I thought...with the mediocre play especially on play making opportunities, the long lay off, the ongoing threat of a DJ injury (and implications of cutting him next offseason)...
that we may have heard of a switch to Lock by now.
Did any of you have any anticipation of this?
Or do you think we will continue to trudge along, scoring 14 a game en route to a 4-13 record and the cloud of another DJ injury looming?
Note: I can't say I have much faith in either backup but at least Lock has arm talent and it eliminates the DJ injury risk.
We need a better QB, but the answer is not on the roster and won't be here this season.
This is a serious question.
Once the playoffs are decidedly mathematically out of reach, I do believe they will go to Lock. Or if DJ's play regresses from here and he starts turning the ball over a lot.
I don't expect the Giants will bench a healthy Jones until they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, and possibly not even then.
Jones is kaput!
Draft / Acquire your next QB after the season.
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I think it'll be after the German game though.
Jones is kaput!
Wow are the German references on BBI going to be something the week before and after that game!
This is a serious question.
Not much.
Does he have a better arm? Absolutely. That's his calling card.
Is he the "solution"? Who knows. His NFL track record is also mediocre.
But as I said:
-you do add more of a deep threat presence to the offense (something sorely missing)
-you do eliminate the risk of another DJ injury
-somewhat debatable, but you have given DJ a fair shake w a quarter of the season with actual NFL talent, something he rarely could say prior to this year
And given the organization's absurdly low standards, Jones will be the week 1 starter in 2025.
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I think it'll be after the German game though.
Jones is kaput!
Wow are the German references on BBI going to be something the week before and after that game!
Someone's getting bombed
Gotta talk about something besides meal prep
Jones isn't the problem. He's been ok. No better than ok, but ok. He's not in line to be benched.
The thing with Jones is, he's not the solution, either — unless he shows dramatic improvement over the rest of the season.
I’m old so my memory may be slipping.
That is how it works in Giant land
That said, it's not happening unless Jones is in a pile and doesn't get up. There are too many people in high places professionally invested in DJ for them to give up now and say to the world that they didn't know WTF they were doing.
Jones isn't the problem. He's been ok. No better than ok, but ok. He's not in line to be benched.
The thing with Jones is, he's not the solution, either — unless he shows dramatic improvement over the rest of the season.
if he gets hurt again his contract injury guarantees in his contract would kick in making it more expensive to cut him. if the Giants are playing bad, he's getting benched a la Russell Wilson in Denver last year.
This is a serious question.
His contract, and even that is for what it lacks (2025 injury guarantee) rather than what it contains.
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is if he gets hurt again, which is not a farfetched proposition.
if he gets hurt again his contract injury guarantees in his contract would kick in making it more expensive to cut him. if the Giants are playing bad, he's getting benched a la Russell Wilson in Denver last year.
He would have to not be able to pass a physical next March (I believe that’s the timeframe) in order for the guarantee to kick in. So it would likely need to be a season ending injury that also requires surgery, not a short term injury.
The Mets churned through a ton of guys this season. They opened the season with Joey Wendell as backup IF, DJ Stewart as backup OF, and Brett Baty starting at 3B. When they didn't perform, Stearns brought in different guys, especially in the bullpen. Iglesias, Winker, Vientos, all upgrades. Megill and other guys were sent down to work on their game — and they improved. Steve Cohen is on TV talking about how they were always "raising the floor." That's what the Giants aren't doing.
(I don't know the Yankees, Rangers, Islanders, Devils or Nets well enough to bring them into the conversation.)
I know the NFL is a different game but the Giants are more patient, to their detriment. They flippped Kadarius Toney. Maybe flip more guys? Do you get value? Maybe not, but you get a guy who's not working out for you off your team, and get assets back in return. Could they flip Evan Neal? Probably. Jalin Hyatt? Maybe.
Can a trade backfire? Sure, but standing pat with a crummy hand isn't a path to victory. If your guys