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NFT: ⚾Mets vs. Dodgers NLCS thread⚾ Game 1 – 8:15 pm EDT start ⚾

Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 4:21 pm
Welcome to this best-of-seven National League Championship Series thread between the 6th seeded Mets (89-73) & the 1st seeded N.L. West Champion Dodgers (98-64). All games for this series will be covered in this thread. The Dodgers had the best record in all of MLB during the regular season & beat the Mets during the regular season 4 times, winning the regular season series 4 games to 2. The Mets will be looking for some payback against the Dodgers the same way they did against the Brewers & Phillies, who they also lost their regular season series against. Click HERE to read a preview of this Playoff Series. Enjoy 😊!
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Mets @ Dodgers: Game 1 –⚾Senga (R) vs. Flaherty (R)⚾– 8:15 pm EDT


Starting Lineups for both clubs tonight.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight & tomorrow in Chavez Ravine against the Dodgers.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Tonight’s game will be televised on FOX and tomorrow's game will be on both on FOX & FS1.
-The weather forecast for tonight's game at Dodger Stadium is excellent. Click HERE to keep updated & see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-Click HERE to see the Mets’ 26-man roster for the NLCS. There is one change overall: IF/OF Jeff McNeil for Reliever Adam Ottavino. This will be the 3rd time the Mets and Dodgers have met in the playoffs. They met before in 1988, 2006, and 2015 with the Mets winning in 2006 and 2015. Their most painful playoff series loss ever though was arguably to the Dodgers in 1988. Click HERE to read about the playoff history between these two organizations.

-Click HERE to see the list of the Mets’ roster transactions so far in October.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active playoff roster for this series.
-The Mets' 5-man bench for tonight’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Martinez (R), Bader (R), Acuña (R), & McNeil (L).
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Check out the Mets' & Dodgers' respective NLCS rosters:  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 4:32 pm : link


McNeil, Acuña both make Mets' NLCS roster; Ottavino off | 2:06 pm EDT | By Anthony DiComo @AnthonyDiComo

-The Mets have got 14 roster players this time as opposed to 13 from the last two playoff rounds, hence a 5-man bench as opposed to 4. Let's see how things go with one less pitcher on the roster (tough luck Ottavino).


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Dodgers release NLCS roster: Kiermaier, Honeywell on; Rojas, Vesia off | 1:36 PM EDT | By Juan Toribio | @juanctoribio

-No Rojas and Vesia for the Dodgers.
Here's where we stand with the MLB Playoffs & schedule so far:  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 5:07 pm : link





2024 Postseason Schedule - MLB.com - ( New Window )
LGM!!!  
GF1080 : 10/13/2024 5:28 pm : link
Woo it's up!
Predictions fellas?  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 5:31 pm : link
Here's mine:

Mets in 6

-Mets will feast on the Dodgers' bullpen and knock around their starters. Our LHPs need to limit the damage their lefty hitters (namely Ohtani, Freeman, Muncy, & Lux) do.
Why not do a thread for each game?  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/13/2024 5:33 pm : link
That’s gonna be one really long thread esp
If you want to catch up
Or find a specific comment
RE: Why not do a thread for each game?  
pjcas18 : 10/13/2024 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16644577 DC Gmen Fan said:
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That’s gonna be one really long thread esp
If you want to catch up
Or find a specific comment


You really want to change up the mojo now? Optimus series thread start was a catalyst for this whole run.
RE: Why not do a thread for each game?  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 5:49 pm : link
In comment 16644577 DC Gmen Fan said:
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That’s gonna be one really long thread esp
If you want to catch up
Or find a specific comment


No
RE: RE: Why not do a thread for each game?  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 5:51 pm : link
In comment 16644580 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16644577 DC Gmen Fan said:


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That’s gonna be one really long thread esp
If you want to catch up
Or find a specific comment



You really want to change up the mojo now? Optimus series thread start was a catalyst for this whole run.


He's not even a Mets fan. He roots for the Prison Stripers.
Prison Stripers  
X : 10/13/2024 5:57 pm : link
I like that! lol
Lfgm!  
JayBinQueens : 10/13/2024 5:57 pm : link
Let the magic continue.
Here are some articles:  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 6:05 pm : link
Five Key Storylines To Watch In The NLCS | Posted by Andrew Steele-Davis | Oct 13, 2024

MMO Roundtable: NLCS and ALCS Predictions | Posted by James Villani | Oct 13, 2024

A look at Mets’ NLCS appearances through the years: The Mets have enjoyed some great and not-so-great moments in the League Championship Series. | By Vasilis Drimalitis @vasdrimalitis Oct 13, 2024, 11:00am EDT

Mets vs. Dodgers: 5 things you might have forgotten about when they last played: A lot more happened the last time these two teams played than a glove going into the crowd. | By Tim Boyle |5 hours ago

Mets roster leftover from the previous regime remains a crucial piece in the playoffs: An obvious candidate the Mets could have dumped after 2023, Reed Garrett continues to show his value in 2024. | By Tim Boyle |9 hours ago

Majority of Mets fans have their NLCS wish granted: It's the NLCS matchup most fans seemed to desire. | By Tim Boyle |Oct 12, 2024

3 struggling Mets players who need to step up most against the Dodgers in the NLCS: A big NLCS from any of these three can help make a difference. | By Tim Boyle |12 hours ago

Three keys for the Mets to make the World Series: Let’s look at the big things that could help the Mets advance again. | By Chris McShane @chrismcshane | Oct 13, 2024, 10:00am EDT
RE: Lfgm!  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 6:07 pm : link
In comment 16644598 JayBinQueens said:
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Let the magic continue.


It's not magic. These guys deserve to be here. They've had the best record in all of baseball over the course of the last two-thirds of the regular season into the playoffs. If they beat the Dodgers, then I expect them to win the World Series.
RE: Predictions fellas?  
81_Great_Dane : 10/13/2024 6:08 pm : link
In comment 16644576 Optimus-NY said:
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Here's mine:

Mets in 6

-Mets will feast on the Dodgers' bullpen and knock around their starters. Our LHPs need to limit the damage their lefty hitters (namely Ohtani, Freeman, Muncy, & Lux) do.
No prediction but the Mets can win this series. I think the two teams are pretty even. Keep Ohtani and Betts from wrecking the game. Dodgers will feel the same about Lindor.
RE: RE: Lfgm!  
JayBinQueens : 10/13/2024 6:14 pm : link
In comment 16644603 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16644598 JayBinQueens said:


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Let the magic continue.



It's not magic. These guys deserve to be here. They've had the best record in all of baseball over the course of the last two-thirds of the regular season into the playoffs. If they beat the Dodgers, then I expect them to win the World Series.


The word wasn't used as a slight. These last 2 weeks have been nothing short of magical. 3 of the top what, 10-15 post season moments in Mets history have happened. Different guys stepping up and not relying solely on the stars.

Hoping for a big night from Alvarez to hopefully get him going
The next chapter of Mets vs Dodgers postseason history begins tonight.  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 6:15 pm : link
I'll never forget what happened in 1988. Total lost opportunity and choke job.


MLB Network @MLBNetwork - 10:05 AM · Oct 13, 2024 · 90K Views - ( New Window )
I don't know about you guys, but I don't like going into this series  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 6:20 pm : link
with one less pitcher. It's their first best-of-seven, so it's almost certainly longer. I would've replaced Acuna with McNeil myself and added LHP Lucchesi to the roster in place of Ottavino.

P.S. Jeff had better be healthy and they had better be adding him only if he's healthy. Don't need any legacy roster spots at this stage of the game.
nym hitters dont have a ton of history against the LAD pitchers since  
Eric on Li : 10/13/2024 6:36 pm : link
many of them are newer to NL. Kopech, Flaherty (winker hits him well), Yamamoto etc.

that said lindor and alonso have done well against Treinan and Daniel Hudson. LAD had 5 relievers pitch 2+ times vs SD, they were 2 of them along with kopech (had 3), phillips, banda (not good splits vs righties). phillips wasnt so good against lefties, so in game like today's i cant imagine they want him in vs lindor/nimmo/winker.

over a 7 game series if they can make a few of these LAD relievers liabilities it will have a big impact. if they need to go to kopech every time the top of the order comes up that's going to be a heavy load for him to carry.



another way to contextualize that last point  
Eric on Li : 10/13/2024 6:54 pm : link
here's a list the dodgers pitchers most effective pitches from most to least over the season.

you will notice right away 5 of the top 10 are not available in this series. flaherty and yamamoto are the 2 starters who are carrying a ton of run prevention in their arms, whereas the mets have the load split among 5 different starters who each have pitches that are distinct weapons.

Treinan and Kopech are carrying a ton of weight in the LAD BP.



on the mets side you can see they didnt have the same kind of depth but their good health has them in better position. there have been a bunch of athletic articles on this but u can see how enormously sinker dependent they are too.



here's senga from last year, obviously if he is in form that's a big boost as well:



with the sinkers being so prominent among met pitchers, here's how LAD hitters fared against sinkers this year, dont think they should throw any to betts:

The Mets have the following career numbers against Flaherty:  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 7:54 pm : link
As per this article from MMO.com

*Pay close attention to Winker's numbers against him.*

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Pete Alonso 2-3, 2B, K
Jose Iglesias 0-5, K
Francisco Lindor 0-4, BB, K
Starling Marte 4-22, HR, BB, 7 K
J.D. Martinez 1-2, K
Tyrone Taylor 0-4, 2 K
Jesse Winker 8-21, 2 1B, 2 HR, 3 BB, 3 K


RE: I don't know about you guys, but I don't like going into this series  
56goat : 10/13/2024 8:06 pm : link
In comment 16644613 Optimus-NY said:
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with one less pitcher. It's their first best-of-seven, so it's almost certainly longer. I would've replaced Acuna with McNeil myself and added LHP Lucchesi to the roster in place of Ottavino.

P.S. Jeff had better be healthy and they had better be adding him only if he's healthy. Don't need any legacy roster spots at this stage of the game.


I was surprised by that also, not sure that was a good idea.
RE: RE: I don't know about you guys, but I don't like going into this series  
Mike in NY : 10/13/2024 8:10 pm : link
In comment 16644723 56goat said:
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In comment 16644613 Optimus-NY said:


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with one less pitcher. It's their first best-of-seven, so it's almost certainly longer. I would've replaced Acuna with McNeil myself and added LHP Lucchesi to the roster in place of Ottavino.

P.S. Jeff had better be healthy and they had better be adding him only if he's healthy. Don't need any legacy roster spots at this stage of the game.



I was surprised by that also, not sure that was a good idea.


McNeil provides the flexibility to play OF if Taylor can’t rebound although it impacts our defense. I think the feeling is if they got down to Lucchesi anyway they could use Young or Megill to fill innings.
LETTTSFKNNNNGOO  
Rory : 10/13/2024 8:11 pm : link
checking in. AROD picked Mets in 6.

McNeil Back!

Senga for 50, DP ready to get nasty after

Beginning of season we all made our predictions and all agreed we wanted meaningful September Baseball. Wellll how about October baby.

Pumped LFGM!
Here are links to tonight's game:  
Optimus-NY : 10/13/2024 8:14 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets @ Dodgers: | 8:15 pm EDT start - October 13, 2024 – TV Broadcast: National feed – FOX: Davis & Smoltz (strfish.xyz)

Mets @ Dodgers: | 8:15 pm EDT start - October 13, 2024 – TV Broadcast: National feed – FOX: Davis & Smoltz (dudestream.com)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Dodgers – October 13, 2024 - 8:15 pm EDT start


Enjoy tonight's game 😊
What a disaster start for Senga  
CooperDash : 10/13/2024 8:36 pm : link
Good lord.
I hope thats the last we see of Senga this year.  
BigBlueNH : 10/13/2024 8:40 pm : link
You can't take a chance of running someone out there who can't command any of his stuff to like that. He's got a good excuse - lack of work. But these games aren't the time to work out his issues

Megill is the obvious choice to start the next inning.
Mendoza - what are you doing???  
CooperDash : 10/13/2024 8:49 pm : link
Senga is in la la land today. Make a move.
Yuck  
moze1021 : 10/13/2024 8:51 pm : link
Couldn't have started NLCS much worse...

And we are down a pitcher.

Yikes
big throw out on Ohtani  
Rory : 10/13/2024 8:57 pm : link
lets build up some momentum and get a few runs.

fuck em
Way to go, Garrett. Nice outing.  
CooperDash : 10/13/2024 9:12 pm : link
Always believed in you.
Let's get a baserunner!  
moze1021 : 10/13/2024 9:18 pm : link
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Knew it wouldn’t  
Everyone Relax : 10/13/2024 9:37 pm : link
Be easy. Good thing it’s 7 game series
Yeah  
moze1021 : 10/13/2024 9:50 pm : link
7 game series

Win tomorrow and no one cares about this.

Would always rather lose like this than a heartbreaker
RE: RE: RE: Why not do a thread for each game?  
DC Gmen Fan : 10/13/2024 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16644593 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 16644580 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 16644577 DC Gmen Fan said:


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That’s gonna be one really long thread esp
If you want to catch up
Or find a specific comment



You really want to change up the mojo now? Optimus series thread start was a catalyst for this whole run.



He's not even a Mets fan. He roots for the Prison Stripers.


Hey I'm pulling for the Mets to get to the WS. Plus I hate the Dodgers. I'd love to see a Subway Series.

Go Mets!
anyone who has been watching Flaherty's starts  
Rory : 10/13/2024 10:00 pm : link
throughout the postseason saw he's been going deeper and getting better and better. Not surprised it all culminated tonight. he's also around 80 pitches

Lets get him out and see what this Dodgers bullpen's all about ....
Flaherty was nasty  
moze1021 : 10/13/2024 10:20 pm : link
Hat tip and move on.

Should get Jeff an at bat today. Maybe think about giving him an OF start?
First game of the playoffs where the Mets have looked overmatched  
81_Great_Dane : 10/13/2024 10:42 pm : link
and I don't think they are, really. Bad night so far.
RE: First game of the playoffs where the Mets have looked overmatched  
CooperDash : 10/13/2024 10:47 pm : link
In comment 16645699 81_Great_Dane said:
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and I don't think they are, really. Bad night so far.


Tough to come out and spot the other team 3 runs right out of the gate. Flaherty was on point all night but the Mets had a few times where they could have broke through, and just couldn’t get there.

Dodgers are playing loose and just getting the bat on the ball for hits. Might have been a different game if Senga wasn’t a complete disaster. I wonder how he looked warming up. Couldn’t have been good.
I know the Dodgers hate the Padres so much  
moespree : 10/13/2024 10:54 pm : link
It does worry me that being down 2-1 to them unleashed a buzzsaw.

They definitely have the appearance of a switch being flipped once that happened.

That being said it's a 7 game series and the good news is I can't imagine the Mets playing worse than they did today.
We looked like a little league team tonight  
Rob in Rockaway : 10/13/2024 10:58 pm : link
or they made us look like that.
Really have to take the game tomorrow  
Chris684 : 10/13/2024 11:06 pm : link
Manaea vs bullpen.

We’ll be looking good if we can do that.
Mets @ Dodgers: Game 2 – ⚾Manaea (R) vs. Brasier (R) ⚾– 4:08 pm EDT  
Optimus-NY : 10/14/2024 2:14 pm : link

Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for tonight in Chavez Ravine & after tomorrow in Flushing.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Today’s game will be televised on FOX and FS1. Tomorrow's game will be on FS1.
-The weather forecast for today's game at Dodger Stadium is dandy again. Click HERE to keep updated & see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-If you didn’t see it yet, click HERE to see the Mets’ 26-man roster for the NLCS. Click HERE to see the Dodgers’ NLCS roster too if you didn’t see it yesterday. The Dodgers have named their starting pitchers up until Game 4. The Mets have only done so up until Game 3. Today’s game will be a bullpen outing by the Dodgers. Click HERE to read about it.

-Click HERE to see the list of the Mets’ roster transactions so far in October.
-Click HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active playoff roster for this series.
-The Mets' 5-man bench for today’s game will consist of Torrens (R), Martinez (R), Bader (R), Acuña (R), & McNeil (L).
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 10/14/2024 4:12 pm : link
*Courtesy of sportsurge.net*

Mets @ Dodgers: | 4:08 pm EDT start - October 14, 2024 – TV Broadcast: National feed – FOX & FS1: Davis & Smoltz (strfish.xyz)

Mets @ Dodgers: | 4:08 pm EDT start - October 14, 2024 – TV Broadcast: National feed – FOX & FS1: Davis & Smoltz (dudestream.com)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Dodgers – October 14, 2024 - 4:08 pm EDT start


Enjoy today's game 😊
Lindor  
GF1080 : 10/14/2024 4:13 pm : link
Baby!!
Way to start!!!!!!  
Optimus-NY : 10/14/2024 4:14 pm : link
Home Run Lindor!!!

WOOOO!!
Lindor - starts things off!!!  
Ira : 10/14/2024 4:14 pm : link
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Lots of hard contact.  
Everyone Relax : 10/14/2024 4:18 pm : link
Keep it up
walking Lindor is definitely a strategy  
JayBinQueens : 10/14/2024 4:41 pm : link
and Vientos makes them pay!!
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/14/2024 4:43 pm : link
GRAND SLAM!!!

Go METS!!! F the Dodgers.
LFGM  
spike : 10/14/2024 4:43 pm : link
!
You wanna' walk Lindor  
rebel yell : 10/14/2024 4:43 pm : link
bitches? Okay.
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