(1) First things first. The Giants kicked the shit out of Seattle both sides of the LOS. Seattle Head Coach Mike Macdonald put it in more diplomatic language, "We got outplayed and outexecuted"
(2) The way things have been going for the Giants, I doubt there were too many BBIers who would have been shocked had the team simply folded its tent after Eric Gray's snafu that led to a 14-point swing in a blink of an eye. Did he break the plane? The only angle I saw suggested he might have, but the image was hardly conclusive.
(3) I jumped off the Daniel Jones wagon a while ago, but that doesn't mean I'm rooting against the guy. He played about as well as he can. His 30-yard rainbow arc on the right sideline dropped straight down into Slayton's bucket. That is not an easy throw. His 30-yard TD pass to Slayton was an easier toss, but again it was a perfect throw.
(4) Maybe the Giants found themselves a real draft gem in Tyrone Tracy. He ran decisively and he ran with power. Hats off to the offensive line -- it created holes and Tyrone Tracy exploited them, time and time again.
(5) I'm rooting for Wan'Dale Robinson as hard as the next fan. Pound for pound he's as tough as they come. But he has the drops. Serious drops. And he destroyed one beautiful drive deep into Seattle territory with a critical third down drop and he killed another drive with another third down drop. Both passes were dead on the money.
(6) Dexter Lawrence abused the interior of Seattle's line, and (if I'm not mistaken) it looked like he bench-pressed the RG down into the turf to aid Isaiah Simmons' dramatic last-minute heroics. Rakeem Nunez-Roches and D.J. Davidson were also quite active.
(7) I'm not sure Seattle is that good of a team and the same goes for the Giants. But the Men in Blue played very well for 60 minutes across all phases of the game, and at 2-3 they are still relevant which is a hell of a lot better than 1-4 and having to comb through Mock Draft Web Sites several times a day.
I’ll assume you will avoid my question now or twist it. You’re never wrong ;)
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They played well the first half except for the last 22 seconds.
They played well the second half except for the last almost 6 minutes leaving out the field goal block of course.
They gained like 44 total yards in the second half. Disagree they played well. Happy for the win, but they blew a lead and managed to steal a win.
We only had 44 total yards in the second half and scored 13 points?
I know we got a "cheap 3" after the 4th and 1, but jeez....can that be right?
Sad, isn’t it?
This is a stupid comment. Do better.
Yesterday 22c/133y/6.0. Seattle 7c/28y.
I wish you well JT with your treatment. Stay positive.
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The giants won. And jones played well.
Sad, isn’t it?
This is a stupid comment. Do better.
I have showed posts showing this. Maybe our fans should “do better.”
I’ll assume you will avoid my question now or twist it. You’re never wrong ;)
This is a foolish answer. You accuse me of being wrong and refusing to admit it, and then I ask you about what, you do this sarcastic, passive aggressive "Nothing, you are right about everything!!!"
I'm sorry JT, I can't take any of this seriously. You are telling people you have never met how they feel, and accusing them of being wrong about things you refuse to enumerate. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
But yeah, I am twisting your words by asking for an example of something after you make an accusation about me.
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The usual suspects. And you’ll deny it cause you guys NEVER admit you’re wrong. But the arguments started with… “well we still need a QB” and “another banner” or “another receipt” just shows you guys can’t even enjoy a win.
It’s sad.
Same crowd, different day, same argument.
Go find any comment I have made since the game ended. I have complimented Jones's play.
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The giants won. And jones played well.
Sad, isn’t it?
This is a stupid comment. Do better.
I have showed posts showing this. Maybe our fans should “do better.”
I will say this:
I enjoyed the win immensely yesterday. I have 3 young Giants fans, and enjoyable moments are few and far between. My boys haven't had the chance to enjoy a (consistently) successful football team. Even worse we live in Chiefs country. I'm shocked (and relieved) they are sticking with the Giants. I keep telling them better days are ahead.
Yesterday doesn't change the fact that we need to be QB hunting next offseason. However, I'll agree that the discussion on that could have been tabled for a few days while fans enjoy this win. I was guilty of throwing that out there yesterday, and I shouldn't have.
There is no reason to discuss next year's QB situation right now, at least for a few days. We should enjoy the win.
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The usual suspects. And you’ll deny it cause you guys NEVER admit you’re wrong. But the arguments started with… “well we still need a QB” and “another banner” or “another receipt” just shows you guys can’t even enjoy a win.
It’s sad.
Same crowd, different day, same argument.
Go find any comment I have made since the game ended. I have complimented Jones's play.
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we have reached that point in the evening after a win that has become, unfortunately, a tradition - receipts.
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I’m sure you will deny that this was a shot - but let’s be honest - you know what you were doing..
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Nothing. You are right about everything!!!!
I’ll assume you will avoid my question now or twist it. You’re never wrong ;)
This is a foolish answer. You accuse me of being wrong and refusing to admit it, and then I ask you about what, you do this sarcastic, passive aggressive "Nothing, you are right about everything!!!"
I'm sorry JT, I can't take any of this seriously. You are telling people you have never met how they feel, and accusing them of being wrong about things you refuse to enumerate. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
But yeah, I am twisting your words by asking for an example of something after you make an accusation about me.
So you’re not answering my question.
Thanks for proving my point.
I am sorry you got some bad news today and I do hope you are feeling better. But I am off this merry go round with you. It makes us both look like clowns.
Genuinely, I hope you feel better.
Maybe, just maybe - you have such low esteem that you need to come here to prove how smart you are. And act like a 5 year old when someone calls you out for your nonsense.
And to be honest - I’m not in my basement. I found out 20 minutes ago waiting for chemo that my treatment is t working and they have to inject me with 5 different medicines. Which will prevent me from getting chemo for the near future - which may cause extreme pain and worsen my condition.
And even with all that - I can take joy in a Giants victory and a QB who played well.
Guess my priorities are a little different than yours…
Lol now you’re cuckign Eric after calling people Terps cuck last week?
Continuously wrong is funny. Saying I have low self esteem is even funnier. Again, you’ve never met me. Very weird behavior.
And you did follow me around for weeks because I said the defense was fine in week 1. Are you actually going to deny that?
I am sorry you got some bad news today and I do hope you are feeling better. But I am off this merry go round with you. It makes us both look like clowns.
Genuinely, I hope you feel better.
Agreed. And thank you for the well wishes. I do need to offer an apology to you since I really don’t mind your posting. Let’s just root for the giants moving forward and hope for more wins.
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I don't pretend to know what other posters feel. I take people at what they post on threads. I enjoyed the game yesterday and I don't give two shites whether you believe that or not. I don't know you and your opinion means nothing to me. I tried to understand why you were so insistent on attacking other posters, but you just are. I no longer care why.
I am sorry you got some bad news today and I do hope you are feeling better. But I am off this merry go round with you. It makes us both look like clowns.
Genuinely, I hope you feel better.
Agreed. And thank you for the well wishes. I do need to offer an apology to you since I really don’t mind your posting. Let’s just root for the giants moving forward and hope for more wins.
We can agree on that.
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we have reached that point in the evening after a win that has become, unfortunately, a tradition - receipts.
But that's what happens when Jones plays well, and we win. No need to name names (I can, if you like) but they pull receipts to play this "I told you so" game.
Are you going to deny that??
And “cucking” - wow you really are showing how much of a low life you are. You have serious issues man. And trust me I don’t want to get to know you. I doubt many of us would.
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bw in dc : 10/6/2024 9:22 pm : link : reply
we have reached that point in the evening after a win that has become, unfortunately, a tradition - receipts.
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I’m sure you will deny that this was a shot - but let’s be honest - you know what you were doing..
But that's what happens when Jones plays well, and we win. No need to name names (I can, if you like) but they pull receipts to play this "I told you so" game.
Are you going to deny that??
No disagreement here. We have a few posters who overvalue Jones. No doubt about it.
And “cucking” - wow you really are showing how much of a low life you are. You have serious issues man. And trust me I don’t want to get to know you. I doubt many of us would.
So you did follow me around me around, thanks for admitting. That career backup is one of the MVP front runners right now btw with the best WR in the league.
And just using your logic that you used calling people Terps’ cuck. You seem to like to throw it around but can’t take it. Odd. No wonder you needed a new account.
And the ones who have met me would say the opposite. Enjoy your day Dep!
You were talking about it last week. Take what you dish, or can you not take any ribbing?
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I didn’t follow you around. I may have made a post or two mocking a statement you made (citing a defense played fine when a career backup was 13-14 with TDs I. The first half. But you can’t take any type of ribbing and act like a baby when someone does it to you. So if you say 1-2 posts is following you - then so be it.
And “cucking” - wow you really are showing how much of a low life you are. You have serious issues man. And trust me I don’t want to get to know you. I doubt many of us would.
So you did follow me around me around, thanks for admitting. That career backup is one of the MVP front runners right now btw with the best WR in the league.
And just using your logic that you used calling people Terps’ cuck. You seem to like to throw it around but can’t take it. Odd. No wonder you needed a new account.
And the ones who have met me would say the opposite. Enjoy your day Dep!
And being that you are saying something I supposedly said about Terps - does that mean you’re following me around?
Thanks for admitting that. lol.
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Cucking. Personal experience?
You were talking about it last week. Take what you dish, or can you not take any ribbing?
You following me around?
Not mad. Why are you projecting? You don’t know me. Now go make up some more nonsense.
I am sorry you got some bad news today and I do hope you are feeling better. But I am off this merry go round with you. It makes us both look like clowns.
Genuinely, I hope you feel better.
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JT - I would like to echo what Mike said.
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I don't pretend to know what other posters feel. I take people at what they post on threads. I enjoyed the game yesterday and I don't give two shites whether you believe that or not. I don't know you and your opinion means nothing to me. I tried to understand why you were so insistent on attacking other posters, but you just are. I no longer care why.
I am sorry you got some bad news today and I do hope you are feeling better. But I am off this merry go round with you. It makes us both look like clowns.
Genuinely, I hope you feel better.
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JT - I would like to echo what Mike said.
Thanks buddy. Not a good day on the health front but peaks and valleys. Doctors just said I need a little break. Hoping it won’t be long.
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I don't pretend to know what other posters feel. I take people at what they post on threads. I enjoyed the game yesterday and I don't give two shites whether you believe that or not. I don't know you and your opinion means nothing to me. I tried to understand why you were so insistent on attacking other posters, but you just are. I no longer care why.
I am sorry you got some bad news today and I do hope you are feeling better. But I am off this merry go round with you. It makes us both look like clowns.
Genuinely, I hope you feel better.
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JT - I would like to echo what Mike said.
Thanks buddy. Not a good day on the health front but peaks and valleys. Doctors just said I need a little break. Hoping it won’t be long.
Thoughts and prayers are with you
When these guys just went into Seattle without their best weapon and kicked their ass for 55 minutes straight.
What about people who continue to say Jones is good when the play on the field speaks other wise?
So far he’s had a total of 3 good halves of football and one complete game out of five, surrounded by bad and mediocre play. That’s exactly what QBs who aren’t good do. The Giants ceiling is capped until they improve at the quarterback position.
Weird timing for victory laps, but you did the same with Gettleman before it all fell apart so not surprising.
But Jones has a 100 or more rating in 3 of the 5 games. He's 12th in the NFL in QBR. That sounds about right to me. He's been trending upward since the week 1 debacle and you and the few usuals refuse to admit it.
It continues to be laughable that you cannot say anything positive about his play, because it's one of the main reasons the Giants are still in it right now and playing pretty well.
Bull. Fucking. Shit. It was a perfect throw by NFL measures and a starting WR is expected to catch it.
But Jones has a 100 or more rating in 3 of the 5 games. He's 12th in the NFL in QBR. That sounds about right to me. He's been trending upward since the week 1 debacle and you and the few usuals refuse to admit it.
It continues to be laughable that you cannot say anything positive about his play, because it's one of the main reasons the Giants are still in it right now and playing pretty well.
Still haven’t bought that mirror, Amazon prime day is coming up.
I literally just said he played a good game, do you need glasses?
He was bad against Dallas, was bad in the second half against Cleveland. And was mediocre against Washington. Sure that’s trending up because 2023 + Minnesota was so low.
The Giants are averaging 18 ppg, and have broken 20 points twice so far this year. There must be different definitions of “pretty well”.
Are you going to deny that he’s only played one complete good game this year?
Let's hope we continue to see more of this.
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Agreed about the late game playcalling. On the last possession, I wanted Daboll to run the normal offense, which had been doing well all day. Instead, we turtle up and had to punt with plenty of time on the clock.
Exactly, everything changed when they took a 10 point lead which is just not enough of a lead in the NFL. Daboll started coaching scared. I have historically defended him over his tenure , and been one to place the bulk of the blame on the QB not ever rising to a leader/winner level to execute. But yesterday, Daboll deserves criticism for completely changing the game philosophy when they went up by 10. I am so sick of the coaches we have had post Coughlin who when things go well start coaching scared and change the play calling to a ‘play not to lose’ mentality. It is why we are a loser franchise, if not for a Dex pancake on ST and Simmons impressive block, we surely lose this and I would think we would have lost the locker room too as the play calling doesn’t inspire confidence in the players to beat their opponents. This just can’t happen and I am so sick of seeing this type of playcalling and mentality over the past decade.
You're spot on. The next step for this team is starting to blow out teams in games they completely dominate, like yesterday. We destroyed Seattle throughtout the game, and it still feels like we "stole" the game with the blocked FG.
This is a very important change in mentality that could change the aspirations from "competing" to at least "let's make the playoffs and play like a playoff team".
Our 2 wins this season weren't close games on the field, but the way it was managed made us feel like "thank god we could run out the clock before the other team comes back".
I think Daboll is at the very least competent at his job as a coach, team comes prepared for games, we often seem to surprise better teams but I don't know if he manages the game well, too many times with a good lead, momentum and a chance to go for the jugular, he calls conservative plays to preserve whatever lead he has.
But people can learn and get better on their jobs over time, it's what smart people do, they analyze their own contributions and understand where they need improvements. Let's hope Daboll is one of those.
Yes, hopefully we start developing this mentality instead of the usual "we stole that game". Playing not to lose, in the long term, just causes more lossses.