1- new England = no
2- Cincinnati = no
3- Jacksonville = no
4- LA Rams = Yes
5- Cleveland = YES
6- Carolina = YES
7- Tennessee = YES
8- Miami = YES
9- NY Jets = YES
10- Las Vegas = YES
11- Arizona = maybe
12- INdianapolis = NO
13- San Francisco = no
14- NYG = YES
to help draft position once the season is essentially over but we’re far from that point at 2-3 five weeks in.
Let’s try and make the playoffs with our young GM and coach. Two playoff berths in three years is a pretty good start considering what Gettleman left Schoen.
Again, for the absolute morons that are posting tonight:
The Giants are 2-3 and have 12 games remaining. They competed extremely well against Washington and Dallas, and you can argue they should have 1 won of those games minimum.
The season is still very young with 2 winnable games at home coming up.
Talk of “tanking” after we are just getting the season going and the QB that everyone wants gone having three 100+ QB rating games thus far can get the fuck outta here and go root for another team.
1- new England = no
2- Cincinnati = no
3- Jacksonville = no
4- LA Rams = Yes
5- Cleveland = YES
6- Carolina = YES
7- Tennessee = YES
8- Miami = YES
9- NY Jets = YES
10- Las Vegas = YES
11- Arizona = maybe
12- INdianapolis = NO
13- San Francisco = no
14- NYG = YES
it's sad that your already even giving a shit about draft order after week 5 and with a team that has been competetive in 4 out of 5 games
Yeah. We need to find a tough, developing, young, hard working, accurate, mobile and fiery QB to replace the one we already have.
Can’t you see what’s happening here? Jones has NEVER been comfortable in the pocket before now. Finally, he’s in a year 3 of the same coaching regime and has an offensive line that protects him. As a result, his skill set is starting to take hold . He’s becoming dangerous.
And the dude is tough as hell.
I keep yelling “Slide Slide!” but he powers through for the extra yards. Now, that’s scary for both injury and turnover reasons. However, it’s just his style. He reminds me of Bert Jones from the 70s Colts.
If you can’t see the possibilities of this team and this still young QB then I don’t know what to tell you.
I can name a dozen QB's who were supposed to be "can't miss" who were busts. I'm also not fully convinced with Daniels yet. The Skins fans all said RG III was the second coming in 2012. At some point Daniels is going to get hurt with that thin frame. Let's also see him next season after teams have a year of film on him. He looks great now, but we'll see.
It’s trending upward. Last 3 weeks. 21, 15 and 29.
I feel like the statement of let the season play out has been completely ridiculed and mocked around here because this place has gotten fucking dumb lately, but let the fucking season play out.
we aren’t running the team. We have no control over how these games play out. All we can do is wait and see what happens. The giant offense is getting better.
QB class this year. Nobody worth suffering for. Lot of good QB’s end up going outside of the top 10 anyway. Can probably get a guy like Dart or Allar later on. Even Beck is slipping on most boards…
If you told me the Giants realized that the biggest
Missing piece from this team was a QB, we could all enjoy an out of nowhere playoff season and this team really surprising. But we all know what happened in 2022 when this team strung some wins together. We kept a shitty QB and paid him like a good QB. I fully expect they will make the same mistake again.
This front office still wants to be proven right about Jones the same way the same clowns on this thread do.
Two things can better at once. Jones can play well now and then, and the Giants can’t rely on Daniel Jones.
Missing piece from this team was a QB, we could all enjoy an out of nowhere playoff season and this team really surprising. But we all know what happened in 2022 when this team strung some wins together. We kept a shitty QB and paid him like a good QB. I fully expect they will make the same mistake again.
This front office still wants to be proven right about Jones the same way the same clowns on this thread do.
Two things can better at once. Jones can play well now and then, and the Giants can’t rely on Daniel Jones.
Unless Jones completely shits the bed, it’s already over for moving on from him. They’ll win 7 games and Jones will throw 20 TDs and that’ll be good enough for the people calling the shots.
RE: If you told me the Giants realized that the biggest
Missing piece from this team was a QB, we could all enjoy an out of nowhere playoff season and this team really surprising. But we all know what happened in 2022 when this team strung some wins together. We kept a shitty QB and paid him like a good QB. I fully expect they will make the same mistake again.
This front office still wants to be proven right about Jones the same way the same clowns on this thread do.
Two things can better at once. Jones can play well now and then, and the Giants can’t rely on Daniel Jones.
Jones could lead the Giants to the NFC Title game and you'd still say to get rid of him. It's funny how you are saying people want to be proven right about Jones. That is exactly the same thing the Jones detractors do, just in the opposite way. And even after that performance today, you're still calling him a bad QB. After you of course said the Giants and Jones had no chance today. It's just more doubling down.
They’ll win 7 games and Jones will throw 20 TDs and that’ll be good enough for the people calling the shots.
Right now, Jones is the prohibitive favorite to start in 2025.
I'm tired of watching Jones play QB, but today was an interesting game and performance for him because he did it without his security blanket Nabers. This may be a blessing in disguise where Jones should now start scanning the field for more options than just #1.
RE: Every QB that makes the NFL is capable of having
That doesn’t mean there aren’t bad QBs in the league
But you guys already said Jones wasn't capable of a performance like that today, on the road without his #1 reciver. You guys already said the Giants had no chance before the game. So when they win, all you do is shift the goal posts. Now it's "any given Sunday" all of a sudden? Interesting
Yeah. We need to find a tough, developing, young, hard working, accurate, mobile and fiery QB to replace the one we already have.
Can’t you see what’s happening here? Jones has NEVER been comfortable in the pocket before now. Finally, he’s in a year 3 of the same coaching regime and has an offensive line that protects him. As a result, his skill set is starting to take hold . He’s becoming dangerous.
And the dude is tough as hell.
I keep yelling “Slide Slide!” but he powers through for the extra yards. Now, that’s scary for both injury and turnover reasons. However, it’s just his style. He reminds me of Bert Jones from the 70s Colts.
If you can’t see the possibilities of this team and this still young QB then I don’t know what to tell you.
He’s almost as good as Kent Graham.
:)
You are the first person to describe Daniel Jones as “fiery”
With a new GM/HC/QB with a message sent so clearly to the Maras that they way they have built this team is wrong
I fear a false hope season like 2020 where the Giants fool themselves into believing they were a playoff team and spend like drunken sailors acquiring pieces to go for it .
With a new GM/HC/QB with a message sent so clearly to the Maras that they way they have built this team is wrong
I fear a false hope season like 2020 where the Giants fool themselves into believing they were a playoff team and spend like drunken sailors acquiring pieces to go for it .
What is the false hope? I'm curious. Schoen built this team with the intent of having a strong pass rush, that's been coming to life. Most on BBI liked the Burns trade. Most liked letting Barkley walk.
So, is it being sick of Jones at QB or is it being upset with the overall roster build?
With a new GM/HC/QB with a message sent so clearly to the Maras that they way they have built this team is wrong
I fear a false hope season like 2020 where the Giants fool themselves into believing they were a playoff team and spend like drunken sailors acquiring pieces to go for it .
What is the false hope? I'm curious. Schoen built this team with the intent of having a strong pass rush, that's been coming to life. Most on BBI liked the Burns trade. Most liked letting Barkley walk.
So, is it being sick of Jones at QB or is it being upset with the overall roster build?
You know the answer. He only talks about one player on this team.
Of course they do. Most of the NFL does. If that is the ultimate deciding factor and everyone should be fired because of it, that's fine. But that's what I'm curious about.
The OL is the best it's looked in years. Pass rush looks good. If this is solely about the QB that's fine, but there are other things that look better. So, I'm curious what the evaluation of false hope is based on.
RE: RE: RE: If you told me the Giants realized that the biggest
They’ll win 7 games and Jones will throw 20 TDs and that’ll be good enough for the people calling the shots.
Right now, Jones is the prohibitive favorite to start in 2025.
I'm tired of watching Jones play QB, but today was an interesting game and performance for him because he did it without his security blanket Nabers. This may be a blessing in disguise where Jones should now start scanning the field for more options than just #1.
I am not sure Jones was scanning the field more versus we had a more explosive running game that kept our opponent honest and there was a lot more scheming to get guys open than Daboll had done previously. Someone like Nabers can get open without scheming so it is easy just to rely on that.
Again, for the absolute morons that are posting tonight:
The Giants are 2-3 and have 12 games remaining. They competed extremely well against Washington and Dallas, and you can argue they should have 1 won of those games minimum.
The season is still very young with 2 winnable games at home coming up.
Talk of “tanking” after we are just getting the season going and the QB that everyone wants gone having three 100+ QB rating games thus far can get the fuck outta here and go root for another team.
This is so fucking stupid I can’t take it.
Where was this guy at 1-3?
Not so forceful in grand pronouncements.
To be near enough to the top of the draft to grab a potential franchise QB.
I can’t root for a “tank job” as I can’t watch the Giants and hope they lose. But in retrospect, after each loss, I don’t feel as bad as I would if we were contending for a title. Which we are not.
Jones is a workmanlike, QB manager but in watching Daniels yesterday, and Williams, I want a QB like that.
1- new England = no
2- Cincinnati = no
3- Jacksonville = no
4- LA Rams = Yes
5- Cleveland = YES
6- Carolina = YES
7- Tennessee = YES
8- Miami = YES
9- NY Jets = YES
10- Las Vegas = YES
11- Arizona = maybe
12- INdianapolis = NO
13- San Francisco = no
14- NYG = YES
You're repeating yourself you said this word for word on the other thread...
And I want a QB with the 32nd overall pick.
Quote:
But it isn't going to be good if they run it back with Schoen/Daboll/Jones in 2025. It won't take too many wins to make that happen.
You're repeating yourself you said this word for word on the other thread...
Because he won't man up to say he wants them to tank.
We all know you'll pull a Harry Houdini like you did in 2022 if they end up better than expected
After today, I would guess Jones has received a stay of execution from 1925 Giants Way.
And he's back to being 50/50 as the 2025 starter.
Let’s try and make the playoffs with our young GM and coach. Two playoff berths in three years is a pretty good start considering what Gettleman left Schoen.
The Giants are 2-3 and have 12 games remaining. They competed extremely well against Washington and Dallas, and you can argue they should have 1 won of those games minimum.
The season is still very young with 2 winnable games at home coming up.
Talk of “tanking” after we are just getting the season going and the QB that everyone wants gone having three 100+ QB rating games thus far can get the fuck outta here and go root for another team.
This is so fucking stupid I can’t take it.
1- new England = no
2- Cincinnati = no
3- Jacksonville = no
4- LA Rams = Yes
5- Cleveland = YES
6- Carolina = YES
7- Tennessee = YES
8- Miami = YES
9- NY Jets = YES
10- Las Vegas = YES
11- Arizona = maybe
12- INdianapolis = NO
13- San Francisco = no
14- NYG = YES
it's sad that your already even giving a shit about draft order after week 5 and with a team that has been competetive in 4 out of 5 games
They’ll lose more games than they win.
Yeah. We need to find a tough, developing, young, hard working, accurate, mobile and fiery QB to replace the one we already have.
Can’t you see what’s happening here? Jones has NEVER been comfortable in the pocket before now. Finally, he’s in a year 3 of the same coaching regime and has an offensive line that protects him. As a result, his skill set is starting to take hold . He’s becoming dangerous.
And the dude is tough as hell.
I keep yelling “Slide Slide!” but he powers through for the extra yards. Now, that’s scary for both injury and turnover reasons. However, it’s just his style. He reminds me of Bert Jones from the 70s Colts.
If you can’t see the possibilities of this team and this still young QB then I don’t know what to tell you.
He’s almost as good as Kent Graham.
:)
Are you saying, therefore, that Jones is more talented than all of the likely 2025 QB prospects?
They’ll lose more games than they win.
They need to score more pts. We all know that.
It’s trending upward. Last 3 weeks. 21, 15 and 29.
I feel like the statement of let the season play out has been completely ridiculed and mocked around here because this place has gotten fucking dumb lately, but let the fucking season play out.
we aren’t running the team. We have no control over how these games play out. All we can do is wait and see what happens. The giant offense is getting better.
That would put Eric out of business
This front office still wants to be proven right about Jones the same way the same clowns on this thread do.
Two things can better at once. Jones can play well now and then, and the Giants can’t rely on Daniel Jones.
This front office still wants to be proven right about Jones the same way the same clowns on this thread do.
Two things can better at once. Jones can play well now and then, and the Giants can’t rely on Daniel Jones.
Unless Jones completely shits the bed, it’s already over for moving on from him. They’ll win 7 games and Jones will throw 20 TDs and that’ll be good enough for the people calling the shots.
This front office still wants to be proven right about Jones the same way the same clowns on this thread do.
Two things can better at once. Jones can play well now and then, and the Giants can’t rely on Daniel Jones.
That doesn’t mean there aren’t bad QBs in the league
Right now, Jones is the prohibitive favorite to start in 2025.
I'm tired of watching Jones play QB, but today was an interesting game and performance for him because he did it without his security blanket Nabers. This may be a blessing in disguise where Jones should now start scanning the field for more options than just #1.
That doesn’t mean there aren’t bad QBs in the league
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a single QB in this class worth tanking for.
Are you saying, therefore, that Jones is more talented than all of the likely 2025 QB prospects?
That's not the relevant comparison.
The relevant comparison is the 25 QBs vs the 25 non-QBs.
If you are tanking this year, using the pick on one of the QBs would be a waste of the asset.
Wasn't that the problem with picking Jones at 6?
Except there is no Daniels in this draft.
Always has been.
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I don't think anyone is rooting for a deliberate tank job. But getting a QB is priority #1. See Jayden Daniels.
Except there is no Daniels in this draft.
I'm not sure about that. Last year at this time Daniels wasn't yet thought to be what he wound up becoming.
Yeah. We need to find a tough, developing, young, hard working, accurate, mobile and fiery QB to replace the one we already have.
Can’t you see what’s happening here? Jones has NEVER been comfortable in the pocket before now. Finally, he’s in a year 3 of the same coaching regime and has an offensive line that protects him. As a result, his skill set is starting to take hold . He’s becoming dangerous.
And the dude is tough as hell.
I keep yelling “Slide Slide!” but he powers through for the extra yards. Now, that’s scary for both injury and turnover reasons. However, it’s just his style. He reminds me of Bert Jones from the 70s Colts.
If you can’t see the possibilities of this team and this still young QB then I don’t know what to tell you.
He’s almost as good as Kent Graham.
:)
You are the first person to describe Daniel Jones as “fiery”
I fear a false hope season like 2020 where the Giants fool themselves into believing they were a playoff team and spend like drunken sailors acquiring pieces to go for it .
I fear a false hope season like 2020 where the Giants fool themselves into believing they were a playoff team and spend like drunken sailors acquiring pieces to go for it .
What is the false hope? I'm curious. Schoen built this team with the intent of having a strong pass rush, that's been coming to life. Most on BBI liked the Burns trade. Most liked letting Barkley walk.
So, is it being sick of Jones at QB or is it being upset with the overall roster build?
Quote:
With a new GM/HC/QB with a message sent so clearly to the Maras that they way they have built this team is wrong
I fear a false hope season like 2020 where the Giants fool themselves into believing they were a playoff team and spend like drunken sailors acquiring pieces to go for it .
What is the false hope? I'm curious. Schoen built this team with the intent of having a strong pass rush, that's been coming to life. Most on BBI liked the Burns trade. Most liked letting Barkley walk.
So, is it being sick of Jones at QB or is it being upset with the overall roster build?
You know the answer. He only talks about one player on this team.
Of course they do. Most of the NFL does. If that is the ultimate deciding factor and everyone should be fired because of it, that's fine. But that's what I'm curious about.
Quote:
They’ll win 7 games and Jones will throw 20 TDs and that’ll be good enough for the people calling the shots.
Right now, Jones is the prohibitive favorite to start in 2025.
I'm tired of watching Jones play QB, but today was an interesting game and performance for him because he did it without his security blanket Nabers. This may be a blessing in disguise where Jones should now start scanning the field for more options than just #1.
I am not sure Jones was scanning the field more versus we had a more explosive running game that kept our opponent honest and there was a lot more scheming to get guys open than Daboll had done previously. Someone like Nabers can get open without scheming so it is easy just to rely on that.
The Giants are 2-3 and have 12 games remaining. They competed extremely well against Washington and Dallas, and you can argue they should have 1 won of those games minimum.
The season is still very young with 2 winnable games at home coming up.
Talk of “tanking” after we are just getting the season going and the QB that everyone wants gone having three 100+ QB rating games thus far can get the fuck outta here and go root for another team.
This is so fucking stupid I can’t take it.
Where was this guy at 1-3?
Not so forceful in grand pronouncements.
Let's see this get to .500 first.
Daniel Jones -coach killer.
Good games are essential to help kill a coach AND a GM. But not too many.
And it helps if it's on the road.
Everyone should bookmark this when fans say there’s giants fan openly rooting for the team to lose and play bad.
But then again - they’re more trolls than fans.
I can’t root for a “tank job” as I can’t watch the Giants and hope they lose. But in retrospect, after each loss, I don’t feel as bad as I would if we were contending for a title. Which we are not.
Jones is a workmanlike, QB manager but in watching Daniels yesterday, and Williams, I want a QB like that.