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NFT: ⚾Mets @ Brewers Wild Card Series⚾ Game 1 – 5:32 pm ET start⚾

Optimus-NY : 10/1/2024 2:53 pm
Welcome to this Best-of-Three National League Wild Card Series thread between the 6th seeded Mets (89-73) & the 3rd seeded N.L. Central Division Champion Brewers (93-69) in Milwaukee! The Mets got beat down badly by the Brewers during the regular season. The Brewers beat the Mets 5 out of the 6 times that they played. The Mets will be looking for some payback against the Brewers after coming off a dramatic playoff-clinching day yesterday in Atlanta. Click HERE to read a preview of this Playoff Series. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets @ Brewers: Game 1 –⚾Severino (R) vs. Peralta (R)⚾– 5:32 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today and tomorrow in Milwaukee against the Brewers.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised on ESPN as will Game 2 tomorrow night.
-The weather forecast for today's game at American Family Field is pretty good, albeit a bit colder now we’re in the Fall. It doesn’t really matter though since it’s a retractable roof stadium. Click HERE to keep updated & see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-Everything’s a blank slate now with the Second Season upon us. The N.L. East Champion and 2nd seeded Phillies await the winner of this Best-of-Three Wild Card Series in Milwaukee between our Mets and the Brewers over the next two or three days. Winning the first game yesterday in Atlanta was huge for the Mets, allowing them to start Severino on full rest instead of Manaea of short rest in Game 1. Severino hasn’t pitched since September 24th. When you factor in Joey Lucchesi giving the Mets 6 innings yesterday in Game 2 of their Doubleheader in Atlanta, allowing them not to overextend their bullpen, and you’ve got a strong tactical advantage for the Mets to start this series compared to the alternative. The Brewers were hoping that their opponent would be over-extended pitching-wise. That won’t be the case now. Manaea will probably pitch in Game #2 tomorrow on full rest.

-Click HERE to see the list of the Mets’ roster transactions to start October (there are plenty with the playoff roster changes made today).
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active playoff roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Martinez (R), Acuña (R), & Bader (R).
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RE: Worth  
Metnut : 10/4/2024 10:03 am : link
In comment 16635108 DanMetroMan said:
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Noting Senga’s velocity fell from 94 to 88 during his 1 inning of work with Syracuse


That's VERY worth noting. Damn.

I don't mind the 1-2 inning thing, but it's about effectiveness. Tough decision for them to make. Seems like he could be a very real contributor if they can make the NLCS.

Caveat  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 10:05 am : link
Is Senga, may well have taken his foot off the gas (he’s clearly pretty finicky about his body/mechanics) because he was feeling whatever he felt that shut him down again in the first place but he didn’t go out there and even make it though 1 inning with his regular velocity, so it’s a risk. He was 88-94 during that one inning of work
RE: Worth  
Optimus-NY : 10/4/2024 10:06 am : link
In comment 16635108 DanMetroMan said:
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Noting Senga’s velocity fell from 94 to 88 during his 1 inning of work with Syracuse


Gott DAYUM! Leave him off the roster for the NLDS. IF we make it to the NLCS, then we can revisit the idea of adding him it seems. By then Squirrel Master should be ready to go too.
RE: RE: mets considering senga for philly series  
Eric on Li : 10/4/2024 10:06 am : link
In comment 16635092 Metnut said:
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debating whether it's worth a roster spot for a guy who may only be able to get 1-2 innings. Mets discussing whether to activate Kodai Senga for NLDS: Sources - ( New Window )



If he's able to go for Game 1, you could have Senga open the game and pitch the first time through Philly's order (max of 2 innings) and then bring Megill in after. You'd be able to do the same thing for an if necessary Game 5 but maybe get 3 innings the next time.

If he's not ready for Game 1 and we're looking at 1-2 innings during the Citi Field games, it's a tougher call. It really comes down to our scouts/coaches. Does Senga's stuff/commend look at least 95% of his normal? If so, I think you go with it because 1-2 high leverage innings could turn things and Mendoza clearly doesn't trust the bottom 2-3 guys of the bullpen in any close situation.


i dont think they'd carry him if he wasnt already ready to throw. i think he threw a BP a few days ago and came out good, so i think he's healthy.

i think the question is do you throw a guy who hasnt pitched at all in game 1 on the road vs a really good lineup? megill is going to be in for kranick so it's senga vs brazoban or young. with the philly lefties i can see a case for carrying young, and with brazoban he's able to pitch any time and make multiple appearances if necessary. the upside to senga is if he's good and you can stretch him, maybe you get 3 innings in his next start, and almost a real start if they make it farther than that in his next one. is that enough upside to carry him?

it would be helpful to not have to wipe the BP in game 1 since butto has pitched a lot obviously. so if senga + megill could get you 3x through the lineup to garrett/maton/diaz that would probably be ideal.

in a 5 game series with 3 days off counting today and never more than 2 games in a row, i think id risk the roster spot with senga. would i risk throwing him to start game 1 is the question? ahead of a travel day where you can empty the pen would be better but that doesnt seem like an option. risk is obviously if he just doesnt have it and then you enter megill in a worse situation. his 1 game against atlanta was so good though id be tempted. lord knows megill knows what it feels like to have to work his way out of trouble. presumably he'd enter even if it's mid 1st inning not needing to face schwardber, turner, harper, bohm too which would be helpful. and they'd know senga cant go far so he could basically do his normal routine planning to enter in the 2nd. if the 1st inning goes long, that's the same entrance time just with guys on base.
RE: Worth  
Eric on Li : 10/4/2024 10:08 am : link
In comment 16635108 DanMetroMan said:
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Noting Senga’s velocity fell from 94 to 88 during his 1 inning of work with Syracuse


the main thing that needs to guide their decision is where they think his stuff is.

if it's wherever it was before the atlanta game id carry him. if there's any question i probably dont. id imagine they have plenty of technology to determine where his stuff is even from his bp session.
Everyone should check this out...  
Optimus-NY : 10/4/2024 10:17 am : link
Legendary stuff! Click below:


Pete Alonso Leads Comeback, Mets Advance To NLDS | All Feeds | NYM v MIL | October 3rd, 2024 - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Worth  
Metnut : 10/4/2024 10:19 am : link
In comment 16635123 Eric on Li said:
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Noting Senga’s velocity fell from 94 to 88 during his 1 inning of work with Syracuse



the main thing that needs to guide their decision is where they think his stuff is.

if it's wherever it was before the atlanta game id carry him. if there's any question i probably dont. id imagine they have plenty of technology to determine where his stuff is even from his bp session.


He was dominant that ATL game and it was his first game back (although with a number of rehab starts). That's why this is a discussion we have to have because if his stuff is at that level, then he's absolutely worth a roster spot even with a 1-2 inning cap.
RE: RE: RE: Worth  
Eric on Li : 10/4/2024 10:34 am : link
In comment 16635138 Metnut said:
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Noting Senga’s velocity fell from 94 to 88 during his 1 inning of work with Syracuse



the main thing that needs to guide their decision is where they think his stuff is.

if it's wherever it was before the atlanta game id carry him. if there's any question i probably dont. id imagine they have plenty of technology to determine where his stuff is even from his bp session.



He was dominant that ATL game and it was his first game back (although with a number of rehab starts). That's why this is a discussion we have to have because if his stuff is at that level, then he's absolutely worth a roster spot even with a 1-2 inning cap.


agreed. i wonder how much he's been able to do with his arm since that atlanta start since it's not like an injury where his arm was completely shut down from throwing, it was his calf. that start was 7/26 and his stuff obviously played vs atlanta, so only 2 months away from his arm being in a really good place. plus a more recent rehab start at syracuse 2 weeks ago and an apparently healthy BP session a few days ago to judge from.

feels like they should be able to piece together whether or not his current peak stuff is still close to that form.
RE: RE: RE: Game 2 is Sunday at 4.  
speedywheels : 10/4/2024 10:46 am : link
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Conflict with Giants. No love for us Giants-Mets fans. Oh well, channel flipping will be required.



I'm actually going to the game in Seattle. I know wish I wasn't...



bro, have a blast. That stadium is nice

so is T-Mobile for Mariners. Love that city


I hope they have good wi-fi in Lumen! I went to t-mobile in July - holy crap, what a beautiful place.
I'm glad they don't have to play until Saturday. They can use some  
Ira : 10/4/2024 11:10 am : link
rest after this weeks schedule.
fun fact from SNY  
KDavies : 10/4/2024 11:17 am : link
that hopefully bodes well for the Mets. There have been 9 teams to eliminate the Brewers in postseason history. All 9 have made the World Series. 6 of the 9 have won.
They played Howie Rose's call on the plane ride after the game  
Ira : 10/4/2024 11:23 am : link
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RE: They played Howie Rose's call on the plane ride after the game  
KDavies : 10/4/2024 11:30 am : link
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Saw that. That was fantastic.
Rotation-wise are we going  
Chris684 : 10/4/2024 11:52 am : link
Peterson-Sevy-Manaea?

Any other thoughts?
RE: Everyone should check this out...  
Rory : 10/4/2024 12:21 pm : link
In comment 16635133 Optimus-NY said:
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Legendary stuff! Click below:
Pete Alonso Leads Comeback, Mets Advance To NLDS | All Feeds | NYM v MIL | October 3rd, 2024 - ( New Window )


I know he's a legend but I don't think Bob Uecker could be any less mellow dramatic than how he called the end of that game.

As for the Spanish speaking broadcast, ayyyye caramba !! muy magnifico !!

Also ....I don't think I've ever seen an owner (Cohen) come out to celebrate with the team on the field like that before.

Long live Cohen and #LFGM!
RE: Rotation-wise are we going  
Rory : 10/4/2024 12:23 pm : link
In comment 16635246 Chris684 said:
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Peterson-Sevy-Manaea?

Any other thoughts?


I hope so Manaea would be Tuesday in NY and I"m gonna be at that game!
RE: Rotation-wise are we going  
KDavies : 10/4/2024 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16635246 Chris684 said:
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Peterson-Sevy-Manaea?

Any other thoughts?


that is ideal, though the question is if Peterson would be fine after an inning. If not, I could see all 5 starters lined up to go this series with Megill game 1
Megill  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 12:27 pm : link
is the favorite to go game 1.
RE: Megill  
KayvonOjulari515 : 10/4/2024 12:40 pm : link
In comment 16635286 DanMetroMan said:
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is the favorite to go game 1.


My guess is the Mets go Megill, Peterson, Manaea, Severino and Quintana if it goes five.
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 12:41 pm : link
have to hope he opts to stay in Japan for *2* more seasons. That would give them a shot at him.


Francys Romero
@francysromeroFR
Roki Sasaki's status will be known after Chiba Lotte Marines finish in NPB playoffs.

Top executives from Mets, Red Sox, Dbacks were in Japan in September. Andrew Friedman (LA) was just last week.

Many MLB teams don’t expect Sasaki to be posted this year.
RE: RE: Rotation-wise are we going  
Everyone Relax : 10/4/2024 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16635284 KDavies said:
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Peterson-Sevy-Manaea?

Any other thoughts?



that is ideal, though the question is if Peterson would be fine after an inning. If not, I could see all 5 starters lined up to go this series with Megill game 1

I think he only threw something like 8 pitches. These guys have more intense bullpen sessions on off days so I would assume he's good to go.
RE: RE: Megill  
Mike in NY : 10/4/2024 12:49 pm : link
In comment 16635299 KayvonOjulari515 said:
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is the favorite to go game 1.



My guess is the Mets go Megill, Peterson, Manaea, Severino and Quintana if it goes five.


Or you can piggyback Megill and Peterson in Game 1, Sevy in Game 2, Manaea Game 3, Quintana Game 4, and have Peterson lined up if there is a Game 5 with the ability to use Megill in long relief later in the series.
RE: Mets  
Eric on Li : 10/4/2024 12:59 pm : link
In comment 16635302 DanMetroMan said:
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have to hope he opts to stay in Japan for *2* more seasons. That would give them a shot at him.


Francys Romero
@francysromeroFR
Roki Sasaki's status will be known after Chiba Lotte Marines finish in NPB playoffs.

Top executives from Mets, Red Sox, Dbacks were in Japan in September. Andrew Friedman (LA) was just last week.

Many MLB teams don’t expect Sasaki to be posted this year.


if he posts himself this year he'd be a financial moron. the decision is basically:

wait 2 years, sign for hundreds of millions like yamamoto, 15% to his NPB team
sign now for ~$7m bonus, 20% to his NPB team (LAD have lowest pool at $5.1m), bound by IFA rookie scale rules re extension eligibility

id imagine he is being paid fairly decently in the NPB and not far off the early posting IFA bonus. of course injury is a concern in the next 2 years but even if he got hurt, id imagine he'd still get paid very well. same as how TJS pitchers still get picked high in MLB drafts.
I think Peterson would still be good for game 4  
bhill410 : 10/4/2024 1:00 pm : link
That’s full rest for him.
RE: RE: Mets  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 1:03 pm : link
In comment 16635335 Eric on Li said:
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have to hope he opts to stay in Japan for *2* more seasons. That would give them a shot at him.


Francys Romero
@francysromeroFR
Roki Sasaki's status will be known after Chiba Lotte Marines finish in NPB playoffs.

Top executives from Mets, Red Sox, Dbacks were in Japan in September. Andrew Friedman (LA) was just last week.

Many MLB teams don’t expect Sasaki to be posted this year.



if he posts himself this year he'd be a financial moron. the decision is basically:

wait 2 years, sign for hundreds of millions like yamamoto, 15% to his NPB team
sign now for ~$7m bonus, 20% to his NPB team (LAD have lowest pool at $5.1m), bound by IFA rookie scale rules re extension eligibility

id imagine he is being paid fairly decently in the NPB and not far off the early posting IFA bonus. of course injury is a concern in the next 2 years but even if he got hurt, id imagine he'd still get paid very well. same as how TJS pitchers still get picked high in MLB drafts.


Well, he can't "post himself", his team would have to post him but yeah the max he can make this off-season would be about 6 million (assuming the Dodger used their entire pool including breaking off deals with other IFA's) if he wants 2 seasons he can get whatever the market allows... we all saw what Yamamoto got. The monetary difference for his team is also ridiculous. They get basically nothing. Orix got 50.6 million for Yamamoto... paid for the ENTIRE payroll for 2024 lol
Worth  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 1:03 pm : link
adding that Ohtani did take that risk (and it obviously worked out for him).
RE: RE: RE: Rotation-wise are we going  
KDavies : 10/4/2024 1:04 pm : link
In comment 16635310 Everyone Relax said:
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Peterson-Sevy-Manaea?

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that is ideal, though the question is if Peterson would be fine after an inning. If not, I could see all 5 starters lined up to go this series with Megill game 1


I think he only threw something like 8 pitches. These guys have more intense bullpen sessions on off days so I would assume he's good to go.


I would think so too, especially not being a crazy hard thrower, but as Dan noted above reports are Megill is the favorite for Game 1. Could be some gamesmanship on the leak. Who knows.
Just did a little tabulating ...  
Beezer : 10/4/2024 1:12 pm : link
Megill since August 30:

31 IP
8 ER
(2.32 ERA)
10 BB
36 K

Notable: On September 22 against Philly, Megill went 4, allowed 1 run, 4 hits, 2 walks and 6 strikeouts.
RE: RE: RE: Mets  
Eric on Li : 10/4/2024 1:19 pm : link
In comment 16635339 DanMetroMan said:
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have to hope he opts to stay in Japan for *2* more seasons. That would give them a shot at him.


Francys Romero
@francysromeroFR
Roki Sasaki's status will be known after Chiba Lotte Marines finish in NPB playoffs.

Top executives from Mets, Red Sox, Dbacks were in Japan in September. Andrew Friedman (LA) was just last week.

Many MLB teams don’t expect Sasaki to be posted this year.



if he posts himself this year he'd be a financial moron. the decision is basically:

wait 2 years, sign for hundreds of millions like yamamoto, 15% to his NPB team
sign now for ~$7m bonus, 20% to his NPB team (LAD have lowest pool at $5.1m), bound by IFA rookie scale rules re extension eligibility

id imagine he is being paid fairly decently in the NPB and not far off the early posting IFA bonus. of course injury is a concern in the next 2 years but even if he got hurt, id imagine he'd still get paid very well. same as how TJS pitchers still get picked high in MLB drafts.



Well, he can't "post himself", his team would have to post him but yeah the max he can make this off-season would be about 6 million (assuming the Dodger used their entire pool including breaking off deals with other IFA's) if he wants 2 seasons he can get whatever the market allows... we all saw what Yamamoto got. The monetary difference for his team is also ridiculous. They get basically nothing. Orix got 50.6 million for Yamamoto... paid for the ENTIRE payroll for 2024 lol


i expect culturally this type of thing is less likely over there, but if he wants out id imagine there are ways he can try to force the issue where the team would have some skin in not appearing non-talent friendly.

but to your point his team is even more financially incentivized to not want to let him out of the contract he's currently under. they are actually incentivized to just give him a raise to keep him happy for 2 years. i expect this is the actual intention of the rumors of him considering an early posting. get a little more money now and a lot more money later.
The  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 1:22 pm : link
major reason people are suggesting he may indeed be posted is because he has a very strained relationship with his team.


Jarrett Seidler
@jaseidler
Most (American side) people I've talked to have expected him to be posted this year and sign with the Dodgers, but I don't have any particular insight on the relationship with him and his team other than I know like everyone else that there's drama there
Mets playoff rotation  
Ira : 10/4/2024 1:24 pm : link
The Mets have five current starters - all of whom have been pitching well. Generally teams have four starters in their rotations for the playoffs and put the fifth in the pen. IMO, that would be Megill. So, with Megill and possibly Senga in the pen, it should be a stronger unit. But we'll see what Mendoza actually wants to do.
RE: The  
Eric on Li : 10/4/2024 1:26 pm : link
In comment 16635363 DanMetroMan said:
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major reason people are suggesting he may indeed be posted is because he has a very strained relationship with his team.


Jarrett Seidler
@jaseidler
Most (American side) people I've talked to have expected him to be posted this year and sign with the Dodgers, but I don't have any particular insight on the relationship with him and his team other than I know like everyone else that there's drama there


there is definitely drama out there but it's in both sides interest to work it out. sometimes that doesnt happen, but the numbers in this case make it so obvious for both sides.
RE: Mets playoff rotation  
KDavies : 10/4/2024 1:43 pm : link
In comment 16635367 Ira said:
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The Mets have five current starters - all of whom have been pitching well. Generally teams have four starters in their rotations for the playoffs and put the fifth in the pen. IMO, that would be Megill. So, with Megill and possibly Senga in the pen, it should be a stronger unit. But we'll see what Mendoza actually wants to do.


But due to the Monday double-header and the 3 game series, things don't line up if Peterson isn't ready to start tomorrow. I agree that in a perfect world, if the Mets were able to line things up, Megill could go to the bullpen. But if they don't want Peterson starting game 1, Megill is the only one ready
RE: RE: Mets playoff rotation  
Mike in NY : 10/4/2024 2:10 pm : link
In comment 16635387 KDavies said:
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The Mets have five current starters - all of whom have been pitching well. Generally teams have four starters in their rotations for the playoffs and put the fifth in the pen. IMO, that would be Megill. So, with Megill and possibly Senga in the pen, it should be a stronger unit. But we'll see what Mendoza actually wants to do.



But due to the Monday double-header and the 3 game series, things don't line up if Peterson isn't ready to start tomorrow. I agree that in a perfect world, if the Mets were able to line things up, Megill could go to the bullpen. But if they don't want Peterson starting game 1, Megill is the only one ready


I still wonder why you can't piggyback Peterson with Megill? If you can get 4+3 or 4+4 that would really help out.
sounds like peterson may start game 1  
Eric on Li : 10/4/2024 3:10 pm : link
Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
The Mets are bringing David Peterson into the interview room in a bit - a strong indicator he will be the Game 1 starter.
RE: sounds like peterson may start game 1  
Ira : 10/4/2024 3:16 pm : link
In comment 16635470 Eric on Li said:
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Mike Puma
@NYPost_Mets
The Mets are bringing David Peterson into the interview room in a bit - a strong indicator he will be the Game 1 starter.
I think either Peterson or Megill will do well, but whoever it is will be going against Wheeler.
Senga  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 3:38 pm : link
To serve as the opener tomorrow. Senga vs. Sanchez
That's nuts.  
Beezer : 10/4/2024 3:56 pm : link
How? lol
That’s crazy  
Mike in NY : 10/4/2024 4:00 pm : link
Would rather use Megill as he could go a turn through the order at the very least. Then you can turn to Peterson and/or Senga.
Severino  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 4:05 pm : link
Game 2
It’s  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 4:08 pm : link
Senga + Peterson or Megill vs. Sanchez
Severino vs. Wheeler
Manaea vs. Nola
The  
DanMetroMan : 10/4/2024 4:10 pm : link
“Buzz” is Peterson was told he should be ready to go after Senga but I guess we shall see
Let Senga/Peterson/Megill  
Metnut : 10/4/2024 4:13 pm : link
Each get one time through the order at max effort and let Diaz finish.

Four completely different looks for the Phillies gives NYM the chance for Game 1 upset.
Are we sure it's Sanchez tomorrow, Wheeler Sunday?  
BigBlueNH : 10/4/2024 4:55 pm : link
ESPN shows the opposite. Which makes more sense to me, since whomever starts Game 1 is the only starter who could go Game ,5 on regular rest.
mlb.com shows Senga vs Wheeler  
Ira : 10/4/2024 5:01 pm : link
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Senga interview  
Ira : 10/4/2024 5:11 pm : link
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RE: The  
Optimus-NY : 10/5/2024 12:01 pm : link
In comment 16635549 DanMetroMan said:
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“Buzz” is Peterson was told he should be ready to go after Senga but I guess we shall see


That's what I expect. Give Senga a once around the order or so for hopefully 2 or 3 innings first then let's see what Petey can do.
Here's the NLDS roster...  
Optimus-NY : 10/5/2024 12:02 pm : link
Click below for it:


Mets Announce 2024 NLDS Roster Posted by Patrick Glynn | Oct 5, 2024 - ( New Window )
Here's the thread for the NLDS against the Phillies:  
Optimus-NY : 10/5/2024 1:09 pm : link
Click below...

NFT: ⚾Mets vs. Phillies NLDS thread⚾ Game 1 – 4:08 pm EDT start ⚾ | Optimus-NY | 1:05 pm - ( New Window )
RE: Here's the thread for the NLDS against the Phillies:  
pjcas18 : 10/5/2024 2:22 pm : link
In comment 16635911 Optimus-NY said:
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Click below... NFT: ⚾Mets vs. Phillies NLDS thread⚾ Game 1 – 4:08 pm EDT start ⚾ | Optimus-NY | 1:05 pm - ( New Window )


I was going to send out a bat signal - we need the optimus game thread - wasn't sure if you were in US, Dubai or globe trotting somewhere else, lol - thanks!
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