Door numbers A (Slayton) and C (Theo) were wide open and well lit. He chose the dank and dingy Door number B (WDR). "He chose....poooorly" - ( New Window )
He so involved in "Not Making a Mistake ",that he
makes more mistakes then he should. He doesn't
trust himself.He would be a terrible law enforcement officer..He'd be dead already, or shot someone who was innocent.
RE: And people are saying this current college QB draft will be weak??
We have to see the tape.........Watching inaccurate passes week after week, unless you blame the receivers or OL,why is he letting the scholarship guy still start?
As someone last night said, we are averaging 15 points per game how much worse under Locke or DeVito? And we have not played awesome defenses to date.
Slayton was never covered. Jones football IQ is zero. No feel or anticipation at all. Every QB in the NFL makes that read and throw to Slayton. Not Daniel . He was a QB born without instincts at all. It's sad to watch .
It's like he can't throw to a guy unless he stops and turns around
What does he think, a player that is not moving will stay open? That a defender won't get there to break it up (or flatten the receiver)? What is this, high school?!?
until the ball was already out and the defenders then reacted to that action.
That's a ridiculous take.
Slayton is breaking to the outside and the corner covering him has inside leverage with his hips turned to the middle of the field. There is no way that he can get to the ball if it's thrown towards the sideline. It's impossible.
Before Jones throws the ball it is obvious that Slayton is going to be wide open but no, he throws the ball to the only receiver on that side of the field that has a defender breaking on the route.
If an idiot like me can see that so can the rest of the league.
or just asserting authority? Happy to concede your authority (I mean I don't really care, it's a message board). But it's strange that you're not challenging him on the merits.
Pretty clear to me you never played the position so don't act like you have.
Nice try. Have you heard of timing patterns or not?
If not, it means throwing the ball before the receiver starts to turn and receive the ball.
Stop making things up. Everybody knows there is no such thing as timing patterns. How do you expect to complete a football pass based on timing...that could never happen.
he locked on to Slaytong and Robinson was wide open. I think even a defender early in the season said the same thing about Jones.
Yes that was just as bad. Same thing really. Robinson was 2 yds clear of anyone and would probably have gotten 10-20 yards. Instead he locks onto Slayton, who is tightly covered, and tries to jamb the ball in there.
This is also why I push back on complaints about Dabolls play calling
Pretty clear to me you never played the position so don't act like you have.
Nice try. Have you heard of timing patterns or not?
If not, it means throwing the ball before the receiver starts to turn and receive the ball.
Stop making things up. Everybody knows there is no such thing as timing patterns. How do you expect to complete a football pass based on timing...that could never happen.
Is someone seriously still making excuses for Jones?
And posturing as someone with superior insight because of some ghost-claim of once being a QB himself?
RE: This is also why I push back on complaints about Dabolls play calling
These guys are open, its Jones just not throwing to them. Daboll has good schemes and gets guys open
If you look at Jones's throwing charts, he much prefers to go underneath and between the numbers. And it's pretty clear that Hilton expects/knows that and moves quickly to the spot where Robinson is going. Easiest read ever for him.
Meanwhile, Anthony, the single high safety, is completely confused and running backwards to get into position. IMV, Jones should have read that and exploited the seam route for Johnson. That would have been a huge play.
Slayton was never covered. Jones football IQ is zero. No feel or anticipation at all. Every QB in the NFL makes that read and throw to Slayton. Not Daniel . He was a QB born without instincts at all. It's sad to watch .
I was watching the game in bed...nuff said. I saw the play and yelled thats they guy he open and Jones throws to a double covered receiver!
We had the same discussion last year. Man open in the end zone Jones throws a pick to a double covered receiver. Jones doesn't see the field.
Where the tennis ball drill Dab seas known for? Have 5 guys lined up in throwing zones with tennis balls- after the snap have them throw tennis balls in seconds interval. Jones has to catch the ball or react to the area the ball was thrown...why not try it. It makes his head move or he gets pegged with a ball. Three pegs and he run sprints.
If he can't get through that drill he doesn't belong on the field..
Slayton was never covered. Jones football IQ is zero. No feel or anticipation at all. Every QB in the NFL makes that read and throw to Slayton. Not Daniel . He was a QB born without instincts at all. It's sad to watch .
I was watching the game in bed...nuff said. I saw the play and yelled thats they guy he open and Jones throws to a double covered receiver!
We had the same discussion last year. Man open in the end zone Jones throws a pick to a double covered receiver. Jones doesn't see the field.
Where the tennis ball drill Dab seas known for? Have 5 guys lined up in throwing zones with tennis balls- after the snap have them throw tennis balls in seconds interval. Jones has to catch the ball or react to the area the ball was thrown...why not try it. It makes his head move or he gets pegged with a ball. Three pegs and he run sprints.
If he can't get through that drill he doesn't belong on the field..
I can’t believe we are going through this in year 6
These guys are open, its Jones just not throwing to them. Daboll has good schemes and gets guys open
I've been going through this all season. I initially get frustrated with our offensive production and lump Daboll in. Then watch some replays, all 22, etc. and see guys open and ease off Daboll. There is one constant problem with our offense. And, I really wish people would stop hanging on 2022 as if it was a great accomplishment. We had a mediocre offense and the QB play was mediocre. It's just that the team overall did just enough to make the playoffs.
or just asserting authority? Happy to concede your authority (I mean I don't really care, it's a message board). But it's strange that you're not challenging him on the merits.
No. The question that poster asked has nothing to do with my initial post on this thread and was not applicable to that timeframe I mentioned.
The other two options didn't turn around
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until the ball was already out and the defenders then reacted to that action.
Can you please explain what that means because it sure as hells reads like you believe the QB can't throw the ball unless the receiver is watching him.
RE: RE: This is also why I push back on complaints about Dabolls play calling
These guys are open, its Jones just not throwing to them. Daboll has good schemes and gets guys open
I've been going through this all season. I initially get frustrated with our offensive production and lump Daboll in. Then watch some replays, all 22, etc. and see guys open and ease off Daboll. There is one constant problem with our offense. And, I really wish people would stop hanging on 2022 as if it was a great accomplishment. We had a mediocre offense and the QB play was mediocre. It's just that the team overall did just enough to make the playoffs.
Also Minnesota had an abominable defense for a playoff team that year. Then we ran into the Eagles. The games looked a tad different.
Bw. There is a lot that goes into timing routes within a play and I commented on when the ball was released. He had a chance at all three options with different risk/difficulty levels. He was late on the throw he made.
Bw. There is a lot that goes into timing routes within a play and I commented on when the ball was released. He had a chance at all three options with different risk/difficulty levels. He was late on the throw he made.
That sounds cleaner, but that's not all what you said.
You specifically ruled out the other two options - Slayton on the out and Johnson on the seam - because "they didn't turn around".
Either you realize now how silly that sounds or, worse, you don't realize how silly that sounds.
makes more mistakes then he should. He doesn't
trust himself.He would be a terrible law enforcement officer..He'd be dead already, or shot someone who was innocent.
There are a lot of posters on this board who are dedicated members of the Draft-Sure-Things-Only-Society.
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I think many, if not all, of them can make a better read/throw than this clown.
There are a lot of posters on this board who are dedicated members of the Draft-Sure-Things-Only-Society.
Ok, I am SURE many of the college prospects on my short list can make a better read/throw.
Do I get to come to the society meetings now?
He was awful last night. If he had an adequate QB, we win that game & are right in the thick of the NFC East race.
As someone last night said, we are averaging 15 points per game how much worse under Locke or DeVito? And we have not played awesome defenses to date.
What does he think, a player that is not moving will stay open? That a defender won't get there to break it up (or flatten the receiver)? What is this, high school?!?
He was awful last night. If he had an adequate QB, we win that game & are right in the thick of the NFC East race.
Our already hard working QB will just have to work harder. And that shouldn't be a problem because that - apparently - is Jones's greatest attribute.
I'm hopeful that in year seven that hard work starts to manifest on the field.
people who've never played have all the answers
That's a ridiculous take.
Slayton is breaking to the outside and the corner covering him has inside leverage with his hips turned to the middle of the field. There is no way that he can get to the ball if it's thrown towards the sideline. It's impossible.
Before Jones throws the ball it is obvious that Slayton is going to be wide open but no, he throws the ball to the only receiver on that side of the field that has a defender breaking on the route.
If an idiot like me can see that so can the rest of the league.
You've heard of the concept of timing patterns, right?
Nice try. Have you heard of timing patterns or not?
If not, it means throwing the ball before the receiver starts to turn and receive the ball.
You're welcome.
I hope you don't hurt your hand patting yourself on the back.
As expected, no answer to my straightforward question.
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Pretty clear to me you never played the position so don't act like you have.
Nice try. Have you heard of timing patterns or not?
If not, it means throwing the ball before the receiver starts to turn and receive the ball.
Stop making things up. Everybody knows there is no such thing as timing patterns. How do you expect to complete a football pass based on timing...that could never happen.
Ball should be in the air before he's turning around.
Either the ball needed to be out quicker or he should have waited a half second more for the outside route.
What is this franchise doing?
Yes that was just as bad. Same thing really. Robinson was 2 yds clear of anyone and would probably have gotten 10-20 yards. Instead he locks onto Slayton, who is tightly covered, and tries to jamb the ball in there.
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Pretty clear to me you never played the position so don't act like you have.
Nice try. Have you heard of timing patterns or not?
If not, it means throwing the ball before the receiver starts to turn and receive the ball.
Stop making things up. Everybody knows there is no such thing as timing patterns. How do you expect to complete a football pass based on timing...that could never happen.
Is someone seriously still making excuses for Jones?
And posturing as someone with superior insight because of some ghost-claim of once being a QB himself?
Good point. It’s like Fred Astaire being paired with an obese woman.
If you look at Jones's throwing charts, he much prefers to go underneath and between the numbers. And it's pretty clear that Hilton expects/knows that and moves quickly to the spot where Robinson is going. Easiest read ever for him.
Meanwhile, Anthony, the single high safety, is completely confused and running backwards to get into position. IMV, Jones should have read that and exploited the seam route for Johnson. That would have been a huge play.
I was watching the game in bed...nuff said. I saw the play and yelled thats they guy he open and Jones throws to a double covered receiver!
We had the same discussion last year. Man open in the end zone Jones throws a pick to a double covered receiver. Jones doesn't see the field.
Where the tennis ball drill Dab seas known for? Have 5 guys lined up in throwing zones with tennis balls- after the snap have them throw tennis balls in seconds interval. Jones has to catch the ball or react to the area the ball was thrown...why not try it. It makes his head move or he gets pegged with a ball. Three pegs and he run sprints.
If he can't get through that drill he doesn't belong on the field..
I was watching the game in bed...nuff said. I saw the play and yelled thats they guy he open and Jones throws to a double covered receiver!
We had the same discussion last year. Man open in the end zone Jones throws a pick to a double covered receiver. Jones doesn't see the field.
Where the tennis ball drill Dab seas known for? Have 5 guys lined up in throwing zones with tennis balls- after the snap have them throw tennis balls in seconds interval. Jones has to catch the ball or react to the area the ball was thrown...why not try it. It makes his head move or he gets pegged with a ball. Three pegs and he run sprints.
If he can't get through that drill he doesn't belong on the field..
No. The question that poster asked has nothing to do with my initial post on this thread and was not applicable to that timeframe I mentioned.
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until the ball was already out and the defenders then reacted to that action.
Can you please explain what that means because it sure as hells reads like you believe the QB can't throw the ball unless the receiver is watching him.
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These guys are open, its Jones just not throwing to them. Daboll has good schemes and gets guys open
I've been going through this all season. I initially get frustrated with our offensive production and lump Daboll in. Then watch some replays, all 22, etc. and see guys open and ease off Daboll. There is one constant problem with our offense. And, I really wish people would stop hanging on 2022 as if it was a great accomplishment. We had a mediocre offense and the QB play was mediocre. It's just that the team overall did just enough to make the playoffs.
Also Minnesota had an abominable defense for a playoff team that year. Then we ran into the Eagles. The games looked a tad different.
If you have 30 guys with the same situation only one throws where Jones did.
Imagine being Dabol and having to watch that?
That sounds cleaner, but that's not all what you said.
You specifically ruled out the other two options - Slayton on the out and Johnson on the seam - because "they didn't turn around".
Either you realize now how silly that sounds or, worse, you don't realize how silly that sounds.