I got a dog from a shelter about 5 months ago. They said that they knew for sure the mom was a 40 pound labradoodle but did not know what the dad was.
That 20 pound puppy at 8 months is now a 60 pound tall wire haired brindle dog.
I decided to get an embark DNA test to figure out how big this dog might get because he was looking a lot like and getting mistaken for an Irish wolfhound puppy.
Just got the test results and it says 50 percent standard poodle, and about 25 percent American bully and 25% pit.
A bit surprised and don’t love the stigma attached but I am more confused why no Labrador would show up if they knew the mom was a labradoodle.
Has anyone had a similar experience with these dna tests. They say they are 99% accurate but I don’t get where the Labrador part went.
Where did the shelter get its info: from whoever turned the dogs in.
And the shelter wants the dogs to be adopted. So what label does it have the incentive to use?
The problem isn't with the test.
The test results did show poodle, as advertised.
The problem is with the other half.
The test results did show poodle, as advertised.
The problem is with the other half.
That's what I mean. The most logical combination is 100% poodle on side A and American/Pit on side B.
If someone was confident side A was a labradoodle, they are either lying or don't know what a poodle is.
A labradoodle and a standard poodle are not easily confused.
It is true it could have been falsely represented at some point, but they were very sure they had the whole history.
I had a lab before and this dog had some very lab like qualities. There is nothing about this dog that looks like a bully or a bit except the white chest. Got most of the poodle look.
DNA shows that she is
- Boxer
- Pitt bull
- German Pointer
- Australian Cattle Dog
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A labradoodle and a standard poodle are not easily confused.
My dog is a rescue Labradoodle and gets confused for a poodle often. I believe a labradoodle is 75% poodle, 25% lab. Also the dog DNA tests are not accurate.
both mixed breed rescues. Plus only a couple sites are reputable and even still not listed as always accurate - Embark and maybe Wisdom Panel. Did you use one of them?
One of my dogs is listed as a Corgie/Jack Russell mix and the other as a "known" Rottweiler/Shepherd mix.
You can see that in both. various physical and behavioral traits of both dogs.
So, when my kids always asked to do a DNA test I just felt like, why? it's not like known diseases matter once they're no longer purebred. You can't tell even with DNA which diseases will pass down, you don't know even with DNA which behavioral traits will be dominant and having the stigma of a pitbull and anything ever happening with my dog and a neighbor/or anyone is not something I wanted to live with.
So, in this case blissful ignorance is preferable. I saw someone once joke "I did a DNA test and my dog is 100% good boy" that's how I feel.
Also though, if you look into DNA testing for mixed specialty breeds, especially "doodles" you see something like this, when initially bred the doodle DNA for a labradoodle was 50% lab, 50% poodle, but after decades or in some cases centuries of breeding the DNA often comes back as almost 100% poodle or 100% lab.
Lastly, any dog thread should require pictures.
Cooper (big dog) and Rosie (little dog).
My dog is a rescue Labradoodle and gets confused for a poodle often. I believe a labradoodle is 75% poodle, 25% lab. Also the dog DNA tests are not accurate.
Have you ever had a DNA test on your dog and confirmed your dog is that ratio?
Visually if the mix is less lab than poodle, I think it's perfectly reasonable for someone to misidentify the dog as a purebred poodle.
The other way is less believable. A purebred adult standard poodle (which the DNA test appears to indicate) is a pretty distinctive dog. That someone saw a purebred standard poodle and thought it was a labradoodle is a pretty silly error.
both mixed breed rescues. Plus only a couple sites are reputable and even still not listed as always accurate - Embark and maybe Wisdom Panel. Did you use one of them?
One of my dogs is listed as a Corgie/Jack Russell mix and the other as a "known" Rottweiler/Shepherd mix.
You can see that in both. various physical and behavioral traits of both dogs.
So, when my kids always asked to do a DNA test I just felt like, why? it's not like known diseases matter once they're no longer purebred. You can't tell even with DNA which diseases will pass down, you don't know even with DNA which behavioral traits will be dominant and having the stigma of a pitbull and anything ever happening with my dog and a neighbor/or anyone is not something I wanted to live with.
So, in this case blissful ignorance is preferable. I saw someone once joke "I did a DNA test and my dog is 100% good boy" that's how I feel.
Also though, if you look into DNA testing for mixed specialty breeds, especially "doodles" you see something like this, when initially bred the doodle DNA for a labradoodle was 50% lab, 50% poodle, but after decades or in some cases centuries of breeding the DNA often comes back as almost 100% poodle or 100% lab.
Lastly, any dog thread should require pictures.
Cooper (big dog) and Rosie (little dog).
I went with embark. My main reason for doing it was that this puppy who we thought would be around 50 pounds is already close to 60 at 8 months and keeps getting confused for an Irish wolfhound—really looks like one. I wanted to know if I have a giant breed so I could prepare for another year of growing and health concerns.
So no wolfhound and Embark does predict an adult size of 73 pounds. That is helpful.
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why I haven't done one on either of my dogs.
both mixed breed rescues. Plus only a couple sites are reputable and even still not listed as always accurate - Embark and maybe Wisdom Panel. Did you use one of them?
One of my dogs is listed as a Corgie/Jack Russell mix and the other as a "known" Rottweiler/Shepherd mix.
You can see that in both. various physical and behavioral traits of both dogs.
So, when my kids always asked to do a DNA test I just felt like, why? it's not like known diseases matter once they're no longer purebred. You can't tell even with DNA which diseases will pass down, you don't know even with DNA which behavioral traits will be dominant and having the stigma of a pitbull and anything ever happening with my dog and a neighbor/or anyone is not something I wanted to live with.
So, in this case blissful ignorance is preferable. I saw someone once joke "I did a DNA test and my dog is 100% good boy" that's how I feel.
Also though, if you look into DNA testing for mixed specialty breeds, especially "doodles" you see something like this, when initially bred the doodle DNA for a labradoodle was 50% lab, 50% poodle, but after decades or in some cases centuries of breeding the DNA often comes back as almost 100% poodle or 100% lab.
Lastly, any dog thread should require pictures.
Cooper (big dog) and Rosie (little dog).
I went with embark. My main reason for doing it was that this puppy who we thought would be around 50 pounds is already close to 60 at 8 months and keeps getting confused for an Irish wolfhound—really looks like one. I wanted to know if I have a giant breed so I could prepare for another year of growing and health concerns.
So no wolfhound and Embark does predict an adult size of 73 pounds. That is helpful.
how big were his paws? My vet looked at our Shepherd/Rottweiler rescue at 12 weeks (when we got him) and said "wow he's going to be 75/80 pounds" when fully grown.
He's 76 pounds exactly and he's 3 and a half. Not sure if that's a foolproof or exact method, but it happened to be right in our case. This is what Cooper looked like at 12 weeks. look at those paws, lol. Sometimes I guess looking at physical characteristics is a better predictor of size than linking to breed - maybe even more so with mixes - short of DNA testing with someone like Embark.
Great dog. My poodle wheaten mix of 15 pounds is in charge and the one who listens less. The puppy is a little too rough at times but more so because he got puppy energy.
Anyway, my vet asked if I was thinking of having a DNA test done and I said no, I didn't really care what he was.
She then said that's good because the DNA test could come back saying he was a Rottweiler.
I would assume/hope that canine DNA tests have gotten better since then.
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A labradoodle and a standard poodle are not easily confused.
My dog is a rescue Labradoodle and gets confused for a poodle often. I believe a labradoodle is 75% poodle, 25% lab. Also the dog DNA tests are not accurate.
Have you ever had a DNA test on your dog and confirmed your dog is that ratio?
Visually if the mix is less lab than poodle, I think it's perfectly reasonable for someone to misidentify the dog as a purebred poodle.
The other way is less believable. A purebred adult standard poodle (which the DNA test appears to indicate) is a pretty distinctive dog. That someone saw a purebred standard poodle and thought it was a labradoodle is a pretty silly error.
I have not done a DNA test. When she is freshly groomed she looks more like a poodle. As her hair grows out, you notice more of the lab (it doesn't curl). I've seen her puppies and her mate from before she was rescued from the puppy mill, to me there isn't a question.