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DC Gmen Fan : 10/1/2024 2:18 pm
Anyone who was into wrestling in the 80s and 90s will probably find this series immensely entertaining. I'm 3 episodes in and not only is it like reliving my childhood but paints a picture of what a business genius VM was in addition to a colossal asshole.

Highly recommend.
Same, through ep 3  
UConn4523 : 10/1/2024 2:22 pm : link
I don’t care for sports docs but my wife really wanted to watch it and it’s been fun explaining everything to her. That said, there’s some bad stuff (not fun) so it a bit of a rollercoaster between awesome and awful, lol.
this is on my to watch list  
islander1 : 10/1/2024 2:28 pm : link
for sure.
Is it just about the buisiness  
JOrthman : 10/1/2024 2:33 pm : link
or does it touch on the recent revelations/allegations?
RE: Is it just about the buisiness  
jvm52106 : 10/1/2024 2:55 pm : link
In comment 16632840 JOrthman said:
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or does it touch on the recent revelations/allegations?


It is a deep look at a very complicated and delusional man and it focuses on ALL aspects of his life.. I actually think he used the MR. McMahon persona to tell the "truths" of his real life. Dude has issues.
My Wrestling history  
yalebowl : 10/1/2024 3:02 pm : link
Like anyone growing up in a NYC suburb I became a fan of wrestling at a very young age. We had Wrestling on Channel 5, Channel 9, and Channel 13 I believe.

Channel 5 had wrestling on Tuesday night from Sunnyside Gardens, Thursday Night from Washington DC, and Saturday night from New Haven.

Channel 9 I think had it from the Boston Garden.

And, Channel 13 had wrestling from Chicago.

I don't know if it was live or on tape.

A parent took a couple of us to an arena in Norwalk where we saw the Scuffling Hillbillies, midgets, women, and the headliner was Killer Kowalski who beat Tony Altimore from Stamford.

I ended up wrestling on my high school team and also in the Marines. I was 2nd string in high school as we had great team. But I did pin the captain of a team from a nearby high school and wrestled in the county tournament. I also became the base champion in my weight class as a Marine at the Subic Bay Naval base in 1968.

I never understood why freestyle wrestling never became a true professional sport.
RE: Is it just about the buisiness  
UConn4523 : 10/1/2024 3:08 pm : link
In comment 16632840 JOrthman said:
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or does it touch on the recent revelations/allegations?


Both, although it wasn’t supposed to. It was filmed in 2021 and then the allegations came out so they pivoted and added that onto it. Vince McMahon released a statement on it ahead of this launching on Netflix last week.
Finished the documentary  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/1/2024 3:09 pm : link
On Sunday. Starts off great but really moves too fast after episode 4. Vince stopped the interviews with the producers after the Janel Grant lawsuit came out and it really hampered the documentary. Most wrestling fans knew most of the stuff that they touched but there were a few nuggets sprinkled in.
Skeptical that this will be unbiased  
State Your Name : 10/1/2024 3:15 pm : link
since Netflix just wrote a $500 bazillion check to WWE for broadcast rights.
RE: RE: Is it just about the buisiness  
eli4life : 10/1/2024 5:24 pm : link
In comment 16632872 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 16632840 JOrthman said:


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or does it touch on the recent revelations/allegations?



It is a deep look at a very complicated and delusional man and it focuses on ALL aspects of his life.. I actually think he used the MR. McMahon persona to tell the "truths" of his real life. Dude has issues.


The pint of it is to show that Vince McMahon jr is one and the same as his character Mr McMahon. Probably why he tried buying it from Netflix so it never aired
Great business man.  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/1/2024 6:01 pm : link
Horrifically bad shitty person. Maybe why he was so successful

My take away his ego is a bad thing. His plastic surgery is just as historically awful Embarrassingly bad
I enjoy listening to Cornette break it down  
Anakim : 10/1/2024 6:10 pm : link
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Not so much a genius, rather  
gridirony : 10/2/2024 7:56 am : link
fans are idiots.

Back in the day, I went to a few live events, just to see a few of the legends. Talking to those fans, down on the floor, a few rows from the ring, much more than 50% believed everything about wrestling was "real".
RE: Skeptical that this will be unbiased  
nygiants16 : 10/2/2024 7:58 am : link
In comment 16632905 State Your Name said:
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since Netflix just wrote a $500 bazillion check to WWE for broadcast rights.


Vince had nothing to do with that deal
RE: Finished the documentary  
GiantTuff1 : 10/2/2024 3:34 pm : link
In comment 16632893 JoeyBigBlue said:
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On Sunday. Starts off great but really moves too fast after episode 4. Vince stopped the interviews with the producers after the Janel Grant lawsuit came out and it really hampered the documentary. Most wrestling fans knew most of the stuff that they touched but there were a few nuggets sprinkled in.

I had a similar impression. Starts good but it moves very quickly at some points, and I think loses steam in the last few episodes.

I think they could have focused a lot more on individual stories. The series could have easily been 12 episodes or more. For instance, they glossed over Ventura attempting to start a union under Vince's nose. Right when it was getting interesting the story was over lol.

Pritchard felt it was a hit piece on Vince and he says so in the doc. I kind of wish they were able to dive more into his "genius" and how he built the empire. For those who appreciate wrestling and also business in general those aspects are super interesting. Maybe that's not as casual mainstream though for Netflix's audience.
RE: Great business man.  
GiantTuff1 : 10/2/2024 3:34 pm : link
In comment 16633080 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Horrifically bad shitty person. Maybe why he was so successful

My take away his ego is a bad thing. His plastic surgery is just as historically awful Embarrassingly bad

The facial surgery and painted eyebrows is all time horrible...
BTW what is up with Vince's voice  
GiantTuff1 : 10/2/2024 3:36 pm : link
It's so grovely. Did he ruin it yelling "YOU'RE FIRED" 5,000,000x?
He's pushing 80  
JonC : 10/2/2024 3:44 pm : link
with decades of steroid use in the rear view mirror, it's bound to get ugly.
RE: I enjoy listening to Cornette break it down  
Vin R : 10/2/2024 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16633087 Anakim said:
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I saw him and Last reviewed every episode - what did they say?

I watched every episode - nothing really earth shattering…
The Shane stuff was interesting though
RE: My Wrestling history  
Jim in Fairfax : 10/3/2024 7:39 pm : link
In comment 16632885 yalebowl said:
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Like anyone growing up in a NYC suburb I became a fan of wrestling at a very young age. We had Wrestling on Channel 5, Channel 9, and Channel 13 I believe.



Channel 13 was/is PBS. :-)

Watched the whole thing.  
bwitz : 10/3/2024 9:10 pm : link
Nothing new, compelling or even entertaining really. It was stuff most everyone who is a wrestling fan knows, portrayed in a ridiculously positive light.

If you want real stories about the wrestling world, watch Dark Side of the Ring.
RE: My Wrestling history  
Vin R : 10/3/2024 9:14 pm : link
In comment 16632885 yalebowl said:
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Like anyone growing up in a NYC suburb I became a fan of wrestling at a very young age. We had Wrestling on Channel 5, Channel 9, and Channel 13 I believe.

Channel 5 had wrestling on Tuesday night from Sunnyside Gardens, Thursday Night from Washington DC, and Saturday night from New Haven.

Channel 9 I think had it from the Boston Garden.

And, Channel 13 had wrestling from Chicago.

I don't know if it was live or on tape.

A parent took a couple of us to an arena in Norwalk where we saw the Scuffling Hillbillies, midgets, women, and the headliner was Killer Kowalski who beat Tony Altimore from Stamford.

I ended up wrestling on my high school team and also in the Marines. I was 2nd string in high school as we had great team. But I did pin the captain of a team from a nearby high school and wrestled in the county tournament. I also became the base champion in my weight class as a Marine at the Subic Bay Naval base in 1968.

I never understood why freestyle wrestling never became a true professional sport.


I remember hearing about a story when NWA-WCW held an event at the New Haven Coliseum and when Vince found out - he didn’t bring the WWF back to New Haven for a while.. the New Haven Coliseum was considered to be the home of the WWF at the time too
RE: Skeptical that this will be unbiased  
bwitz : 10/3/2024 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16632905 State Your Name said:
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since Netflix just wrote a $500 bazillion check to WWE for broadcast rights.


They do acknowledge all of it was filmed prior to any of the new allegations. That said, it’s definitely not as transparent as other docs and, is mostly focused on how great Vince was.
I grew up watching WWF on msg network  
djm : 10/4/2024 12:41 pm : link
It was on at night, want to say once per week. Hosted by "Mean" Gene Okerlund.
RE: My Wrestling history  
cuty suzuki : 10/4/2024 5:14 pm : link
In comment 16632885 yalebowl said:
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Like anyone growing up in a NYC suburb I became a fan of wrestling at a very young age.

I never understood why freestyle wrestling never became a true professional sport.


They tried with Real Pro Wrestling. It didn't last. Daniel Cormier and King Mo were two of the champions that went on to MMA success.

The fans knew that it was business and a show 100 years ago. There would be occasional thoughts that the championship match might be legitimate. Bruno was probably the last time of that.

I hate Vince for killing off all of the other promotions. What he did would be like the Cowboys took over football and toured like the Harlem Globetrotters while the Giants and all of the other teams went out of business.
Real Pro Wrestling - ( New Window )
RE: RE: I enjoy listening to Cornette break it down  
Anakim : 10/4/2024 6:04 pm : link
In comment 16633972 Vin R said:
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In comment 16633087 Anakim said:


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I saw him and Last reviewed every episode - what did they say?

I watched every episode - nothing really earth shattering…
The Shane stuff was interesting though


Nothing groundbreaking. I don't have Netflix so I didn't get a chance to watch the documentary. It's just Cornette breaking down his experience with Vince, Shane, Linda, etc. And Last is surprisingly very knowledgeable on wrestling history.
So I just finished this  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/7/2024 9:38 am : link
I loved it. Yes it may not have been anything groundbreaking to those who kept up with WWE, but for Gen Xer like myself, who grew up on the early Wrestlemanias, and the WWF of the early/mid 90s and lost track of wrestling in the early 2000s, it explained so much. I always wondered why Hulk Hogan suddenly was in WCW.. All I knew about WCW was the Nintendo game. No idea about NWO, Eric Bischoff, WWE Attitude era, etc.

I had no clue about the McMahon kids and their roles and all the lewdness and pushing the lines wrestling became. I can't believe they got away with that stuff. A far cry from the PG WWF wrestling I grew up with. But I wish I had followed more as the storylines blurring reality and fiction seemed very interesting.

Anyway great series, filled in a lot of gaps for me and made me respect the performers even more for what they put themselves through. Yeah it was "fake" but taking chairs off the head, or being piledriven into concrete, or jumping off a 20 ft cage and landing on a gate still had to hurt like a mofo
RE: So I just finished this  
Vin R : 10/7/2024 9:41 am : link
In comment 16639345 DC Gmen Fan said:
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I loved it. Yes it may not have been anything groundbreaking to those who kept up with WWE, but for Gen Xer like myself, who grew up on the early Wrestlemanias, and the WWF of the early/mid 90s and lost track of wrestling in the early 2000s, it explained so much. I always wondered why Hulk Hogan suddenly was in WCW.. All I knew about WCW was the Nintendo game. No idea about NWO, Eric Bischoff, WWE Attitude era, etc.

I had no clue about the McMahon kids and their roles and all the lewdness and pushing the lines wrestling became. I can't believe they got away with that stuff. A far cry from the PG WWF wrestling I grew up with. But I wish I had followed more as the storylines blurring reality and fiction seemed very interesting.

Anyway great series, filled in a lot of gaps for me and made me respect the performers even more for what they put themselves through. Yeah it was "fake" but taking chairs off the head, or being piledriven into concrete, or jumping off a 20 ft cage and landing on a gate still had to hurt like a mofo


I got back into it a few years ago.. and whenever someone makes a snide remark - I compare it to them watching their favorite tv show. Recently.. especially the recent PPV over the weekend - it has been very good
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