball. I’d still like to see him play with Nabers and the starting line to see what he can do.
RE: RE: I don’t understand the “bridge” role anymore  
UConn4523 : 9/27/2024 6:48 pm : link
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to me it just means “guy that sucks until we find someone better”. Ours just happens to be paid well vs other teams’ bridge QB.



Yep. Bridge means bridge. A barely passable option until we are ready to deploy a better one. Something not on this current roster


I disagree, Jones is passable, he’d be a really good backup. What bridge QBs are out there leading their teams to the playoffs every year? And if there are any, why are they being replaced?
He’s Not the Answer  
NJLCO : 9/27/2024 6:52 pm : link
Please bench him and move on
Draft a QB  
Gman11 : 9/27/2024 7:10 pm : link
in the first round even if they have to mortgage the rest of the draft to get him. Whatever they do with Jones other than start him is fine by me. Cut him? OK. Have him backup the rookie? OK.
I'd still consider trying to acquire Bryce Young  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/27/2024 7:24 pm : link
The QB's in next years draft are mediocre, so I'd try to get Young here now, cut Lock, put DeVito back on the PS. Use Jones until Young understands the game plan, then hand him the ball.
RE: I'd still consider trying to acquire Bryce Young  
81_Great_Dane : 9/27/2024 7:32 pm : link
In comment 16628373 Fishmanjim57 said:
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The QB's in next years draft are mediocre, so I'd try to get Young here now, cut Lock, put DeVito back on the PS. Use Jones until Young understands the game plan, then hand him the ball.
I haven't seen Bryce Young play in the pros. But is he an upgrade over anyone on the roster now?
Jones will almost certainly be cut after this season,  
BigBlueNH : 9/27/2024 7:34 pm : link
absent a miraculous turnaround in his performance. Those bad underthrows on every deep pass cannot be lived with, never mind his other flaws.

The next step depends on several things, including how they grade the available draft snd FA options. I expect they'll both draft a QB and sign a FA to compete/start the season. Jones will almost certainly not be here. His contract was structured to give us an out after this season.

To get back to answering the OP  
PatersonPlank : 9/27/2024 7:34 pm : link
The bridge QB needs to be cheap, I'm not sure DJ qualifies. I know we can get a QB that can do the same as Jones for much, much cheaper. However when rhe cap hit is taken into account I'd have to see the numbers. Maybe a capologist can chime in.

The thing that is clear is that we can get a game manager, like DJ, for much less.
What is it with Jones???  
HardTruth : 9/27/2024 8:03 pm : link
How can you stand to watch him another series?
We have to move on from him  
Jerry in_DC : 9/27/2024 8:12 pm : link
Jones is actually perfectly qualified to play that role. He should be several years into that phase of his career. But not here. There are still too many people in the organization and media who want to believe in him.

And as fans, we need to watch someone else.
Having the  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/27/2024 8:12 pm : link
Incumbent and replacement on the same team is a recipe for disaster. Cut Jones and save $19 million - replacement QB cost.
According to a poster on another thread  
HomerJones45 : 9/27/2024 8:14 pm : link
He should sleep with the fishes.
Draft  
Blueworm : 9/27/2024 8:15 pm : link
Cut
Draft
Cut

Until you get one.
RE: ...  
Sean : 9/27/2024 8:17 pm : link
In comment 16628347 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Listened to the Giants Insider Podcast earlier on the treadmill...Chris B. thinks Jones is a goner after this season. I think he's pretty plugged in. I know Duggan & others have said the same.

Remember what Schoen said to Poles, "must be nice not looking at the QBs..."
Giving Schoen and Mara Daniel Jones as a bridge  
Mike from Ohio : 9/27/2024 9:12 pm : link
Is like giving a crack rock to Tyrone Biggum and telling him to save it for later. You know they can’t help themselves.
RE: Giving Schoen and Mara Daniel Jones as a bridge  
knowledgetimmons : 9/27/2024 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16628521 Mike from Ohio said:
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Is like giving a crack rock to Tyrone Biggum and telling him to save it for later. You know they can’t help themselves.


lol, you win
Jones is gone after this year  
Woodstock : 9/27/2024 10:16 pm : link
The nightmare will finally be over
RE: Jones is gone after this year  
Scooter185 : 9/27/2024 10:20 pm : link
In comment 16628553 Woodstock said:
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The nightmare will finally be over


From your lips....
RE: RE: Jones is gone after this year  
Woodstock : 9/27/2024 10:25 pm : link
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The nightmare will finally be over



From your lips....


It's not from my lipd. I assure you the decision has been made. Of course, he could miraculously turn into Peyton Manning and change all that but we know that's not happening
*lips  
Woodstock : 9/27/2024 10:26 pm : link
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Leave him in  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/27/2024 10:39 pm : link
If you put Tommy Devito in we'll start winning again and you douchebags will start blaming Cutlets for blowing our draft pick again lol
RE: Jones is gone after this year  
bw in dc : 9/27/2024 10:42 pm : link
In comment 16628553 Woodstock said:
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The nightmare will finally be over


There was a lot of that talk during last season, too. And I was at the front of the line dreaming of a new beginning.

But then the QB with nine lives cashed in another and he's back behind center in 2024.

So, I'm not ready to rule him out of 2025. I think it's 50/50 right now...
RE: RE: RE: Jones is gone after this year  
Scooter185 : 9/27/2024 10:44 pm : link
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The nightmare will finally be over



From your lips....



It's not from my lipd. I assure you the decision has been made. Of course, he could miraculously turn into Peyton Manning and change all that but we know that's not happening


What're the odds that the nightmare ends prior to week 18?
RE: RE: Jones is gone after this year  
Woodstock : 9/27/2024 11:58 pm : link
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The nightmare will finally be over



There was a lot of that talk during last season, too. And I was at the front of the line dreaming of a new beginning.

But then the QB with nine lives cashed in another and he's back behind center in 2024.

So, I'm not ready to rule him out of 2025. I think it's 50/50 right now...


No. The decision is made. He's gone
RE: RE: RE: RE: Jones is gone after this year  
Woodstock : 9/27/2024 11:59 pm : link
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The nightmare will finally be over



From your lips....



It's not from my lipd. I assure you the decision has been made. Of course, he could miraculously turn into Peyton Manning and change all that but we know that's not happening



What're the odds that the nightmare ends prior to week 18?


I don't know. I certainly hope that's the case
Bridge  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/28/2024 12:04 am : link
Isn’t the word
RE: I'd still consider trying to acquire Bryce Young  
Gruber : 9/28/2024 3:32 am : link
In comment 16628373 Fishmanjim57 said:
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The QB's in next years draft are mediocre, so I'd try to get Young here now, cut Lock, put DeVito back on the PS. Use Jones until Young understands the game plan, then hand him the ball.


Bryce Young is the same height as Kyler Murray, without the quickness.
Bench him to avoid the injury clause,  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 9/28/2024 6:30 am : link
And hope you suck enough to draft Cam Ward. 4 TD passes last night.
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We can’t keep DJ as a bridge QB next year…  
JoeSchoens11 : 9/28/2024 6:33 am : link
if he keeps the injury clause that could affect ‘26. He would need to restructure for any chance to stay here for another year, which I doubt he would want if he thinks he can sign on with another team.
RE: Leave him in  
The Mike : 9/28/2024 7:32 am : link
In comment 16628595 Paulie Walnuts said:
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If you put Tommy Devito in we'll start winning again and you douchebags will start blaming Cutlets for blowing our draft pick again lol


This is the sad reality. Our best chance for a top three quarterback is to have DJ continue starting for as long as possible. Lock or Cutlets would likely inspire this team the same way Andy Dalton did for Carolina. Our best hope of getting the next Stroud or Daniels is to let DJ keep leading this team to losses.
ABD  
The Jake : 9/28/2024 7:40 am : link
Anyone but Daniel.

Unfortunately our franchise operates on more of a DNMW strategy.

Daniel, no matter what!
Jones has all the tools now  
DonnieD89 : 9/28/2024 8:05 am : link
to play with this offense, and yet, we still lost the Dallas, because he could not hit the ball. These receivers were wide open. I think his neck injury a factor in how he throws the deep balls, which I do not think is going to improve. Move onto another quarterback.
RE: They should fucking cut Jones today  
cosmicj : 9/28/2024 8:38 am : link
In comment 16628317 Go Terps said:
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+1. Not because of his talent, but the inability of the front office to view him objectively.
Hard to see DJ being a bridge  
56goat : 9/28/2024 8:55 am : link
Can you imagine the reaction he would get if he was put in a game? Better to make a clean break, start fresh.
They'll draft a QB first round in 2025  
Sean : 9/28/2024 8:57 am : link
But who knows if those prospects will be better than JJM/Penix.
RE: RE: RE: Jones is gone after this year  
JonC : 9/28/2024 8:58 am : link
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The nightmare will finally be over



There was a lot of that talk during last season, too. And I was at the front of the line dreaming of a new beginning.

But then the QB with nine lives cashed in another and he's back behind center in 2024.

So, I'm not ready to rule him out of 2025. I think it's 50/50 right now...



No. The decision is made. He's gone


I fookin hope so. Unbelievable it's gone this long.
RE: They should fucking cut Jones today  
4xchamps : 9/28/2024 9:43 am : link
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Glad you're not our GM.
RE: Cut Jones  
4xchamps : 9/28/2024 9:44 am : link
In comment 16628325 knowledgetimmons said:
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And we’ll be in QB hell. We’d actually start winning. Keep starting Jones he’s our only hope to deliver us the next Trevor Lawrence!


I don't want the next Trevor Lawrence. He's literally Daniel jones. Decent numbers but can't get in the end zone or win...
RE: RE: RE: I don’t understand the “bridge” role anymore  
4xchamps : 9/28/2024 9:45 am : link
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to me it just means “guy that sucks until we find someone better”. Ours just happens to be paid well vs other teams’ bridge QB.



Yep. Bridge means bridge. A barely passable option until we are ready to deploy a better one. Something not on this current roster



I disagree, Jones is passable, he’d be a really good backup. What bridge QBs are out there leading their teams to the playoffs every year? And if there are any, why are they being replaced?


Sam Darnold. 1 year contract and 100% gone next year...
RE: Jones has all the tools now  
4xchamps : 9/28/2024 9:47 am : link
In comment 16628832 DonnieD89 said:
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to play with this offense, and yet, we still lost the Dallas, because he could not hit the ball. These receivers were wide open. I think his neck injury a factor in how he throws the deep balls, which I do not think is going to improve. Move onto another quarterback.


LOL couldn't "hit the ball"? Maybe we need Aaron Judge??
Woodstock...  
bw in dc : 9/28/2024 9:59 am : link
Are you hearing anything new?




RE: Woodstock...  
Woodstock : 9/28/2024 11:14 am : link
In comment 16628916 bw in dc said:
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Are you hearing anything new?





Jones is done after this season. They wanted him to be the bridge QB this year. Next year. He won't be here.
*Next year he won't be here.  
Woodstock : 9/28/2024 11:15 am : link
Put a period in there by mistake
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