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NFT: ⚾Mets vs. Phillies NLDS thread⚾ Game 1 – 4:08 pm EDT start ⚾

Optimus-NY : 10/5/2024 1:05 pm
Welcome to this best-of-five National League Division Series thread between the 6th seeded Mets (89-73) & the 2nd seeded N.L. East Champion Phillies (95-67). The Mets beat the Brewers by the hairs on their chinny-chin-chins in the NLWS two days ago despite losing the season series to them during the regular season. The Phillies, like the Brewers, won the regular season series against the Mets 7 games to 6. The Mets will be looking for some payback against the Phillies the same way they did against the Brewers. Click HERE to read a preview of this Playoff Series. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets @ Phillies: Game 1 –⚾Senga (R) vs. Wheeler (R)⚾– 4:08 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for today & tomorrow against the Phillies in the city of co-called Brotherly Love.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised on FOX, but tomorrow afternoon’s game will be televised on FS1.
-The weather forecast for today's game at Citizen’s Bank Park is excellent. Click HERE to keep updated & see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-These two teams are VERY familiar with each other. The Mets are now going to be back in their own time-zone for the first time in approximately two weeks when they played their last home game on the 22nd of September. Click HERE too see the Mets’ 26-man roster for the NLDS against the Phillies.

-Click HERE to see the list of the Mets’ roster transactions so far in October.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active playoff roster for this series.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Martinez (R), Acuña (R), & Bader (R).
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Lucas  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 12:54 pm : link
Erceg another example of the type of arm I hope they look at (he himself, obviously not available) even if it costs them some minor league talent. Erceg 61.2 innings 2.53 FIP 10.5 k/9, 1.17 FIP post trade.
Have  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 12:55 pm : link
to wonder if the Mets explore signing Chapman again this off-season.
Fangraphs  
GF1080 : 10/9/2024 1:10 pm : link
Leaderboards still free. Not sure about roster resource.
RE: Fangraphs  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 1:13 pm : link
In comment 16641623 GF1080 said:
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Leaderboards still free. Not sure about roster resource.


Looks like prospect lists and articles won't be once you've read 10.
RE: RE: RE: RE: just looked up de los santos of course he tanked in miami AAA too  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 1:23 pm : link
In comment 16641546 DanMetroMan said:
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Vientos was never really a 1b (11 career appearances headed into 2022) but Pipeline had him ranked similarly to De Los Santos (#9 3b prospect in baseball prior to the 2022 season


interesting i didnt remember him ranking that well recently. i do think that's probably close to where de los santos' best case value was, but having seen how much criticism vientos got even as he was consistently one of the best power hitters in AAA i can only imagine how his prospect status from there would have been viewed if he'd ever posted a AAA stretch with a rc at 85. seidler types have been calling him a fatally flawed non-prospect for like 2 years. i literally argued it directly with seidler as recently march right before the JDM signing lol.
RE: RE: Fangraphs  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 1:25 pm : link
In comment 16641628 DanMetroMan said:
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Leaderboards still free. Not sure about roster resource.



Looks like prospect lists and articles won't be once you've read 10.


the quality of their lists/articles has gone down hill enough that would be a big loss. i was already some level of member from their old donation program so i will probably try it for a year and post anything notable here.
I  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 1:26 pm : link
still think BA is worth the money. The website itself kind of sucks given how well known it is/how long it's been around but they post new content every day and while no source is every going to be "perfect". I do find myself checking out BA daily.
RE: Have  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 1:30 pm : link
In comment 16641610 DanMetroMan said:
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to wonder if the Mets explore signing Chapman again this off-season.


i think the move is to go for scott on a 3 year x 40m or something like that.

diaz has shown this year they need a back up option at closer. having a lefty version of him is perfect.

where the brazoban and maton pickups are great is that they have some cost certainty for next year. garrett, butto, and hopefully nunez help with that too. possibly 1 of the youngs as well?

so unlike prior years they dont need 2 or 3 additions to the pen, i think they need 1 high end addition. id pick the lefty who throws almost 100 mph with a wipe out slider and a 52% ground ball rate. i just hope his 0 era in the postseason doesn't add another selling point to this list if we end up facing them next series.

I'd  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 1:49 pm : link
love to be wrong but I have a bad feeling Nunez is going to need TJ (his second). Guess we shall see.
RE: I'd  
Optimus-NY : 10/9/2024 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16641668 DanMetroMan said:
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love to be wrong but I have a bad feeling Nunez is going to need TJ (his second). Guess we shall see.


I don't trust him being healthy long-term. What about Christian Scott? Do you put him in the rotation or the bullpen?
RE: RE: I'd  
GF1080 : 10/9/2024 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16641680 Optimus-NY said:
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love to be wrong but I have a bad feeling Nunez is going to need TJ (his second). Guess we shall see.



I don't trust him being healthy long-term. What about Christian Scott? Do you put him in the rotation or the bullpen?


2026 rotation if we have a spot. Have a long ways to go until then.
Scott  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 2:03 pm : link
won't be back until 2026, and has now had 2 elbow tears but I strongly suspect they allow him to start unless he proves he's unable to handle it.
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DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 2:04 pm : link
RE: I'd  
DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 2:06 pm : link
In comment 16641668 DanMetroMan said:
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love to be wrong but I have a bad feeling Nunez is going to need TJ (his second). Guess we shall see.


FWIW I haven't been told that Nunez needed TJ, rather "he won't be back any time soon". Now that may well have meant just 2024 but the fact he had a PRP injection, then was ruled out for the playoffs (almost a month ago) leads me to believe it's not great.
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DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 2:24 pm : link
Tim Healey
@timbhealey
Jeff McNeil will play in the AFL on Friday and Saturday.

Carlos Mendoza said the Mets want to see him play back-to-back games of nine innings.
If today and Friday don’t go our way  
bhill410 : 10/9/2024 3:01 pm : link
You will never see a person remove himself from an AFL lineup faster.
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DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 4:01 pm : link
Mets News and Links
@JohnFromAlbany
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RHP Noah Hall is the first Mets Pitching Prospect to start in the AFL this year. He was named starting pitcher for this Friday's Game at 9:30 Eastern.
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DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 4:08 pm : link
Jake Brown
@JakeBrownRadio
BREAKING: The Mets have dropped standing room down to $103.50 to get in Citi Field tonight. Cheapest price I have seen. Going to be a zoo. Be there. #LGM
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DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 4:22 pm : link
Mendoza also emphasized that he looks at pitch movement and velocity and is absolutely right to focus on those process statistics. Thirty-one pitches can be enough to give us this kind of window into how Senga is feeling. That’s just about enough of a sample to start getting information on aspects like velocity, movement and spin — things that pitchers tend to repeat well once they establish a baseline. Even just one start tells us a lot about a pitcher returning from injury — 68 percent of all starts after a return from the injured list are within 0.8 mph of the fastball velocity the starter shows in their first start back.

So that’s the bad news for Senga. In his first start back after calf and triceps problems, he showed the third-worst fastball velocity of his career. At least he had decent ride (vertical movement), but by velocity it wasn’t a good game. And, as you can see from the whiff rates (the colors on the dots), he generally gets a lot more whiffs when he throws harder — a global trend that remains true for Senga in particular.

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I wonder if the Mets  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2024 4:28 pm : link
had a comparable offer for Lucas Erceg what it would have been.

He'd look great in the Mets pen right now.

Such an under the radar trade paying dividends for KC. And he's cost controlled until 2030.
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DanMetroMan : 10/9/2024 5:03 pm : link
Conversation
Jake Brown
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BREAKING: The Mets have dropped standing room down to $103.50 to get in Citi Field tonight. Cheapest price I have seen. Going to be a zoo. Be there. #LGM
Jake Brown
@JakeBrownRadio
UPDATE: The Mets have dropped the standing room prices to $80!!!
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 10/9/2024 5:09 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets vs. Phillies: | 5:08 pm EDT start - October 9, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – FS1 (strfish.xyz)

Mets vs. Phillies: | 5:08 pm EDT start - October 9, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – FS1 (dudestream.com)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets vs. Phillies – October 9, 2024 - 5:08 pm EDT start


Enjoy today's game 😊


P.S. Happy 36th birthday to Starling Marte!
real good first from quintana  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 5:20 pm : link
an experienced lefty is helpful vs the first part of philly's lineup. both schwarber/harper had reverse splits vs lefties this year but historically are 20-25% less productive vs lefties.
XBH machine at it again  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 5:23 pm : link
108mph double off the wall. he has historically crushed suarez. think he homered off him 2 or 3 times last year including once in the minors.
looks like alonso beat out an IF single to load the bases with 1 out  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 5:29 pm : link
omg coming up with jdm on deck.
2 bad at bats from iglesias and jdm  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 5:36 pm : link
got a lot of pitches on suarez but he really got himself through a jam. struck out iglesias on 3 straight then got jdm relatively easily.

gotta keep working counts and putting suarez in uncomfortable positions. keep stretching their BP.
how do we go from being patient at the plate  
Rory : 10/9/2024 5:36 pm : link
with the top of the lineup and then get super agro with the middle.

not happy with Jose or JD's at bats there. that was horrible.
RE: 2 bad at bats from iglesias and jdm  
Rory : 10/9/2024 5:37 pm : link
In comment 16641876 Eric on Li said:
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got a lot of pitches on suarez but he really got himself through a jam. struck out iglesias on 3 straight then got jdm relatively easily.

gotta keep working counts and putting suarez in uncomfortable positions. keep stretching their BP.


yes lol
big sexy looking not so big  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 5:39 pm : link
And Quintana  
Mike in NY : 10/9/2024 5:40 pm : link
Driving up his own pitch count being nowhere near the plate
nice at bat from marte getting things back on track  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 5:46 pm : link
worked a good walk on a close 8th pitch. suarez up to 37. if they can get him to 50 pitches in the first 2 innings just 1x through the order that would be very good.
bohm just bungles the 3rd out, bases loaded for nimmo with 2 out  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 5:53 pm : link
have suarez up to 51 pitches already but cant keep blowing opportunities to cash in. phillies use a mound visit. another early momentum moment.
Let's knock  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2024 6:03 pm : link
Suarez out here
that inside slider Q  
Rory : 10/9/2024 6:05 pm : link
has is a nice set up pitch to his sweeper. I think with 1 more quick inning he could go 7 tonight. He's almost fully locked in.

Anyone else think Pete hits one here?
RE: Let's knock  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 6:07 pm : link
In comment 16641895 JayBinQueens said:
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Suarez out here


nice full count walk from alonso to start him off. someone needs to get a big hit.
2 strikeouts of iglesias with a bunch of whiffs is pretty remarkable  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 6:09 pm : link
he is not a guy who k's or whiffs a lot.

need JDM to come through here. veteran moment for a righty hitter.
And Martinez does exactly what we didn’t need  
Mike in NY : 10/9/2024 6:11 pm : link
He and Iglesias have been momentum killers today
that curve ball from Suarez  
Rory : 10/9/2024 6:13 pm : link
has crazy movement. We need to get him out of the game, keep laying off, I think Marte and Vientos have come closest. keep staying with it...almost at 70 pitches.

What's Hoffmans read?
RE: And Martinez does exactly what we didn’t need  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 6:13 pm : link
In comment 16641905 Mike in NY said:
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He and Iglesias have been momentum killers today


brutally so. i keep waiting for a JDM breakout but it may not be there. in the last 2 weeks his avg EV started to go up and his hh% is 53%, but it just hasnt clicked.
top of the lineup  
Rory : 10/9/2024 6:42 pm : link
coming up. Time for someone to build their legacy.

Strong inning by Q, wonder if he gets a shot at the 6th.
3rd time through have to get to suarez here  
Eric on Li : 10/9/2024 6:45 pm : link
he has done a remarkable job to get to this point with just 83 pitches.

and on queue leadoff double from lindor. huge. phillies have a decision to make. vientos good vs suarez.
Do not want to go  
cjac : 10/9/2024 7:03 pm : link
Back to Philly

Leaving all those runs on base early might end this season
I am worried about going back to Philly  
Mike in NY : 10/9/2024 7:19 pm : link
In addition to being the visitor there, we are having to burn our best bullpen options and Senga isn’t going to give depth. If we lose we might have to use Sevy on short rest.
hell yea , wtg Garret with that big pitch #1  
Rory : 10/9/2024 7:19 pm : link
and fuck yea ! David Peterson. Big pitch #2

Let's fucking go.
For fucks sake  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2024 7:32 pm : link
please score this time with the bases loaded
RE: For fucks sake  
Mike in NY : 10/9/2024 7:33 pm : link
In comment 16641960 JayBinQueens said:
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please score this time with the bases loaded


If we don’t we deserve to lose this series
Lindor  
Eli owns all : 10/9/2024 7:34 pm : link
Got this
Lets  
Eli owns all : 10/9/2024 7:36 pm : link
Fucking
Gooooo
Lindor!!!!  
pjcas18 : 10/9/2024 7:37 pm : link
!!!
GRAND SLAM!  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2024 7:37 pm : link
LINDOR!!
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