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NFT: ⚾Mets vs. Phillies NLDS thread⚾ Game 1 – 4:08 pm EDT start ⚾

Optimus-NY : 10/5/2024 1:05 pm
Welcome to this best-of-five National League Division Series thread between the 6th seeded Mets (89-73) & the 2nd seeded N.L. East Champion Phillies (95-67). The Mets beat the Brewers by the hairs on their chinny-chin-chins in the NLWS two days ago despite losing the season series to them during the regular season. The Phillies, like the Brewers, won the regular season series against the Mets 7 games to 6. The Mets will be looking for some payback against the Phillies the same way they did against the Brewers. Click HERE to read a preview of this Playoff Series. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets @ Phillies: Game 1 –⚾Senga (R) vs. Wheeler (R)⚾– 4:08 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today & tomorrow against the Phillies in the city of co-called Brotherly Love.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised on FOX, but tomorrow afternoon’s game will be televised on FS1.
-The weather forecast for today's game at Citizen’s Bank Park is excellent. Click HERE to keep updated & see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-These two teams are VERY familiar with each other. The Mets are now going to be back in their own time-zone for the first time in approximately two weeks when they played their last home game on the 22nd of September. Click HERE too see the Mets’ 26-man roster for the NLDS against the Phillies.

-Click HERE to see the list of the Mets’ roster transactions so far in October.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active playoff roster for this series.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Martinez (R), Acuña (R), & Bader (R).
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G1 SP  
GF1080 : 10/11/2024 12:56 pm : link
I think it makes sense Senga game 1 as you can stretch him out in case we keep going. Megill can piggyback off Senga and that gives DP more rest. Megill coming in as a piggyback knowing Senga will go 3 maybe 4 innings is better than him not knowing his role. And not that G1 isn't important but if we can sneak a W in with the Senga/Megill combo it makes it look that much better when and if Senga has a to go a 2nd game in the series.
It also interesting on what the opponent will have to do  
bhill410 : 10/11/2024 2:00 pm : link
Presumably dodgers will be Flaherty unless he comes in as relief (which msg be best case scenario for Mets). For padres I would assume King?
RE: RE: RE: .  
JayBinQueens : 10/11/2024 2:47 pm : link
In comment 16642956 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Citi Field finally has an identity. They are reaching out to the fans and making it a mets home field, not just a billboard for corporate sponsors.


Are you (or anyone) able to elaborate on this? Wasn't able to get to Citi this field with an under 1 year old at home, so didn't see any changes that took place this season
Bring on the Dodgers  
dannysection 313 : 10/11/2024 11:03 pm : link
Very talented team....

But, it's the NLCS....you're going to play someone very good.

LGM
Mets vs. Dodgers NLCS is set.  
Optimus-NY : 10/11/2024 11:59 pm : link
Revenge for 1988. Better matchup for the Mets. The Padres would've been a tougher test due to their bullpen. Better overall roster than the Dodgers. Mets' LHPs matchup better against the Dodgers' lefty hitters. Quintana, Manaea, and Peterson will earn their money this coming series. I'd replace Otto with a second lefty in the pen, in Lucchesi. McNeil will prolly be on the NLCS roster too in place of Acuna IMO. We'll find out Sunday morning NY time.
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DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 10:09 am : link
Ken Guthrie, the Orioles scout who helped sign Jackson Holliday, Heston Kjerstad and Creed Willems, has departed the organization for a position with the Mets, two sources said
Senga game 1, Manaea game 2  
dannysection 313 : 10/12/2024 11:13 am : link
Mendoza just confirmed.

Sounds like McNeil will be on the roster for the NLCS.

LGM
AFL  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 11:22 am : link
Scottsdale falls again (6-1) Jett Williams 2-2,3B, 2BB, CS (started in CF), Jacob Reimer 0-1, 3 BB (played LF), Jeff McNeil 1-4, BB, Jawilme Ramirez 0.2 innings 2 hits 1 run 0 walks 1 k #Mets
RE: Senga game 1, Manaea game 2  
Eric on Li : 10/12/2024 11:34 am : link
In comment 16643683 dannysection 313 said:
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Mendoza just confirmed.

Sounds like McNeil will be on the roster for the NLCS.

LGM


holding manaea for game 3 was the 1 thing i didnt like about the initially reported schedule so i like this a lot.

excited to see mcneil back in action too, he's never faced Flaherty but id start him over iglesias since he's struggled and hope to catch lightning in bottle. winker looks like he should hit 5th behind alonso.

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Ten Ton Hammer : 10/12/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16643412 JayBinQueens said:
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Citi Field finally has an identity. They are reaching out to the fans and making it a mets home field, not just a billboard for corporate sponsors.



Are you (or anyone) able to elaborate on this? Wasn't able to get to Citi this field with an under 1 year old at home, so didn't see any changes that took place this season


Hardly comprehensive, but they put the Hall of Fame plaques in the rotunda now. The Seaver statue is not new, was dedicated in 2022, but that went a long way toward changing the mood.
The food and drink options are fantastic, and a lot of them are local brands. I think it's been voted best ballpark food in MLB for two years now.

In the Delta club, it's been dressed up with Mets-centric visuals. There's a David Wright collage in there that kinda reminds me of the neon silhouettes that were on the exterior of Shea.

The team store is like three times what it used to be.

The stadium lightning has been upgraded so you can see the blue and orange LED lights. Everything is more visually 'Mets' overall, which I appreciate.

I don't remember ever having fireworks for Wilpon-era postseason wins, but we had them after clinching the NLDS.

Some people don't like the dance team, but I think it's fun.


The Mets aren't supposed to be the Giants or the Yankees coat and tie aesthetic. There should be a sense of fun around this franchise. They really lean into the Mets culture. Mr. Met is all over the pace. And of course, Cohen has done a fantastic job bringing back former players and allowing them to be part of it. That didn't happen with the last owners. They were almost ashamed of the 86 team.



the last ownership was cheap, shameless, and stupid  
Eric on Li : 10/12/2024 11:43 am : link
all around bad combination. it's a miracle citi turned out the way it did.
The  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 11:56 am : link
Mets should steal from the playoff Knicks and have an alumni row of ex-players at game 3.
RE: the last ownership was cheap, shameless, and stupid  
GF1080 : 10/12/2024 12:23 pm : link
In comment 16643702 Eric on Li said:
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all around bad combination. it's a miracle citi turned out the way it did.


There are not enough bad words in the English language to describe previous ownership and his weasel son. Made me sick seeing him in his suite the other night.
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Optimus-NY : 10/12/2024 1:17 pm : link
In comment 16643653 DanMetroMan said:
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Ken Guthrie, the Orioles scout who helped sign Jackson Holliday, Heston Kjerstad and Creed Willems, has departed the organization for a position with the Mets, two sources said


Nice!
RE: The  
Optimus-NY : 10/12/2024 1:21 pm : link
In comment 16643712 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets should steal from the playoff Knicks and have an alumni row of ex-players at game 3.


Great idea! I want Darryl to throw out the first pitch for Game 3 at Citi Field.
RE: RE: the last ownership was cheap, shameless, and stupid  
Optimus-NY : 10/12/2024 1:25 pm : link
In comment 16643728 GF1080 said:
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all around bad combination. it's a miracle citi turned out the way it did.



There are not enough bad words in the English language to describe previous ownership and his weasel son. Made me sick seeing him in his suite the other night.


Jeff is a villain and disgusting piece of mierda. Did they actually show him on TV???
RE: RE: RE: the last ownership was cheap, shameless, and stupid  
GF1080 : 10/12/2024 1:38 pm : link
In comment 16643749 Optimus-NY said:
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all around bad combination. it's a miracle citi turned out the way it did.



There are not enough bad words in the English language to describe previous ownership and his weasel son. Made me sick seeing him in his suite the other night.



Jeff is a villain and disgusting piece of mierda. Did they actually show him on TV???


I saw Fred. Not sure if jeff was there. Unfortunately they still do own a part of the team.
Cohen buying the team  
Dr. D : 10/12/2024 3:12 pm : link
was the best thing to happen for Mets fans since 1986, imo.
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DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 3:33 pm : link
Alden González
@Alden_Gonzalez
Here's how it could go for the Dodgers in the NLCS ...

G1: Jack Flaherty
G2: Walker Buehler
G3: bullpen
G4: Yoshinobu Yamamoto
G5: Flaherty
G6: Buehler
G7: bullpen

Yamamoto was expected to remain on five days' rest, but Flaherty can come back for Game 5 if he's on normal rest.
This  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 3:33 pm : link
is a MUST watch
Link - ( New Window )
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pjcas18 : 10/12/2024 3:47 pm : link
In comment 16643747 Optimus-NY said:
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Ken Guthrie, the Orioles scout who helped sign Jackson Holliday, Heston Kjerstad and Creed Willems, has departed the organization for a position with the Mets, two sources said



Nice!


DMM knows more than me, but I could have scouted Jackson Holliday. He was the #1 overall pick and likely would have been for whoever had the #1 pick. Kjerstad has been a disappointment IMO, after being a highly ranked prospect. Had a mid rookie season at 25, is 26 before next spring training.

Creed Willems could pan out, and I don't know a ton about him, but his profile seems also mid.

hope it works out and this scout is lights out with the Mets but I'm not impressed by that track record that was shared for those 3 players specifically.
Fred by himself had a very good reputation  
Eric on Li : 10/12/2024 4:00 pm : link
i thought his doubleday doublecross was messed up but I knew some people who knew him a long time and were loyal to him.

NOBODY had anything close to a good thing to say about jeff including all of those same people that deeply respected Fred. if it werent for jeff einhorn would have owned the team a decade ago and we may have been out of the madoff tailspin a lot sooner. his own family members leaking against him during the cohen purchase process was not surprising.
Generally  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 4:03 pm : link
speaking, scouts given "credit" for highly regarded/drafted prospects is just a way to fluff up otherwise "boring" news. I can't say I recognize this guys name, he may well be a good scout (comes from a good organization when it comes to players like Holliday etc, the scouts are one of multiple in an organization with eyes on them, and at best cultivate relationships. I suspect the Mets bring in multiple new scouts and some will be credited with xyz and others not credited for much at all and neither will mean much
I  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 4:04 pm : link
am curious to hear more about the new international scouting director (James Kang).
Nelson Doubleday  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 4:05 pm : link
“Jeff Wilpon said he’s going to learn how to run a baseball team and take over at the end of the year. Run for the hills, boys. I think probably all those baseball people will bail.”
Or  
DanMetroMan : 10/12/2024 4:06 pm : link
how about the first sale where Jeff wanted to run the team for 5 years while Cohen owned the team lol
RE: Or  
Eric on Li : 10/12/2024 4:10 pm : link
In comment 16643919 DanMetroMan said:
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how about the first sale where Jeff wanted to run the team for 5 years while Cohen owned the team lol


the best was when a-rod/j-lo gave him the bs that they'd let him do that as part of their offer. the doubleday quotes re jeff were 100% prophetic.
It’s funny how quickly rich people give up anything/everything  
CooperDash : 10/12/2024 4:24 pm : link
they cherish when faced with having to give up their lifestyle. The Wilpons’ ass was in the jackpot and fortunately for Mets fans, Cohen was waiting in the wings to scoop up the team. Best thing to ever happen to the Mets.

Fred was the Mets owner that desperately wanted to be the Dodgers owner. And it showed - very publicly. Disgusting owner. Disgusting person.
RE: Fred by himself had a very good reputation  
GF1080 : 10/12/2024 6:03 pm : link
In comment 16643909 Eric on Li said:
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i thought his doubleday doublecross was messed up but I knew some people who knew him a long time and were loyal to him.

NOBODY had anything close to a good thing to say about jeff including all of those same people that deeply respected Fred. if it werent for jeff einhorn would have owned the team a decade ago and we may have been out of the madoff tailspin a lot sooner. his own family members leaking against him during the cohen purchase process was not surprising.


IDK Fred is the one who made it new stadium and ode to the dodgers and not the team he he owned.
RE: RE: Fred by himself had a very good reputation  
CooperDash : 10/12/2024 6:25 pm : link
In comment 16644007 GF1080 said:
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i thought his doubleday doublecross was messed up but I knew some people who knew him a long time and were loyal to him.

NOBODY had anything close to a good thing to say about jeff including all of those same people that deeply respected Fred. if it werent for jeff einhorn would have owned the team a decade ago and we may have been out of the madoff tailspin a lot sooner. his own family members leaking against him during the cohen purchase process was not surprising.



IDK Fred is the one who made it new stadium and ode to the dodgers and not the team he he owned.


And the Jackie Robinson Rotunda (shrine). And his obsession with Sandy Koufax and inviting him to spring training each year.

While ignoring the history of his own team. Despicable.
RE: RE: Fred by himself had a very good reputation  
Eric on Li : 10/12/2024 6:42 pm : link
In comment 16644007 GF1080 said:
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i thought his doubleday doublecross was messed up but I knew some people who knew him a long time and were loyal to him.

NOBODY had anything close to a good thing to say about jeff including all of those same people that deeply respected Fred. if it werent for jeff einhorn would have owned the team a decade ago and we may have been out of the madoff tailspin a lot sooner. his own family members leaking against him during the cohen purchase process was not surprising.



IDK Fred is the one who made it new stadium and ode to the dodgers and not the team he he owned.


nobody who knew him for decades was respecting him or not because of decor decisions at citifield. none of us would care about it if they won big either.

from what i know fred is/was a mostly decent guy who made some bad choices. jeff is/was a pos who was almost unanimously loathed. his next good choice may be his first.
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Optimus-NY : 10/12/2024 6:49 pm : link
In comment 16643756 GF1080 said:
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all around bad combination. it's a miracle citi turned out the way it did.



There are not enough bad words in the English language to describe previous ownership and his weasel son. Made me sick seeing him in his suite the other night.



Jeff is a villain and disgusting piece of mierda. Did they actually show him on TV???



I saw Fred. Not sure if jeff was there. Unfortunately they still do own a part of the team.


I know. 5 percent unfortunately. I hope Cohen can cajole them into selling that portion to him soon too. These cretins also own the majority stake in SNY.
otto off the roster mcneil on  
Eric on Li : 10/13/2024 1:42 pm : link
a little surprised but it makes sense. there are good reasons both he/young haven't pitched, i expected them to take his experience over young's handedness but neither should matter all that much. neither should get into a game unless something has gone very wrong or very right.
RE: otto off the roster mcneil on  
Rory : 10/13/2024 1:47 pm : link
In comment 16644406 Eric on Li said:
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a little surprised but it makes sense. there are good reasons both he/young haven't pitched, i expected them to take his experience over young's handedness but neither should matter all that much. neither should get into a game unless something has gone very wrong or very right.


Glad they kept Young. Keeps usage of Peterson fluid.

MLB should expand rosters at this round and world series
RE: RE: otto off the roster mcneil on  
Eric on Li : 10/13/2024 2:02 pm : link
In comment 16644410 Rory said:
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a little surprised but it makes sense. there are good reasons both he/young haven't pitched, i expected them to take his experience over young's handedness but neither should matter all that much. neither should get into a game unless something has gone very wrong or very right.



Glad they kept Young. Keeps usage of Peterson fluid.

MLB should expand rosters at this round and world series


the 2 off days in between the road travel effectively solves that so honestly dont think it matters all that much. you are only running low on the replacement level pen arms if there are 2 blowouts, and in that case your best guys probably arent pitching too much so they are fine for game 3+ and probably pitching no matter what since you are probably down 0-2.

if they had to throw each of young / megill / butto until their arms fell off in games 1 or 2, any players that throw way beyond their norms in a game because of situational need there will be some kind of real strain be it "tricep soreness" or "arm fatigue" or whatever they want to call it. so i think you could IL that player for Otto or Brazoban or Kranick or Luccessi without pulling an eppler.

obviously if they end up in a high BP usage situation due to SP getting actually injured and leaving early, then it would be that player going on the IL and more fresh arms available.

all in all the decision to keep someone like Acuna over an extra RP is a pretty easy one.
NLCS roster in visual form @optimus  
Eric on Li : 10/13/2024 2:13 pm : link
may want to put this in the top post of the new thread for LAD series.



pretty remarkable that other than brooks raley, drew smith, christian scott, and nunez the roster appears to be pretty much fully healthy when it matters most.

the position player depth in particular is exceptional. really fully loaded for any situation. they should go into every game with 2 of iglesias (R), mcneil (L), marte (R), winker (L), JDM (R) available off the bench as necessary to hit.

plus 2 of bader, taylor, acuna to pinch run or come in for defensive purposes.

as long as this team keeps grinding good at bats they are going to seriously test any opposing teams pitching depth.
RE: NLCS roster in visual form @optimus  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 2:15 pm : link
In comment 16644433 Eric on Li said:
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may want to put this in the top post of the new thread for LAD series.



pretty remarkable that other than brooks raley, drew smith, christian scott, and nunez the roster appears to be pretty much fully healthy when it matters most.

the position player depth in particular is exceptional. really fully loaded for any situation. they should go into every game with 2 of iglesias (R), mcneil (L), marte (R), winker (L), JDM (R) available off the bench as necessary to hit.

plus 2 of bader, taylor, acuna to pinch run or come in for defensive purposes.

as long as this team keeps grinding good at bats they are going to seriously test any opposing teams pitching depth.


Will do. Thanks Eric! I'll start the thread once the lineups are out and link it here.
Here's an article from MLB.com about the Mets' NLCS roster:  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 2:36 pm : link
McNeil, Acuña both make Mets' NLCS roster; Ottavino off | 2:14 pm EDT | By Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo
Here's an article from MLB.com about the Dodgers' NLCS roster:  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 2:38 pm : link
Dodgers release NLCS roster: Kiermaier, Honeywell on; Rojas, Vesia off | 1:36 PM EDT | By Juan Toribio | @juanctoribio
The new series thread for the NLCS against the Dodgers is up now:  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 4:34 pm : link
The lineups for both squads are now out. Click below for the thread please...


NFT: ⚾Mets vs. Dodgers NLCS thread⚾ Game 1 – 8:15 pm EDT start ⚾ | Optimus-NY | 4:21 pm - ( New Window )
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