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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/13/2024 6:20 pm
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/13/2024 6:22 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Giants-Bengals pregame thoughts:

• This is a chance for the Giants to make a statement. The Bengals are 1-4, but if their defense (which is getting healthier up front) can provide *any* resistance, they're still a formidable team. Plus, they're desperate. The Giants will be getting Cincy's best shot. A win would get the Giants to .500 heading into the Saquon Bowl, and then things could really take off.

• Daniel Jones' prime-time struggles are well-documented. His home struggles have slipped under the radar a bit. The Giants are 0-2 this season and the offense hasn't scored a TD in Jones' last four home starts (dating back to the 2022 season). Big chance to exorcise some demons tonight.

• Would be big for the Giants to jump on the Bengals early. Cincinnati's defense had the dreaded players-only meeting this week. A quick score or two could break their spirit.

• The Giants rank 26th in red zone TD percentage. They need to finish drives with touchdowns tonight. The Bengals have the 31st ranked third-down defense. The Giants are middle of the pack in third-down offense, but they're seventh in plays per drive. They'll take points however they can get them, but would be beneficial to have some sustained drives to keep Joe Burrow & Co. on the sideline.

• Obviously, Tyrone Tracy will be the work horse, but I expect to see Jones use his legs more again tonight. Also think you'll see some jet seeps incorporated.

• Trey Hendrickson essentially is the Bengals' pass rush. He has three sacks and 22 pressures; no other Bengal has more than one sack and 10 pressures. Hendrickson is the rare edge rusher who lines up exclusively one on side. So it'll be Hendrickson vs. Andrew Thomas all night. Big matchup for Thomas as he continues to build his resume.

• Shane Bowen's defenses in Tennessee had success against Burrow: 3 points, 20 points, 19 points in the last three meetings. The Titans' pass rush was the key in those matchups (nine sacks in Cincy's 19-16 win in the 2021 divisional round). Basically can't blitz Burrow because he'll destroy it, so will be key for the front four to get home. Should be another game with a lot of simulated pressures. The Giants are ninth in red zone TD percentage. The Bengals are going to move the ball. Ending drives with field goals will be a win for the Giants.

• With Kayvon Thibodeaux out at least the next four weeks, this is a golden opportunity for Azeez Ojulari in a contract year. Ojulari can fill the void as a pass rusher, but he's not as stout against the run. Imagine we'll see Patrick Johnson and/or Boogie Basham mixed in on some early downs.

• Rookie LB Darius Muasau rotated in for Micah McFadden for one series last week. Expect that to continue, likely a series per half, depending on the game flow. They want to get the rookie integrated.

• The Giants' young corners had their best game of the season last week: Their reward: An even tougher challenge tonight.

Deonte Banks has been traveling with the opposing team's No. 1 WR every game. Maybe that's just how they'll operate regardless of opponent. Wonder though if this is the matchup that calls for a change-up. Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins are both No. 1 WRs, and it's harder to disguise coverages when a corner is following a receiver. Need to at least try to disguise against Burrow, even though he's a great processor. If they do travel, I'd expect Banks to be on Chase. Tackling will be a key in the secondary because he's so dangerous after the catch.

• Another specialist change with Matt Haack getting signed yesterday to replace punter Jamie Gillan, who got hurt in practice. That also means a new holder for new-ish kicker Greg Joseph.
I think the Giants can win this one.  
truebluelarry : 10/13/2024 6:28 pm : link
And it's about time they win a damned prime time game!
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/13/2024 6:39 pm : link
Might be the beer talking, but Giants 27-21.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/13/2024 7:03 pm : link
GIANTS INACTIVES:
WR Malik Nabers
P Jamie Gillan
RB Devin Singletary
CB Tre Hawkins III
G Jake Kubas
WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton
QB (3rd) Tommy DeVito

BENGALS INACTIVES:
DE Cedric Johnson
T Andrew Stueber
DT Lawrence Guy
WR Jermaine Burton
TE Tanner McLachlan
DT Jay Tufele
Very disappointing that Hawkins is  
cosmicj : 10/13/2024 7:16 pm : link
Inactive.
RE: Very disappointing that Hawkins is  
RCPhoenix : 10/13/2024 7:19 pm : link
In comment 16644688 cosmicj said:
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Inactive.


He was a late round pick - it happens.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/13/2024 7:26 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Kayvon Thibodeaux is on the sideline with his right wrist in a brace.
Gillan  
mittenedman : 10/13/2024 7:41 pm : link
could get Wally Pip’d. I know he has a good avg but I don’t think he’s a very good P.
RE: Gillan  
TinVA : 10/13/2024 7:43 pm : link
In comment 16644701 mittenedman said:
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could get Wally Pip’d. I know he has a good avg but I don’t think he’s a very good P.


How can he have a good average but not be good?
The hour doth grow late. The ethereal twilight gloaming  
Stephen in Sofla : 10/13/2024 7:47 pm : link
Is past, and all is in shadow beneath the gibbous moon.
But wait,
Incandescent arcs of light erupt to banish the night from the gridiron below.
A crowd, both restless but willing to believe, assembles from distant parts.
Their sussurant murmur will soon greet the brave visitors looking to redeem a fallen season.

But hark, the fearsome home team emerges from the cavernous under dwelling, and a mighty roar of hope swells to a crescendo.

Let the game begin..
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/13/2024 7:49 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Big opportunity for OLB Azeez Ojulari. He will get the majority of Kayvon Thibodeaux's snaps. Ojulari hadn't topped 28 defensive snaps over first 5 weeks. He should top that on Sunday night.

Ojulari's most productive season was as a rookie when he had 8.0 sacks.
Pretty  
AcidTest : 10/13/2024 7:51 pm : link
clear that absent injuries, Hawkins will be inactive every week. If that happens, then I'd be surprised if he's with the team next year. But as someone said, he was a late round pick. They rarely work out.
Lovin’  
pivo : 10/13/2024 8:12 pm : link
That 8 of 9 “experts” picked Bungals. KISS of death…
GO  
AcidTest : 10/13/2024 8:13 pm : link
GIANTS!
RE: Lovin’  
Eightshamrocks : 10/13/2024 8:14 pm : link
In comment 16644730 pivo said:
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That 8 of 9 “experts” picked Bungals. KISS of death…
Complete lack of respect for the Giants. Based off their performanceast week, I find this surprising.
RE: RE: Lovin’  
AcidTest : 10/13/2024 8:15 pm : link
In comment 16644732 Eightshamrocks said:
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In comment 16644730 pivo said:


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That 8 of 9 “experts” picked Bungals. KISS of death…

Complete lack of respect for the Giants. Based off their performanceast week, I find this surprising.


+1.
RE: ...  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 10/13/2024 8:15 pm : link
In comment 16644616 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Giants-Bengals pregame thoughts:

• This is a chance for the Giants to make a statement. The Bengals are 1-4, but if their defense (which is getting healthier up front) can provide *any* resistance, they're still a formidable team. Plus, they're desperate. The Giants will be getting Cincy's best shot. A win would get the Giants to .500 heading into the Saquon Bowl, and then things could really take off.

• Daniel Jones' prime-time struggles are well-documented. His home struggles have slipped under the radar a bit. The Giants are 0-2 this season and the offense hasn't scored a TD in Jones' last four home starts (dating back to the 2022 season). Big chance to exorcise some demons tonight.

• Would be big for the Giants to jump on the Bengals early. Cincinnati's defense had the dreaded players-only meeting this week. A quick score or two could break their spirit.

• The Giants rank 26th in red zone TD percentage. They need to finish drives with touchdowns tonight. The Bengals have the 31st ranked third-down defense. The Giants are middle of the pack in third-down offense, but they're seventh in plays per drive. They'll take points however they can get them, but would be beneficial to have some sustained drives to keep Joe Burrow & Co. on the sideline.

• Obviously, Tyrone Tracy will be the work horse, but I expect to see Jones use his legs more again tonight. Also think you'll see some jet seeps incorporated.

• Trey Hendrickson essentially is the Bengals' pass rush. He has three sacks and 22 pressures; no other Bengal has more than one sack and 10 pressures. Hendrickson is the rare edge rusher who lines up exclusively one on side. So it'll be Hendrickson vs. Andrew Thomas all night. Big matchup for Thomas as he continues to build his resume.

• Shane Bowen's defenses in Tennessee had success against Burrow: 3 points, 20 points, 19 points in the last three meetings. The Titans' pass rush was the key in those matchups (nine sacks in Cincy's 19-16 win in the 2021 divisional round). Basically can't blitz Burrow because he'll destroy it, so will be key for the front four to get home. Should be another game with a lot of simulated pressures. The Giants are ninth in red zone TD percentage. The Bengals are going to move the ball. Ending drives with field goals will be a win for the Giants.

• With Kayvon Thibodeaux out at least the next four weeks, this is a golden opportunity for Azeez Ojulari in a contract year. Ojulari can fill the void as a pass rusher, but he's not as stout against the run. Imagine we'll see Patrick Johnson and/or Boogie Basham mixed in on some early downs.

• Rookie LB Darius Muasau rotated in for Micah McFadden for one series last week. Expect that to continue, likely a series per half, depending on the game flow. They want to get the rookie integrated.

• The Giants' young corners had their best game of the season last week: Their reward: An even tougher challenge tonight.

Deonte Banks has been traveling with the opposing team's No. 1 WR every game. Maybe that's just how they'll operate regardless of opponent. Wonder though if this is the matchup that calls for a change-up. Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins are both No. 1 WRs, and it's harder to disguise coverages when a corner is following a receiver. Need to at least try to disguise against Burrow, even though he's a great processor. If they do travel, I'd expect Banks to be on Chase. Tackling will be a key in the secondary because he's so dangerous after the catch.

• Another specialist change with Matt Haack getting signed yesterday to replace punter Jamie Gillan, who got hurt in practice. That also means a new holder for new-ish kicker Greg Joseph.



All but one analyst picked the Bengals. it would be nice to get a win to get some respect back from the league.
Giants can get a DC fired tonight....that's always fun....really only  
Burst Bubble 25 : 10/13/2024 8:15 pm : link
thing to look forward to as an accomplished of late.
RE: The hour doth grow late. The ethereal twilight gloaming  
OntheRoad : 10/13/2024 8:16 pm : link
"Gibbous" was my grandfather's favorite word.
 
christian : 10/13/2024 8:17 pm : link
I don't believe in the hokum about prime time games. The Giants are the better team and they should win this game.
Win  
AcidTest : 10/13/2024 8:19 pm : link
the game. No excuses.
Let’s  
NYPanos : 10/13/2024 8:20 pm : link
Goooo
 
christian : 10/13/2024 8:24 pm : link
I hope Bowen goes after Burrow relentlessly.
If they stop Chase...  
DefenseWins : 10/13/2024 8:25 pm : link
and we can run the ball, then we should win.
We  
AcidTest : 10/13/2024 8:26 pm : link
overran Burrow and left a huge hole for him to run through.
RE: We  
DefenseWins : 10/13/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16644746 AcidTest said:
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overran Burrow and left a huge hole for him to run through.


Dex was turned outside creating the space
Mr. Burns  
jeff57 : 10/13/2024 8:28 pm : link
.
 
christian : 10/13/2024 8:28 pm : link
Sneaky good sack there!
There we go burns  
Knickstape : 10/13/2024 8:29 pm : link
Let’s go
Burns  
Giantsfan79 : 10/13/2024 8:29 pm : link
waking up
We need to get the defense off of the field  
DefenseWins : 10/13/2024 8:29 pm : link
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Oh Come on  
jeff57 : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
.
WTH  
Sammo85 : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
was that.
Where was the defense?  
NYerInMA : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
Burrow isn't even that fast.
HAHAHA.  
AcidTest : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
Only the Giants would let Joe Burrow run 50 yards on a third and 18 for a TD. Unreal.
Lmao  
Knickstape : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
Crap  
Stephen in Sofla : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
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Good defense  
JT039 : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
Crap  
56goat : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
Burrow TD.
 
christian : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
Whoa
Can’t let that happen  
jeff57 : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
Where was everybody
Fucking  
BigBlueinDE : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
embarrassing.
Fucking kidding right!  
Simms11 : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
.
Holy  
Toth029 : 10/13/2024 8:30 pm : link
Contain, defense.
why would you blitz on 3rd adn 18  
bigbluewillrise : 10/13/2024 8:31 pm : link
wow

play coverage.
What is this stupid defense alignment?  
PatersonPlank : 10/13/2024 8:31 pm : link
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3rd and 18.  
bceagle05 : 10/13/2024 8:31 pm : link
47-yard TD. Come the fuck on.
Terrible job  
Sammo85 : 10/13/2024 8:31 pm : link
By the back seven of the defense.
......  
Route 9 : 10/13/2024 8:31 pm : link
What a bunch of little wimps
What the fuck was that  
illmatic : 10/13/2024 8:31 pm : link
Pee-wee league shit.
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