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giantsfanforlife : 9/28/2024 5:31 pm
More than likely the Giants will select a quarterback and we will be picking high again. At least Schoen/Daboll will have the opportunity to get their guy in the draft. The new quarterback will come into a situation where the offensive line is playing well with receivers in Naber, Robinson, Slayton, & Hyatt (not sure if Slayton will be back); hopefully at the end of the year Johnson develops into a good tight end with Tracy/Singletary as the running backs. I am not sure what happen with Bellinger (hasn't been same player since his eye injury), but if he doesn't get used more and progress, we should get another tight end. I also don't think it hurts to get another receiver as well, especially if slayton doesn't come back. On Defense, adding a corner & anther defensive tackle will definitely be a priority heading into the offseason. I think heading into 2025 season, us fans will have something to look forward to. I do think Daboll/Schoen will come back next season & if they draft a quarterback, you gotta give them till 2026. You have to have some continuity & can't keep getting rid of guys every 2-3 year prior to this current staff.

As for the current season, still alot of football left & anything can happen, just have to hope for the best.
Need a QB and more help on DL and OL  
giantstock : 9/28/2024 5:37 pm : link
The QB you get you have to get him th utmost protection., And this OL has not been good running teh ball thus they will blitz heavy with our new QB next year. And we don't have a lot of depth either.

So teh 3 most important spots are QB and the trenches OL and DL.

The hell with the TEe until later rounds. Same with RB.
If they can hit on a QB  
Biteymax22 : 9/28/2024 5:42 pm : link
In the 2025 draft there can be a Texans-like turnaround. The big question is whether Schoen and Daboll would still be here?
RE: Need a QB and more help on DL and OL  
giantsfanforlife : 9/28/2024 5:43 pm : link
In comment 16629433 giantstock said:
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The QB you get you have to get him th utmost protection., And this OL has not been good running teh ball thus they will blitz heavy with our new QB next year. And we don't have a lot of depth either.

So teh 3 most important spots are QB and the trenches OL and DL.

The hell with the TEe until later rounds. Same with RB.


Run blocking needs to get better, but pass protection has been solid. And nothing wrong with adding more offensive line with this group we have.
RE: If they can hit on a QB  
giantsfanforlife : 9/28/2024 5:44 pm : link
In comment 16629439 Biteymax22 said:
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In the 2025 draft there can be a Texans-like turnaround. The big question is whether Schoen and Daboll would still be here?


If Burns can be more consistent and has a great year, then I think we should get another defensive tackle to help Dexter Lawrence.
I'm starting to lose faith in Schoen or the process  
ConsistentGiantFan : 9/28/2024 5:49 pm : link
that delvers talent evaluations.
I'm not sure I trust him in making the selection of the next QB.
RE: I'm starting to lose faith in Schoen or the process  
giantsfanforlife : 9/28/2024 5:52 pm : link
In comment 16629448 ConsistentGiantFan said:
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that delvers talent evaluations.
I'm not sure I trust him in making the selection of the next QB.


I agree Schoen had made mistakes, but if you going to give Dave Gettleman 4 years, you gotta give him 4 years as well (maybe 5 if they get their quarterback in the draft). And like I mention, there has to be some continuity & can't fire people left and right.
RE: RE: Need a QB and more help on DL and OL  
giantstock : 9/28/2024 6:16 pm : link
In comment 16629440 giantsfanforlife said:
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In comment 16629433 giantstock said:


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The QB you get you have to get him th utmost protection., And this OL has not been good running teh ball thus they will blitz heavy with our new QB next year. And we don't have a lot of depth either.

So teh 3 most important spots are QB and the trenches OL and DL.

The hell with the TEe until later rounds. Same with RB.



Run blocking needs to get better, but pass protection has been solid. And nothing wrong with adding more offensive line with this group we have.


+1.
Yes. Thats all I'm saying.
This break before the next game would be a perfect time....  
Fishmanjim57 : 9/28/2024 6:39 pm : link
To reach out to Carolina and acquire Bryce Young. Bring him to the Giants, cut Lock, send cutlets back to PS. This way Young could learn the Giants system, get in touch with the WR's and TE's, to prepare himself to take over when Daboll has seen enough from Jones.
I know I'm gonna get shouted down for this post, but I'd prefer having Young as the next QB rather than those who'll be available in the next draft.
RE: RE: I'm starting to lose faith in Schoen or the process  
gridirony : 9/28/2024 8:06 pm : link
In comment 16629449 giantsfanforlife said:
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In comment 16629448 ConsistentGiantFan said:


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that delvers talent evaluations.
I'm not sure I trust him in making the selection of the next QB.



I agree Schoen had made mistakes, but if you going to give Dave Gettleman 4 years, you gotta give him 4 years as well (maybe 5 if they get their quarterback in the draft). And like I mention, there has to be some continuity & can't fire people left and right.
Giving Gettleman 4 years was a huge mistake. So, your logic says the Giants should double down on possibly committing another huge error, because of that mistake? Please apply for a management job with the team, highlighting your brilliant deductive reasoning skills.
RE: This break before the next game would be a perfect time....  
crooza172 : 9/28/2024 9:39 pm : link
In comment 16629475 Fishmanjim57 said:
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To reach out to Carolina and acquire Bryce Young. Bring him to the Giants, cut Lock, send cutlets back to PS. This way Young could learn the Giants system, get in touch with the WR's and TE's, to prepare himself to take over when Daboll has seen enough from Jones.
I know I'm gonna get shouted down for this post, but I'd prefer having Young as the next QB rather than those who'll be available in the next draft.


You must not watch college football. Ward and Milroe and light years better than Bryce Young.
Don’t forget CB….greatly needed as well…..  
Simms11 : 9/28/2024 10:00 pm : link
I’d say three biggest needs QB, DL and CB, followed by RB, WR and TE.
RE: This break before the next game would be a perfect time....  
4xchamps : 9/28/2024 10:44 pm : link
In comment 16629475 Fishmanjim57 said:
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To reach out to Carolina and acquire Bryce Young. Bring him to the Giants, cut Lock, send cutlets back to PS. This way Young could learn the Giants system, get in touch with the WR's and TE's, to prepare himself to take over when Daboll has seen enough from Jones.
I know I'm gonna get shouted down for this post, but I'd prefer having Young as the next QB rather than those who'll be available in the next draft.


Oh please... we don't need a short, damaged QB with small hands....
Giants will probably have a mediocre - NOT BAD - record  
Bob in Newburgh : 9/29/2024 9:51 am : link
So I am not sure where this surefire DJ upgrade is coming from.

I base the opening on my belief that we could just as well have opened 3-1 as 1-3.

Not claiming this is where I want to be, but rather where I think we actually are.
RE: RE: I'm starting to lose faith in Schoen or the process  
Ivan15 : 9/29/2024 11:46 am : link
In comment 16629449 giantsfanforlife said:
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In comment 16629448 ConsistentGiantFan said:


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that delvers talent evaluations.
I'm not sure I trust him in making the selection of the next QB.



I agree Schoen had made mistakes, but if you going to give Dave Gettleman 4 years, you gotta give him 4 years as well (maybe 5 if they get their quarterback in the draft). And like I mention, there has to be some continuity & can't fire people left and right.
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If Gettleman had hit on the QB, he might still be the GM.
can we give schoen a year  
Wiggy : 9/29/2024 12:18 pm : link
but ditch the dead weight at HC?
RE: Giants will probably have a mediocre - NOT BAD - record  
giantstock : 9/29/2024 7:25 pm : link
In comment 16630029 Bob in Newburgh said:
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So I am not sure where this surefire DJ upgrade is coming from.

I base the opening on my belief that we could just as well have opened 3-1 as 1-3.

Not claiming this is where I want to be, but rather where I think we actually are.


We are actually 1-3. And there is a good chance Jones wont be the QB at the end 3/4 games. They aren't 3-1. They are 1-3.
Schoen needs to make 2 or 3 great Day 2 picks  
Bill in UT : 9/29/2024 8:23 pm : link
on Day 3
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