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What I think of the QBs in College

charles355 : 9/28/2024 11:29 am
those are my early college football notes.. very raw

Carson Beck (I don't see it with him, not a top 10 pick, the team is stacked and today vs Alabama will be a great test)

Shedeur Sanders (pure passer, but Deion comes with him...)

Quinn Ewers (fragile, clutch but inconsistent I would not take him in round 1)

Cameron Ward (reminds me a bit of Justin Fields with more leadership and cooler demeanor, needs to process faster)

Jaxson Dart (still discovering this guy, can't wait for his team to face better competition so he needs to play great in adversity)

Jalen Milroe (Jalen Hurts, a great game vs Georgia will help his stock, great arm, awesome mobility, good guy)

Miller Moss (Purdy kind of prospect, limited tools but not a lot of upside. Not the kind of player you draft round 1, but will start at the next level or be a teaser boderline starter, awesome backup)

Drew Allar (strong arm, mobile enough, Ohio State game will tell us if he's top 10 material or round 2-3. I'm interested and I think he could become a very good starter at the next level, but he must play with more urgency)

Conner Weigman ... wildcard has the tools, I need to see more! I see a very poor's Texas Tech Mahomes kind of player under the radar

I suspect our draft position will be around 4-8

The good thing is we can trade down at 10 or even more and still get one of those guys

1- Drew Allar (if Daboll is back, he will be the choice)
2- Jalen Milroe
3- Cameron Ward

what do you guys think?
QB  
Hilary : 9/28/2024 11:47 am : link
Allar was horrible against Michigan last year. Not accurate at all.

Evaluate Shedeur on his merits. I would not worry at all about his dad.
Interesting summary  
M.S. : 9/28/2024 11:51 am : link

on an extremely relevant topic since the Giants will be parting ways with their incumbent QB after the season.

A note about your statement: "The good thing is we can trade down at 10 or even more and still get one of those guys."

In late September this statement is very true. But in 5-6 months, two or three QBs will have separated themselves from the pack... so much so that it will force the Giants to give up significant trade capital to trade up, not down. Unless of course they only win 2 or 3 games in which case they could just sit tight.

As for the prospects, my eye is set on Cam Ward. On another thread I said that several NFL teams will fall in love with his Aaron Rodgers-esque three-quarters gun-slinger flick delivery.
Another  
Toth029 : 9/28/2024 11:53 am : link
Target is LSU's Garrett Nussmeier.
Don’t want Allar  
jeff57 : 9/28/2024 11:54 am : link
I like Dart but need to see more.
I think you are severly underestimating Back, Ward, and Ewers  
PatersonPlank : 9/28/2024 12:44 pm : link
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Don’t see anyone I like better than Penix from last year  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/28/2024 12:57 pm : link
Hoping Milroe can elevate his game like Penix did with Daboer
I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss Beck  
Section331 : 9/28/2024 12:57 pm : link
due to the talent around him. I think he’s as good a prospect as any. Good arm, smart, decent athlete. If GA has so much talent, why do we think that doesn’t also extend to the QB position? The backup is a 5-star recruit, if Beck was so meh, why wouldn’t Stockton be starting?
Disagree with the Ward critique  
GiantGrit : 9/28/2024 1:10 pm : link
He’s shown an ability to make full field progressions, he can use different arm angles to get the ball out quickly and watching last night he has the ability to throw with velocity or with touch.

My issue with Ward is that he plays a bit too relaxed, similar in a sense to a young Patrick Mahomes. It benefits him by staying cool under pressure but he’ll also force plays and not know when to chuck it out of bounds. Last night was the first time he played a decent defense and he had some brainfarts; his early fumble in his own territory was brutal. Tried throwing an incomplete pass while being tackled to mitigate maybe a 3-5 yard loss but ended up fumbling it and giving Va Tech the ball. I see a double edged sword there but Daboll could be very dangerous with him.

His best drive was his last, which I loved. Made about 3 wow plays when they needed it.
RE: QB  
UConn4523 : 9/28/2024 1:11 pm : link
In comment 16629082 Hilary said:
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Allar was horrible against Michigan last year. Not accurate at all.

Evaluate Shedeur on his merits. I would not worry at all about his dad.


Why do you think teams should just ignore his father? It’s one of the larger red flags in recent memory IMO.
Interesting to me  
GiantGrit : 9/28/2024 1:11 pm : link
Will Rogers gets no press. Had a solid career at Miss State and now gets a year with Jedd Fisch. Not sure how he played last night but I that he’s really cut down on the turnovers.
Arizona's Fifita  
Adam G in Big D : 9/28/2024 1:15 pm : link
He can fling it for a Smurf.
RE: Arizona's Fifita  
Mike in NY : 9/28/2024 1:18 pm : link
In comment 16629183 Adam G in Big D said:
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He can fling it for a Smurf.


He was easily defensed against Kansas State. Don’t see scheme diversity in the NFL.
RE: I think you are severly underestimating Back, Ward, and Ewers  
Mike in NY : 9/28/2024 1:20 pm : link
In comment 16629146 PatersonPlank said:
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Ward and Ewers I agree op is underrating. I think op is also overrating Sanders. Not sure I see an NFL starter in Beck.
Last night worries me a bit with Ward  
BlueHurricane : 9/28/2024 2:04 pm : link
But he is my choice. I watched CJ Stroud shit all over himself vs Maryland his last year college so one game does not kill Ward for me. He is the one I want.
RE: RE: Arizona's Fifita  
Mike from Ohio : 9/28/2024 2:21 pm : link
In comment 16629188 Mike in NY said:
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He can fling it for a Smurf.



He was easily defensed against Kansas State. Don’t see scheme diversity in the NFL.


I love Arizona and I watch all of their games. Fifita is likely not an NFL QB. He is very small and has piled up stats because of his strong rapport with T-Mac. He is good at the college level, but I don’t see him as a viable NFL prospect.
Looking forward to seeing Beck vs. Milroe tonight  
Mike from Ohio : 9/28/2024 2:22 pm : link
Both going against very good defenses.
RE: Another  
GoDeep13 : 9/28/2024 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16629091 Toth029 said:
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Target is LSU's Garrett Nussmeier.
His footwork is so damn good. Guy is VERY good at the little things. Been rewatching his games and I've real impressed
RE: Last night worries me a bit with Ward  
JFIB : 9/28/2024 4:53 pm : link
In comment 16629218 BlueHurricane said:
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But he is my choice. I watched CJ Stroud shit all over himself vs Maryland his last year college so one game does not kill Ward for me. He is the one I want.


This is how I feel as well. I think Cam Ward has it. Nussmeir is my close second.
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I am Ninja : 9/28/2024 6:10 pm : link
whoever the pick is, itll be the wrong one.
RE: RE: QB  
DefenseWins : 9/28/2024 6:39 pm : link
In comment 16629179 UConn4523 said:
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Allar was horrible against Michigan last year. Not accurate at all.

Evaluate Shedeur on his merits. I would not worry at all about his dad.



Why do you think teams should just ignore his father? It’s one of the larger red flags in recent memory IMO.


I agree... and IMO he brings a circus to town
RE: RE: RE: QB  
BigBlueShock : 9/28/2024 7:11 pm : link
In comment 16629476 DefenseWins said:
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Allar was horrible against Michigan last year. Not accurate at all.

Evaluate Shedeur on his merits. I would not worry at all about his dad.



Why do you think teams should just ignore his father? It’s one of the larger red flags in recent memory IMO.



I agree... and IMO he brings a circus to town

I hate to break it to you but the circus is already in town. Has been for awhile. It’s a complete clown show but hey, at least they are a bunch of choir boys! We have that goin for us!
How the hell do you forget...  
bw in dc : 9/28/2024 7:22 pm : link
Garrett Nussmeier?
RE: RE: RE: RE: QB  
DefenseWins : 9/28/2024 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16629502 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16629082 Hilary said:


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Allar was horrible against Michigan last year. Not accurate at all.

Evaluate Shedeur on his merits. I would not worry at all about his dad.



Why do you think teams should just ignore his father? It’s one of the larger red flags in recent memory IMO.



I agree... and IMO he brings a circus to town


I hate to break it to you but the circus is already in town. Has been for awhile. It’s a complete clown show but hey, at least they are a bunch of choir boys! We have that goin for us!


Dont confuse the clown show for the circus
I like  
igotyourbackman : 9/28/2024 7:59 pm : link
Milroe. Tough kid
Milroe is a smaller version...  
bw in dc : 9/28/2024 8:01 pm : link
of Josh Allen.
Miller Moss is a media creation.  
Burst Bubble 25 : 9/28/2024 9:56 pm : link
Would love to see Ewers or Ward in Blue so far from what I've seen. Lots of football to be played this year.
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