Welcome to today’s doubleheader thread against the Braves (88-72) in Atlanta.
Both games will be on this same thread. The Mets (88-72) have been competitive against the Bravos so far this season.
They’ve got a record of 5-6 against the Braves so far in 2024. The Braves, like the Mets, have a magic number of 1 to make the playoffs. Each team needs to win one of these two games to qualify for the N.L. Playoffs. If one side gets swept today, then the D-backs will make the playoffs in their stead. Click
HERE to read an up-to-date article about the playoff chances for the Mets, Braves, & Diamondbacks. Click
HERE to read a preview of this critical doubleheader. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets @ Braves: Game 1 –⚾Megill (R) vs. Schwellenbach (R)⚾– 1:10 pm EDT
Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today in Atlanta against the Braves for Game #1 & #2 (as of now).
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Notes:
-Today’s first game will be televised on
SNY as will the second game. Both games will also be on
ESPN2.
-The weather forecast for today's game at Truist Park, unlike last time, is pretty good. There might be some showers about an hour into the game, but they’ll probably play through them unless they’re heavy. Click
HERE to keep updated & see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-The Mets, Braves, & D-backs are in a three-team race for the last two N.L. Wild Card spots. As of the start of play today, the Mets are tied with the Braves record-wise; the Mets would be the #6 seed in the N.L. Playoffs if they were to start today & the Braves would be the #5 seed. The D-backs would be on the outside looking in. If the Mets finish the regular season tied with the D-backs, the Mets would make the playoffs over them since
they won the season series against them, 4 games to 3. Click
HERE to see the current Wild Card standings for both the American & National Leagues. The Mets are 16-8 so far in September. Bottom line: all that the Mets need to do to make the playoffs is to win one of these two games today.
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HERE to see the list of the Mets’ roster transactions so far in September.
-Click
HERE to see the Mets' 28-man active roster.
-The Mets' 5-man bench for today’s first game will consist of
Torrens (R), Marte (R), Acuña (R), Winker (L), & E. Alvarez (L).
-reading between the lines it sure sounds like there is some level of frustration with Senga
I wonder what Mets would have done if they had lost game 1 but won game 2. Think they might've called up McLean and Tidwell to each go all out and throw 2-3 innings each?
Part me was trying to figure out a way that Mets can hold Manaea back until Game 3 or Philly if they win tonight, but the pitching rest situation doesn't really work, so he has to go either way tomorrow. Mets would have to throw Peterson/Quintana in Philly versus Philly's two aces which would be dicey, but leave Mets with a real advantage coming back to Citi Field if they can split.
No to both Tidwell and McLean. Both would have had to be added to the 40 man roster despite neither being close to MLB ready. If they they 100% needed a SP it likely would have been Mike Vasil, who has to be added to the 40 man or exposed to the rule 5 in November either way.
I go SP:
1. Sevy
2. Manaea
3. Quintana
4. Peterson (if needed in relief game 3)
Lineup and bench:
Lindor
Iglesias
Vientos
Nimmo
Alonso
Martinez
Marte
Alvarez
Taylor
Torrens
Acuna
Bader
Baty
Winker (Stewart if Winker can't go)
So, 14 position players and 4 SPs leaves me with 8 relievers
Diaz
Butto
Maton
Garrett
Stanek
D. Young
Otto
Brazoban
ideally that roster slot could go to someone who could eat innings today if they get behind early with Maton/Diaz both down. but i guess since game 2 would be all hands on deck butto, garrett, stanek, otto, young should be enough to get through 5-6 innings if necessary. could probably get 4-5 out of stanek/otto/young.
Sorry Dan, I meant Sproat/Tidwell not McLean. I'm guessing your point still stands because of 40-man roster mechanics?
If you're trying to go and win a playoff game in a best of 3 series, starting Vasil and his 6+ AAA ERA over 130 innings this year seems like a white flag. Tidwell wasn't really better (actually has a worse FIP yikes) but at least some hope his stuff would play up?
Either way, glad this is a hypothetical and we have Severino tonight.
ideally that roster slot could go to someone who could eat innings today if they get behind early with Maton/Diaz both down. but i guess since game 2 would be all hands on deck butto, garrett, stanek, otto, young should be enough to get through 5-6 innings if necessary. could probably get 4-5 out of stanek/otto/young.
Good point. Alex Young might be a consideration instead of Brazoban. Or if Winker can't go, could even go with Young as the 9th bullpen arm instead of Stewart. And go with a 4 man bench.
So, Winker doesn't count? Young can't be on the initial 26 man?
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Young can only replace an injured P FWIW.
So, Winker doesn't count? Young can't be on the initial 26 man?
That is correct. Young was optioned, he has to be down for 10 days unless he replaces an injured pitcher.
@ByRobertMurray
Justin Verlander is not on the Houston Astros’ wild card roster.
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Gary Phillips
@GaryHPhillips
This is a brutally honest answer from an owner. Ken Kendrick also called the Jordan Montgomery signing "a horrible decision" & "our biggest mistake this season from a talent standpoint."
Montgomery recorded a 6.23 ERA in his first season with the #Diamondbacks & was demoted to the bullpen. The ex-#Yankees SP has a $22.5 million player option.
Definitely would be worth a flier if AZ pays some of his salary, or gives prospects. Decent bet that the late signing effected him this season.
Gary Phillips
@GaryHPhillips
This is a brutally honest answer from an owner. Ken Kendrick also called the Jordan Montgomery signing "a horrible decision" & "our biggest mistake this season from a talent standpoint."
Montgomery recorded a 6.23 ERA in his first season with the #Diamondbacks & was demoted to the bullpen. The ex-#Yankees SP has a $22.5 million player option.
if they lose manaea or severino he'd be the perfect buy low. maybe even swap marte for him?
add in marte and im in.
gotta clear RF for you know who.
As a DH that only faces righties, he would be a great asset.
Yeah, he's an interesting arm. Just weird he wasn't called up at all when they expanded rosters and now he is on the postseason roster.
I’d see if Willy Adames would be willing to move to 3B, move Vientos to 1B, let Pete walk. Adames seems like he’d be a great clubhouse fit, I have concerns about that with Soto.
Phuq them. I wish them the worst. Filthy organization. MLB should've had the power to take over in that situation.
New York Mets Announce 2024 Wild Card Roster Posted by Evan Mazza | Oct 1, 2024 - ( New Window )
also probably no reason for baty unless injury occurs anyway, in which case i believe they would be able to activate him for the next game anyway?
glad winker didnt have to get subbed for DJ. hopefully he is healthy and ready to get back to doing what he did in August.
@TJStats
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Max Kranick was effective in AAA this season, posting a 3.57 ERA in 63.0 IP
In September he scrapped the sinker and increased the curveball usage. It's awesome to see him get a chance during the playoffsz and hopefully his stuff plays well out of the Mets bullpen
i doubt they'd even put him in if things are going well TBH. i think it's exclusively an option for today if they get completely boat raced early.
I will just say this. I can't think of a team in the playoff field that's faced more adversity in terms of injury, schedule quirks and overall overall performance. This team was 11 under .500 and what they've done in the months since is incredible. Even more so when you look at the schedule they've had since August 1st. 2 West Coast trips, one of the toughest schedules down the stretch, inconvenient makeup games in terms of timing and location, then add in the Lindor injury when everything was coming together.
All of the above builds character, and when shit hits the fan in the postseason you need to be able to draw from that. I really thought they could have been dealt the knockout blow this past week and, honestly, if not for that late Padres rally to put up 5 runs in the 9th and beat the DB's on Saturday night we might well be dead. When they almost kill you but aren't able to, that's when you become dangerous.
I have high hopes for Sevy tonight. Needless to say, game 1 would be huge.
LGM
I will just say this. I can't think of a team in the playoff field that's faced more adversity in terms of injury, schedule quirks and overall overall performance. This team was 11 under .500 and what they've done in the months since is incredible. Even more so when you look at the schedule they've had since August 1st. 2 West Coast trips, one of the toughest schedules down the stretch, inconvenient makeup games in terms of timing and location, then add in the Lindor injury when everything was coming together.
All of the above builds character, and when shit hits the fan in the postseason you need to be able to draw from that. I really thought they could have been dealt the knockout blow this past week and, honestly, if not for that late Padres rally to put up 5 runs in the 9th and beat the DB's on Saturday night we might well be dead. When they almost kill you but aren't able to, that's when you become dangerous.
I have high hopes for Sevy tonight. Needless to say, game 1 would be huge.
LGM
good post Chris. on the scale of non-Mets teams I think other winning orgs have overcome more (like Atlanta winning a WS despite Acuna first injury) but this certainly looks to be the most resilient and gritty Met team since the Valentine days. 2015 and 2022 were both more magic carpet ride, though the 2015 team did have a lot of scrappy characteristics, and they did do a lot of their winning despite the Wright injury early. 2016 was also a kind of low-key gutsy team since they made that august run with gsellman/lugo stepping up with harvey/jdg injured. i think cespedes missed time that year too. that was the asdrubel cabrera bat flip vs philly which was 9/23 game. this time does feel more durable though because lindor and nimmo are core players who are signed for another half decade+ and we know cohen is willing to spend to add more.
i also very much agree with you that they way things turned out was perhaps the best springboard they could have had going into the postseason. Late game comebacks generally build momentum and you couldn't have scripted theirs any better. Clutch hits/homers from Lindor and Nimmo. Clutch defense from Alonso. And a clutch bounceback save from Diaz in the same game he lost it. On the road against the team that has owned them in September since the days of Chipper Jones and Brian Jones.
They should be entering the postseason loose and of the mindset that they are never out of any game, which is really as much as any of us can rationally ask for in a year where they lost their ace.
Winker almost always has quality AB's; pitch selection, OBA, etc. Good pinch hitter if this situation arises.
Infield and catcher are set; wonder who the DH and outfield, aside from Nimmo, will be today?
Tough righty in Woodruff...I'm think Taylor in CF, Marte in Right, Martinez DH?
I think they go with JD based on big game experience.
Bader comes in for defense should they have a lead late in the game.
Severino can earn a lot of money next year with a good/great start today....
Oh for his Met's career, LOL.
But he was fast!
Winker is DH. The Mets line-up is posted on MLB.com
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if Winker isn't healthy enough for today he shouldnt be on the roster. he has the most at bats and highest OPS vs peralta of all mets. I'd guess he DH's and JDM doesn't start.
Winker is DH. The Mets line-up is posted on MLB.com
Wow, Vientos hitting clean-up, Alvarez in the 9 hole....hate to have a slow runner at the end of the lineup. Wonder why they didn't flip Taylor/Alvarez 8/9.
In Mendoza we trust, I suppose.
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if Winker isn't healthy enough for today he shouldnt be on the roster. he has the most at bats and highest OPS vs peralta of all mets. I'd guess he DH's and JDM doesn't start.
Winker is DH. The Mets line-up is posted on MLB.com
so odd there haven't been multiple lineup graphics posted to twitter yet.
@AnthonyRieber
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@AnthonyDiComo
Mets roster minutae:
-Kodai Senga threw a 25-pitch live BP yesterday. But no word on his availability for future playoff rounds.
-Brett Baty, Pablo Reyes and Hayden Senger are here on taxi squad.
-Jesse Winker had an MRI on his back last week but is fine now.
Tim Healey
@timbhealey
Officially, Sean Manaea will pitch for the Mets in Game 2 on Wednesday. Carlos Mendoza didn’t commit to Jose Quintana for Game 3 on ThursdY, but he would be on full rest.
Tim Healey
@timbhealey
Kodai Senga wound up throwing live BP (25 pitches) yesterday, per Mendoza.
So…NLDS?
“We’ll see,” he said. “The fact that he threw a live BP yesterday and he felt good and the velo was up is a good sign.”
He indicated it’s hard to know what’s next/when Senga will feel ready.
@AnthonyDiComo
-Sean Manaea will start Game 2. The Mets are going TBA for Game 3 (if necessary). Could be Jose Quintana. Could be Johnny Wholestaff.
-Jeff McNeil (wrist) will start ramping up activities soon, following an improved X-ray. He, like Senga, is questionable for later in October.
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