If the Raiders were willing to eat a fair amount of that deal, he might be an interesting acquisition for a high day three pick. I wouldn't risk a first at all. I would listen to the idea of a second...to a degree.
At some point teams are going to wake up to the reality that WRs are finishing pieces, not foundational parts. I can't believe how overvalued they are both in FA and the draft.
They sniffed around on Aiyuk, and Adams is a much better player and Daniels their thinking has got to be much more aggressive than it was in the off season.
Adams still owed $13.5 million of his $17.5 million salary and bonuses for this season. He is under contract through 2026, but his salaries the next two seasons jump to $35.640 million and $36.640 million for 2025 and 2026, respectively.
Let the Commanders pay $72 million over the next 2 years for an over 30 WR. Will hamper their depth elsewhere
Not surprising. He was pissed with McDaniels (as was the whole team) , then they got rid of Carr, then they got Pierce who seems to be rubbing some people the wrong way now. Adams didn't seem too pleased by his comments the other week. Raiders seemed to be on the verge of a good team not that long ago. Now they are complete disaster.
RE: RE: Thibs + a 2nd + what else would get us Maxx?
At some point teams are going to wake up to the reality that WRs are finishing pieces, not foundational parts. I can't believe how overvalued they are both in FA and the draft.
I can't believe you haven't received GM offers yet. You speak with conviction.
At some point teams are going to wake up to the reality that WRs are finishing pieces, not foundational parts. I can't believe how overvalued they are both in FA and the draft.
Couldn’t agree more, and the reason they’re being overvalued in drafts is their FA contracts.
I think the market adjusts and we’ve seen the peek tbh. The analytics will point toward toward a +QB w a +OL will give create a +WR and a +RB that can be had cheaper and later in the draft.
WRs have become more costly than their worth, RBs the opposite. The problem with the QB/OL route is that OLs aren’t being churned out by college like the skill players are and until that changes, or the game style changes to make better use of mid tier OL talent, WR prices will stay high.
I guess we can't have that here with NYG. Not ready yet I guess.
We're never ready for that and yet they signed guys like Burns and OL in the off-season. Go figure....
NYG Franchise is a stupid joke at this point. LEgendary talents avail themelves every now n then, but NYG always have some kind of built in excuse to not get that guy. "We're rebuilding"
You win by fielding dominant units. The Giants continue to field OK units and bad units. They will never win shit that way.
I know.....I know...NYG should tank or they shouldn't spend money now...wake me up when they should.
apples and oranges I know (adams makes a lot of money etc)
but the 1981 Giants were 2-2 when they traded for Rob Carpenter. 2-3 by the time he suited up.
They are ever ready to be buyers. Only sellers. It shows.
The best trade this franchise has made over the last 10 years was the one people still hate around here when they dealt the stupid 3rd rounder for Leonard Williams. They couldn't wait to deal him off last season. He's on his way to another very good season.
Just once I want this franchise to build and field a unit that actually boasts more than one great player. Maybe next decade.
This isn't even necessarily about Adams as much as how fucking boring and content this franchise is.
Just re-sign Slayton instead. Safe. Not a bad player by any means. Nice guy. Won't ever move the needle. Thx for shopping.
pass catcher. WR's aren't overvalued, but much like QB's, you need to capitalize on their rookie contracts. After that, you don't pay WR's unless you are a SB contender.
The idea that a QB/OL will make a WR is absurd to me.
Please show me the data that supports this. RB's, aboslutely, I will give you that one, but where are all these stud WR's that were drafted late and produced like #1's because of a good QB/OL?
and yet the best teams in the NFL boast 1-2 per team.
Fans think they are overpaid. What else is new.
Great WRs help you win games more than any other offensive player other than QB.
Running the ball is still as vital but fans see the running QB and make believe teams don't value the big time RBs. They do. See the Niners. See the Eagles and see Dallas who is probably kicking themselves for not going big after Barkley or even Pollard. See the Jets who have 2 big time talents at RB. See the Ravens. See the Browns and Steelers and on and on and on.
Teams pay for RBs. They pay for WRs. They pay for QBs. They pay for pass rushers. And corners.
We paid half for the RB and now have the shittiest running game in the NFL. Surprise!!!
I guess we can't have that here with NYG. Not ready yet I guess.
We're never ready for that and yet they signed guys like Burns and OL in the off-season. Go figure....
NYG Franchise is a stupid joke at this point. LEgendary talents avail themelves every now n then, but NYG always have some kind of built in excuse to not get that guy. "We're rebuilding"
You win by fielding dominant units. The Giants continue to field OK units and bad units. They will never win shit that way.
I know.....I know...NYG should tank or they shouldn't spend money now...wake me up when they should.
He's great player but he is limited just as all WR's are.
The Jets have either or both a a frontline problem or a coachign problem. To socre only 9 points vs Denver is a joke. Another stra WR added owiht their star WR and RB won't do muhc to fix them.
and yet the best teams in the NFL boast 1-2 per team.
Fans think they are overpaid. What else is new.
Great WRs help you win games more than any other offensive player other than QB.
Running the ball is still as vital but fans see the running QB and make believe teams don't value the big time RBs. They do. See the Niners. See the Eagles and see Dallas who is probably kicking themselves for not going big after Barkley or even Pollard. See the Jets who have 2 big time talents at RB. See the Ravens. See the Browns and Steelers and on and on and on.
Teams pay for RBs. They pay for WRs. They pay for QBs. They pay for pass rushers. And corners.
We paid half for the RB and now have the shittiest running game in the NFL. Surprise!!!
First off, Barkley last year averaged 3.9 ypc and had 6 td's. Singletary has 3.9 ypc and is on pace for 8 TD's.
So yes, the running game is very important to winning, BUT bad teams paying for RB's is a recipe for disaster and there are 1000's of examples. Please tell me the last team to win a SB with a high priced RB.
usually the best QB wins in that small sample size but last year showed how that tide is starting to turn with the investments made at RB with 3 of the last 4 teams standing (SF, DET, BAL).
The goal is to win a SB and just about every team that has won over
the past many year has not had a high priced RB. That's not to say they didn't have a good running game because a good OL makes the running game. I'd say a 20 year span of SB winners is a fair qualifier, no?
I don't think the same can be said of WR's. You can't just plug in a 5th round WR and expect them to be legit #1's because the QB and OL are good. Great teams always have a high priced pass catcher(Gronk and Kelce fit the mold).
dominating the titles of the past 20 years (Mahomes, Brady, Mannings, etc) being all time greats. RBs are also a lot cheaper today than during a decent chunk of time (certainly the 2010s) where paying for one doesn’t seem all that high to me anymore (you can argue it’s a bargain). And I agree, bad teams shouldn’t pay for running backs which is why I was fine letting Barkley go.
when you have a mega star QB. You are losing money at another more important position. Most of the teams that won were paying their QB's big money and instead of paying for a RB, they invested in the line, a pass catcher and defense. Can't have it all and the most successful strategy is not paying the RB. Not 100% of the time, but not all that far off.
to pay one player 1/5 of your cap. Teams with that elite QB are just so far ahead it’s not fair with the current rules. The other teams with the next tier of QB have been spending on RB to get an edge and just haven’t broken through yet but it’s coming IMO.
Washington and the Jets also rumored destinations.
Adams to Jets could happen but I would keep an eye on Washington, New Orleans, Atlanta, Buffalo, Baltimore and the Rams.
If the Raiders were willing to eat a fair amount of that deal, he might be an interesting acquisition for a high day three pick. I wouldn't risk a first at all. I would listen to the idea of a second...to a degree.
That;s hwy it doesn't make sense for Jets.
Adams to Jets could happen but I would keep an eye on Washington, New Orleans, Atlanta, Buffalo, Baltimore and the Rams.
Veterans who got used to one way?
Or
Players that know how they should be treated?
They definitely need to upgrade. If I were Veach, I would call Carolina about Diontae Johnson. I think he has a lot of game left.
I think Rodgers would have a lot of say in such a deal.
If he’s disgruntled in LV why would he love it here? We should be sellers only until the ship has been righted.
Let the Commanders pay $72 million over the next 2 years for an over 30 WR. Will hamper their depth elsewhere
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He’d look real nice in Blue
If he’s disgruntled in LV why would he love it here? We should be sellers only until the ship has been righted.
I can't believe you haven't received GM offers yet. You speak with conviction.
Couldn’t agree more, and the reason they’re being overvalued in drafts is their FA contracts.
I think the market adjusts and we’ve seen the peek tbh. The analytics will point toward toward a +QB w a +OL will give create a +WR and a +RB that can be had cheaper and later in the draft.
We're never ready for that and yet they signed guys like Burns and OL in the off-season. Go figure....
NYG Franchise is a stupid joke at this point. LEgendary talents avail themelves every now n then, but NYG always have some kind of built in excuse to not get that guy. "We're rebuilding"
You win by fielding dominant units. The Giants continue to field OK units and bad units. They will never win shit that way.
I know.....I know...NYG should tank or they shouldn't spend money now...wake me up when they should.
They are ever ready to be buyers. Only sellers. It shows.
The best trade this franchise has made over the last 10 years was the one people still hate around here when they dealt the stupid 3rd rounder for Leonard Williams. They couldn't wait to deal him off last season. He's on his way to another very good season.
Just once I want this franchise to build and field a unit that actually boasts more than one great player. Maybe next decade.
This isn't even necessarily about Adams as much as how fucking boring and content this franchise is.
Just re-sign Slayton instead. Safe. Not a bad player by any means. Nice guy. Won't ever move the needle. Thx for shopping.
Fans think they are overpaid. What else is new.
Great WRs help you win games more than any other offensive player other than QB.
Running the ball is still as vital but fans see the running QB and make believe teams don't value the big time RBs. They do. See the Niners. See the Eagles and see Dallas who is probably kicking themselves for not going big after Barkley or even Pollard. See the Jets who have 2 big time talents at RB. See the Ravens. See the Browns and Steelers and on and on and on.
Teams pay for RBs. They pay for WRs. They pay for QBs. They pay for pass rushers. And corners.
We paid half for the RB and now have the shittiest running game in the NFL. Surprise!!!
We're never ready for that and yet they signed guys like Burns and OL in the off-season. Go figure....
NYG Franchise is a stupid joke at this point. LEgendary talents avail themelves every now n then, but NYG always have some kind of built in excuse to not get that guy. "We're rebuilding"
You win by fielding dominant units. The Giants continue to field OK units and bad units. They will never win shit that way.
I know.....I know...NYG should tank or they shouldn't spend money now...wake me up when they should.
He's great player but he is limited just as all WR's are.
The Jets have either or both a a frontline problem or a coachign problem. To socre only 9 points vs Denver is a joke. Another stra WR added owiht their star WR and RB won't do muhc to fix them.
Couldn’t agree more, I can’t believe they’ve kept him this long.
Fans think they are overpaid. What else is new.
Great WRs help you win games more than any other offensive player other than QB.
Running the ball is still as vital but fans see the running QB and make believe teams don't value the big time RBs. They do. See the Niners. See the Eagles and see Dallas who is probably kicking themselves for not going big after Barkley or even Pollard. See the Jets who have 2 big time talents at RB. See the Ravens. See the Browns and Steelers and on and on and on.
Teams pay for RBs. They pay for WRs. They pay for QBs. They pay for pass rushers. And corners.
We paid half for the RB and now have the shittiest running game in the NFL. Surprise!!!
Do you believe that's 100% on the running backs?
So yes, the running game is very important to winning, BUT bad teams paying for RB's is a recipe for disaster and there are 1000's of examples. Please tell me the last team to win a SB with a high priced RB.
I don't think the same can be said of WR's. You can't just plug in a 5th round WR and expect them to be legit #1's because the QB and OL are good. Great teams always have a high priced pass catcher(Gronk and Kelce fit the mold).