Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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3m
Giants CB Dru Phillips (calf) working out pregame in shirts and shorts for Brian Daboll, DB coach Jerome Henderson and DC Shane Bowen, in addition to Aaron Wellman and other members of the training staff.
Listed as questionable.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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6m
CB Dru Phillips, who is questionable with a calf injury, is going through a pregame workout. Daboll, DB coach Jerome Henderson and head strength coach Aaron Wellman are observing. Seems like a bad idea to push a rookie DB through a calf injury if there are any questions.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Giants-Seahawks pregame thoughts:
• The notion that the Giants have no chance without Malik Nabers is overblown. This is the NFL. Teams win games without star players every week. This is a comparable skill group that played the Seahawks last season, but with an improved O-line. Granted, they only scored three points in that game, but they can't use Nabers' absence as an excuse to not be able to score today. The Broncos and Patriots each scored 20 points against Seattle this season.
• Now, I'm not saying I think the Giants have much of a chance today. That's because I think Seattle is a bad matchup even when the Giants are at full strength. I know what Minnesota and Washington are doing, but this is the most dynamic offense the Giants have faced this season. Seattle's wide receivers have a huge advantage over the Giants' DBs. And even though it's a different coaching staff, this Seattle defense has suffocated the Giants the past two seasons.
• The Seahawks will bring back some bad memories for Brian Daboll and Daniel Jones. Jones threw a killer 97-yard pick-six in last season's matchup, with rookie corner Devon Witherspoon saying he knew Jones liked to stare down his first read, which helped him jump the route. That led to Daboll's infamous disgusted tablet flip on the sideline.
• I'll be monitoring how well Jones is moving today. He was hobbling through the locker room after Thursday's practice. I didn't hear of any injury and he looked better on Friday, so maybe he just did a heavy leg day in the weight room. But it's something to at least keep an eye on, as he is still working back from a torn ACL. Everyone always says they don't feel fully back to normal for a while after returning.
• I expect Tyrone Tracy to be the No. 1 RB and Eric Gray to rotate in with Devin Singletary out. I would be surprised if Dante Miller has much of a role on offense (and I expect the kick returners to be Gray and Ihmir Smith-Marsette).
• I know there's a lot of anticipation about a potential Jalin Hyatt breakout with Nabers out. But realistically, a Hyatt breakout just comes down to him catching one or two deep balls. I expect Darius Slayton to see the biggest target increase in Nabers' absence, with Isaiah Hodgins also figuring to get opportunities in the red zone.
• Can copy and paste this defensive blue print every week: The pass rush needs to dominate a suspect offensive line to give the Giants a chance. Seattle is shaky at every spot aside from LT, so there will be mismatches to exploit. They need to figure out a way to free up Dexter Lawrence from the constant double teams he's facing (more stunts?) and the edge rusher matched up with Seattle's third-string RT needs to make game-changing plays like Brian Burns' strip sack against Cleveland.
• Geno Smith is playing with a ridiculous amount of confidence. He's excellent at navigating the pocket and he'll rip throws into tight windows. If he has time, the Giants have no chance of matching up with Seattle's talent on the perimeter.
• This is a big week for Deonte Banks. He got called out by DB coach Jerome Henderson for his lack of effort on CeeDee Lamb's touchdown last week. And it's generally been a rough second season covering opposing No. 1 WRs.
DK Metcalf is as tough a matchup as any WR. Seattle will exploit Banks' weakness of not finding the ball because Geno will fire it to Metcalf even if he's covered. Banks held up well while traveling with Metcalf last season, allowing only three catches for 34 yards. But one of those catches was a 6-yard TD when Metcalf used late hands to school Banks, who was in tight coverage but had no idea the ball was zipping past him.
It's impossible to replicate the size (6-4, 235) and speed (4.33 40) of Metcalf in practice. But Bryce Ford-Wheaton (6-3, 220, 4.38) gave as good a look as possible this week in practice. Banks has said that Metcalf talked the most trash during his rookie season. I heard the coaches had Ford-Wheaton go after Banks after the whistle during practices to get the corner ready for the chippy matchup.
• I don't say this as a criticism, but Kenneth Walker plays like a high school RB. He just looks like the fastest, most athletic player on the field so he makes seemingly bad decisions to bounce runs or cut all the way across the field, but he makes it work (5.7 yards per carry). The Giants' run defense has done well against two bad rushing offenses since getting shredded by Washington. Walker will be a major challenge to their run fits and tackling. The players on the back side better be disciplined or he'll break a long one by reversing field.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
These always put body language reading skills to the test. It seemed like it was positive when Phillips finished, but then there was an extended huddle with Daboll, Henderson, Wellman, Joe Schoen, Shane Bowen and rehab director Leigh Weiss. Don't think a lengthy meeting would be necessary if it was all systems go. So my guess is either inactive or active in a limited role
when the opposition has the ball, forcing a silent count the entire game. I fully expect repeated offside calls (receivers, running backs, O-line leaving early). Couple this with Jones not being able to find a secondary receiver and not being able to hit a downfield receiver. Offensively, it will be ugly.
when the opposition has the ball, forcing a silent count the entire game. I fully expect repeated offside calls (receivers, running backs, O-line leaving early). Couple this with Jones not being able to find a secondary receiver and not being able to hit a downfield receiver. Offensively, it will be ugly.
You, and many others, seem to over look the fact that the Giants defense is not very good, they still can not stop the run or defense the TE. The defense got carved up by San Darnold who was 14 or 32 today so we can look forward to Geno Smith to have a huge day. The blame for the Giants failures are not tall on Daniele Jones' shoulders!
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Mike Kafka is walking laps around the field with Leslie Frazier, who is the Seahawks' assistant head coach. Kafka has been stopped by a few Seahawks staffers for greetings. Kafka had two interviews for Seattle's head coaching vacancy this offseason, and their request for an OC interview was denied by the Giants.
I find it depressing this place is dead before a game like ths
Where the Giants are playing for their season. About 80% of this board has already given up on the year. Really sad. I mantain if the Giants had Phillips and Jackson last week, they would have beaten the Cowboys in a low scoring game. They can do it today.
Where the Giants are playing for their season. About 80% of this board has already given up on the year. Really sad. I mantain if the Giants had Phillips and Jackson last week, they would have beaten the Cowboys in a low scoring game. They can do it today.
Why would fans want to keep subjecting themselves to this shit?
Where the Giants are playing for their season. About 80% of this board has already given up on the year. Really sad. I mantain if the Giants had Phillips and Jackson last week, they would have beaten the Cowboys in a low scoring game. They can do it today.
Why would fans want to keep subjecting themselves to this shit?
If the Giants had won last week and they were 2-2, what would the board be like today? It's like people completely ignore the fact the Giants were going up against an experienced passing attack and an elite receiver minus two starters in the secondary. Injuries matter.
With Nabers out, I expect Seattle will crowd the LOS to stop whatever limited run game we have, most of which will likely be runs straight into the LOS, especially on first down. We need to instead come out throwing, with play action. Feature the TEs. Nobody would expect that, since they have essentially been invisible the whole season.
The fact that Burns and KT have not been dominant despite Lawrence getting double teamed on almost every play shows how ineffective they have been. One of the main reasons for trading for Burns was to make teams pay for continually doubling Lawrence.
RE: I find it depressing this place is dead before a game like ths
Where the Giants are playing for their season. About 80% of this board has already given up on the year. Really sad. I mantain if the Giants had Phillips and Jackson last week, they would have beaten the Cowboys in a low scoring game. They can do it today.
The season was over 2 weeks ago brother.
It would be silly to maintain hope at this point. We've seen this movie before.
But it’s no surprise. It seems like season after season, we see the same thing.
Giants are 1-3 and 1-4 and 1-5 then maybe win a game or two and lose a bunch more so we are 3-9. They then win 2 or 3 straight and end the season 6-11 and the 10th pick in the draft.
Rinse, repeat.
Washington definitely tanked last season, trading away their ER’s, lose a ton and now have a young, exciting QB.
I said it all offseason…I don’t think the Giants ownership/FO realize how done the fan base is with Jones and that it would ugly early if they started off slow. I don’t think you needed to be Nostradamus to predict it easy. It was staring at me on the wall.
Nope. They recognize the mess at QB. I predicted the apathy back in November with my Daniel Jones article. Fans are done.
I get the Daniel Jones apathy. I'm just saying not all losses are created equal. The Giants offense didn't play well enough last week either. I get it. But that was a game to be won because the Cowboys didn't play well either outside of one homerun play. Maybe that home run would have been prevented if all the starters were in.
Nope. They recognize the mess at QB. I predicted the apathy back in November with my Daniel Jones article. Fans are done.
I get the Daniel Jones apathy. I'm just saying not all losses are created equal. The Giants offense didn't play well enough last week either. I get it. But that was a game to be won because the Cowboys didn't play well either outside of one homerun play. Maybe that home run would have been prevented if all the starters were in.
banks and nubin are starters first nad second roudn picks.
RE: Schoen/Daboll are lucky jets suck and mets/yankees are in postseason
the knicks/rangers/islanders/devil will start their season too.
Mara responds to fan and media pressure.
all in all - there wont be much for awhile on teh giants barring embarssing ass kickings.
^This. Many Giants fans also follow other sports teams. The Yankees and Mets are in the playoffs. The Rangers, Devils, and Knicks are starting their seasons. All are credible teams, especially the Knicks, who many fans rightly hope can challenge Boston this year. Many people also follow college teams.
People only have a limited amount of time to watch and follow sports teams. Those that play well will be prioritized. Those like the Giants that don't will likely be abandoned, at least for the rest of the season.
Wants the Giants to lose but I can honestly say I do NOT want that. You have to start winning games even with all plus being a new QB going forward.
It appears Washington will keep winning but so many other teams are middling teams that a consistent Giants team could turn things around quickly.
If they don't win today and they look bad losing this season could turn ugly quickly.
I still don't get how some fans want to win meaningless games, just for 24 hours of excitement.
We did that last year and it cost us one of the top QBs
No point in winning 5 or 6 games every year. We need to take as many Ls as possible, so we can get out of QB hell
Tou make no sense! None! It is week 5. This isn't hoping we can beat Carolina. I wonder how any of you watch and root for your team in any game that isn't the championship.
But whatever.. I am sure the Giants won meaningless games in 2011, 2006, 2022, 1981, 1984...
Where the Giants are playing for their season. About 80% of this board has already given up on the year. Really sad. I mantain if the Giants had Phillips and Jackson last week, they would have beaten the Cowboys in a low scoring game. They can do it today.
If your once favorite restaurant for twenty years starts to have inconsistent food and service, do you keep going?
If they lose to the Bengals next week, I would like to have Jones sit and Lock play. Not because I think the Giants will win with Lock, but rather if Lock is able to move the chains and hit a few downfield receivers, we will have confirmation that Jones is simply lost. True, his trade value will go to zero, but so be it.
RB Devin Singletary (groin) is INACTIVE. CB Dru Phillips and CB Adoree’ Jackson are ACTIVE.
GIANTS INACTIVES:
WR Malik Nabers
S Anthony Johnson
RB Devin Singletary
CB Tre Hawkins III
OLB Boogie Basham
G Jake Kubas
QB Tommy DeVito (3rd)
SEAHAWKS INACTIVES:
C Olu Oluwatimi
T Sataoa Laumea
T Michael Jerrell
OLB Boye Mafe
DT Byron Murphy
Hawkins is just a body at this point, someone who won't be active unless there are injuries in the secondary. Which means that since Waller is also gone, Schoen got nothing for Toney.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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6m
CB Dru Phillips, who is questionable with a calf injury, is going through a pregame workout. Daboll, DB coach Jerome Henderson and head strength coach Aaron Wellman are observing. Seems like a bad idea to push a rookie DB through a calf injury if there are any questions.
RB Devin Singletary (groin) is INACTIVE. CB Dru Phillips and CB Adoree’ Jackson are ACTIVE.
GIANTS INACTIVES:
WR Malik Nabers
S Anthony Johnson
RB Devin Singletary
CB Tre Hawkins III
OLB Boogie Basham
G Jake Kubas
QB Tommy DeVito (3rd)
SEAHAWKS INACTIVES:
C Olu Oluwatimi
T Sataoa Laumea
T Michael Jerrell
OLB Boye Mafe
DT Byron Murphy
Hawkins is just a body at this point, someone who won't be active unless there are injuries in the secondary. Which means that since Waller is also gone, Schoen got nothing for Toney.
Whats most concerning on Hawkins is how the Giants coaching staff thought they actually had a starting CB in him
Also of note is Boogie Basham who Schoen helped draft in Buffalo and thought enough of him to trade for despite him greatly disappointing there. He has been even more useless here
Where the Giants are playing for their season. About 80% of this board has already given up on the year. Really sad. I mantain if the Giants had Phillips and Jackson last week, they would have beaten the Cowboys in a low scoring game. They can do it today.
Yes and if the Queen had balls she'd be King. Excuses are for losers.
‘You should feel privileged watching the Giants. A first class organization from ownership on down. They ooze class, something lacking on this board from so many of you losers.’-4XChamp probably.
the knicks/rangers/islanders/devil will start their season too.
Mara responds to fan and media pressure.
all in all - there wont be much for awhile on teh giants barring embarssing ass kickings.
^This. Many Giants fans also follow other sports teams. The Yankees and Mets are in the playoffs. The Rangers, Devils, and Knicks are starting their seasons. All are credible teams, especially the Knicks, who many fans rightly hope can challenge Boston this year. Many people also follow college teams.
People only have a limited amount of time to watch and follow sports teams. Those that play well will be prioritized. Those like the Giants that don't will likely be abandoned, at least for the rest of the season.
While it's currently a complete unknown, St Johns basketball might be thrown into the mix of teams to watch this year, though mostly only the non-conference schedule while the Giants play out their season.
@art_stapleton
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3m
Giants CB Dru Phillips (calf) working out pregame in shirts and shorts for Brian Daboll, DB coach Jerome Henderson and DC Shane Bowen, in addition to Aaron Wellman and other members of the training staff.
Listed as questionable.
@DDuggan21
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6m
CB Dru Phillips, who is questionable with a calf injury, is going through a pregame workout. Daboll, DB coach Jerome Henderson and head strength coach Aaron Wellman are observing. Seems like a bad idea to push a rookie DB through a calf injury if there are any questions.
@DDuggan21
Giants-Seahawks pregame thoughts:
• The notion that the Giants have no chance without Malik Nabers is overblown. This is the NFL. Teams win games without star players every week. This is a comparable skill group that played the Seahawks last season, but with an improved O-line. Granted, they only scored three points in that game, but they can't use Nabers' absence as an excuse to not be able to score today. The Broncos and Patriots each scored 20 points against Seattle this season.
• Now, I'm not saying I think the Giants have much of a chance today. That's because I think Seattle is a bad matchup even when the Giants are at full strength. I know what Minnesota and Washington are doing, but this is the most dynamic offense the Giants have faced this season. Seattle's wide receivers have a huge advantage over the Giants' DBs. And even though it's a different coaching staff, this Seattle defense has suffocated the Giants the past two seasons.
• The Seahawks will bring back some bad memories for Brian Daboll and Daniel Jones. Jones threw a killer 97-yard pick-six in last season's matchup, with rookie corner Devon Witherspoon saying he knew Jones liked to stare down his first read, which helped him jump the route. That led to Daboll's infamous disgusted tablet flip on the sideline.
• I'll be monitoring how well Jones is moving today. He was hobbling through the locker room after Thursday's practice. I didn't hear of any injury and he looked better on Friday, so maybe he just did a heavy leg day in the weight room. But it's something to at least keep an eye on, as he is still working back from a torn ACL. Everyone always says they don't feel fully back to normal for a while after returning.
• I expect Tyrone Tracy to be the No. 1 RB and Eric Gray to rotate in with Devin Singletary out. I would be surprised if Dante Miller has much of a role on offense (and I expect the kick returners to be Gray and Ihmir Smith-Marsette).
• I know there's a lot of anticipation about a potential Jalin Hyatt breakout with Nabers out. But realistically, a Hyatt breakout just comes down to him catching one or two deep balls. I expect Darius Slayton to see the biggest target increase in Nabers' absence, with Isaiah Hodgins also figuring to get opportunities in the red zone.
• Can copy and paste this defensive blue print every week: The pass rush needs to dominate a suspect offensive line to give the Giants a chance. Seattle is shaky at every spot aside from LT, so there will be mismatches to exploit. They need to figure out a way to free up Dexter Lawrence from the constant double teams he's facing (more stunts?) and the edge rusher matched up with Seattle's third-string RT needs to make game-changing plays like Brian Burns' strip sack against Cleveland.
• Geno Smith is playing with a ridiculous amount of confidence. He's excellent at navigating the pocket and he'll rip throws into tight windows. If he has time, the Giants have no chance of matching up with Seattle's talent on the perimeter.
• This is a big week for Deonte Banks. He got called out by DB coach Jerome Henderson for his lack of effort on CeeDee Lamb's touchdown last week. And it's generally been a rough second season covering opposing No. 1 WRs.
DK Metcalf is as tough a matchup as any WR. Seattle will exploit Banks' weakness of not finding the ball because Geno will fire it to Metcalf even if he's covered. Banks held up well while traveling with Metcalf last season, allowing only three catches for 34 yards. But one of those catches was a 6-yard TD when Metcalf used late hands to school Banks, who was in tight coverage but had no idea the ball was zipping past him.
It's impossible to replicate the size (6-4, 235) and speed (4.33 40) of Metcalf in practice. But Bryce Ford-Wheaton (6-3, 220, 4.38) gave as good a look as possible this week in practice. Banks has said that Metcalf talked the most trash during his rookie season. I heard the coaches had Ford-Wheaton go after Banks after the whistle during practices to get the corner ready for the chippy matchup.
• I don't say this as a criticism, but Kenneth Walker plays like a high school RB. He just looks like the fastest, most athletic player on the field so he makes seemingly bad decisions to bounce runs or cut all the way across the field, but he makes it work (5.7 yards per carry). The Giants' run defense has done well against two bad rushing offenses since getting shredded by Washington. Walker will be a major challenge to their run fits and tackling. The players on the back side better be disciplined or he'll break a long one by reversing field.
@DDuggan21
These always put body language reading skills to the test. It seemed like it was positive when Phillips finished, but then there was an extended huddle with Daboll, Henderson, Wellman, Joe Schoen, Shane Bowen and rehab director Leigh Weiss. Don't think a lengthy meeting would be necessary if it was all systems go. So my guess is either inactive or active in a limited role
@DDuggan21
Mike Kafka is walking laps around the field with Leslie Frazier, who is the Seahawks' assistant head coach. Kafka has been stopped by a few Seahawks staffers for greetings. Kafka had two interviews for Seattle's head coaching vacancy this offseason, and their request for an OC interview was denied by the Giants.
Why would fans want to keep subjecting themselves to this shit?
This is where I am right now.
GIANTS INACTIVES:
WR Malik Nabers
S Anthony Johnson
RB Devin Singletary
CB Tre Hawkins III
OLB Boogie Basham
G Jake Kubas
QB Tommy DeVito (3rd)
SEAHAWKS INACTIVES:
C Olu Oluwatimi
T Sataoa Laumea
T Michael Jerrell
OLB Boye Mafe
DT Byron Murphy
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Where the Giants are playing for their season. About 80% of this board has already given up on the year. Really sad. I mantain if the Giants had Phillips and Jackson last week, they would have beaten the Cowboys in a low scoring game. They can do it today.
Why would fans want to keep subjecting themselves to this shit?
i dont see the pocket movement, i dont see the size, speed.
he looks small both height/width.
With Nabers out, I expect Seattle will crowd the LOS to stop whatever limited run game we have, most of which will likely be runs straight into the LOS, especially on first down. We need to instead come out throwing, with play action. Feature the TEs. Nobody would expect that, since they have essentially been invisible the whole season.
The fact that Burns and KT have not been dominant despite Lawrence getting double teamed on almost every play shows how ineffective they have been. One of the main reasons for trading for Burns was to make teams pay for continually doubling Lawrence.
The season was over 2 weeks ago brother.
It would be silly to maintain hope at this point. We've seen this movie before.
the knicks/rangers/islanders/devil will start their season too.
Mara responds to fan and media pressure.
all in all - there wont be much for awhile on teh giants barring embarssing ass kickings.
It appears Washington will keep winning but so many other teams are middling teams that a consistent Giants team could turn things around quickly.
If they don't win today and they look bad losing this season could turn ugly quickly.
will take a lot of pressure off schoen/daboll.
it will be in vogue to move off 50m franchise QBs and keep the HC/GM.
Giants are 1-3 and 1-4 and 1-5 then maybe win a game or two and lose a bunch more so we are 3-9. They then win 2 or 3 straight and end the season 6-11 and the 10th pick in the draft.
Rinse, repeat.
Washington definitely tanked last season, trading away their ER’s, lose a ton and now have a young, exciting QB.
It’s just depressing and boring.
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Nope. They recognize the mess at QB. I predicted the apathy back in November with my Daniel Jones article. Fans are done.
I get the Daniel Jones apathy. I'm just saying not all losses are created equal. The Giants offense didn't play well enough last week either. I get it. But that was a game to be won because the Cowboys didn't play well either outside of one homerun play. Maybe that home run would have been prevented if all the starters were in.
banks and nubin are starters first nad second roudn picks.
the knicks/rangers/islanders/devil will start their season too.
Mara responds to fan and media pressure.
all in all - there wont be much for awhile on teh giants barring embarssing ass kickings.
^This. Many Giants fans also follow other sports teams. The Yankees and Mets are in the playoffs. The Rangers, Devils, and Knicks are starting their seasons. All are credible teams, especially the Knicks, who many fans rightly hope can challenge Boston this year. Many people also follow college teams.
People only have a limited amount of time to watch and follow sports teams. Those that play well will be prioritized. Those like the Giants that don't will likely be abandoned, at least for the rest of the season.
It appears Washington will keep winning but so many other teams are middling teams that a consistent Giants team could turn things around quickly.
If they don't win today and they look bad losing this season could turn ugly quickly.
I still don't get how some fans want to win meaningless games, just for 24 hours of excitement.
We did that last year and it cost us one of the top QBs
No point in winning 5 or 6 games every year. We need to take as many Ls as possible, so we can get out of QB hell
we dont have to tank to #1, #2 works too.
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Wants the Giants to lose but I can honestly say I do NOT want that. You have to start winning games even with all plus being a new QB going forward.
It appears Washington will keep winning but so many other teams are middling teams that a consistent Giants team could turn things around quickly.
If they don't win today and they look bad losing this season could turn ugly quickly.
I still don't get how some fans want to win meaningless games, just for 24 hours of excitement.
We did that last year and it cost us one of the top QBs
No point in winning 5 or 6 games every year. We need to take as many Ls as possible, so we can get out of QB hell
Tou make no sense! None! It is week 5. This isn't hoping we can beat Carolina. I wonder how any of you watch and root for your team in any game that isn't the championship.
But whatever.. I am sure the Giants won meaningless games in 2011, 2006, 2022, 1981, 1984...
They certainly could.
we dont have to tank to #1, #2 works too.
We definitely have to get in the top 3 this year. Doesn't matter where, imo
I think Cam Ward, Sheduer Sanders, Milroe and similar with Milroe being fastest
Not sure how I feel about Beck
But whatever.. I am sure the Giants won meaningless games in 2011, 2006, 2022, 1981, 1984...
Did we need a quarterback in 2011, 2006, 1981 or 1984?
If your once favorite restaurant for twenty years starts to have inconsistent food and service, do you keep going?
GIANTS INACTIVES:
WR Malik Nabers
S Anthony Johnson
RB Devin Singletary
CB Tre Hawkins III
OLB Boogie Basham
G Jake Kubas
QB Tommy DeVito (3rd)
SEAHAWKS INACTIVES:
C Olu Oluwatimi
T Sataoa Laumea
T Michael Jerrell
OLB Boye Mafe
DT Byron Murphy
Hawkins is just a body at this point, someone who won't be active unless there are injuries in the secondary. Which means that since Waller is also gone, Schoen got nothing for Toney.
@DDuggan21
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6m
CB Dru Phillips, who is questionable with a calf injury, is going through a pregame workout. Daboll, DB coach Jerome Henderson and head strength coach Aaron Wellman are observing. Seems like a bad idea to push a rookie DB through a calf injury if there are any questions.
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RB Devin Singletary (groin) is INACTIVE. CB Dru Phillips and CB Adoree’ Jackson are ACTIVE.
GIANTS INACTIVES:
WR Malik Nabers
S Anthony Johnson
RB Devin Singletary
CB Tre Hawkins III
OLB Boogie Basham
G Jake Kubas
QB Tommy DeVito (3rd)
SEAHAWKS INACTIVES:
C Olu Oluwatimi
T Sataoa Laumea
T Michael Jerrell
OLB Boye Mafe
DT Byron Murphy
Hawkins is just a body at this point, someone who won't be active unless there are injuries in the secondary. Which means that since Waller is also gone, Schoen got nothing for Toney.
Whats most concerning on Hawkins is how the Giants coaching staff thought they actually had a starting CB in him
Also of note is Boogie Basham who Schoen helped draft in Buffalo and thought enough of him to trade for despite him greatly disappointing there. He has been even more useless here
Yes and if the Queen had balls she'd be King. Excuses are for losers.
It appears Washington will keep winning but so many other teams are middling teams that a consistent Giants team could turn things around quickly.
If they don't win today and they look bad losing this season could turn ugly quickly.
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you guys dont think it matter, but it 100% does.
the knicks/rangers/islanders/devil will start their season too.
Mara responds to fan and media pressure.
all in all - there wont be much for awhile on teh giants barring embarssing ass kickings.
^This. Many Giants fans also follow other sports teams. The Yankees and Mets are in the playoffs. The Rangers, Devils, and Knicks are starting their seasons. All are credible teams, especially the Knicks, who many fans rightly hope can challenge Boston this year. Many people also follow college teams.
People only have a limited amount of time to watch and follow sports teams. Those that play well will be prioritized. Those like the Giants that don't will likely be abandoned, at least for the rest of the season.