I don't care how many decent road games he puts up.
Last five starts at home: 0 tds, 8 ints.
That is not even NFL backup caliber. I know this has been covered to some extent, but is not fair to the rest of the team to continue to start a QB who simply cannot perform at home.
He has to actually lead touchdown drives in this upcoming game to stay the starter. If not, we're just going to get back on this endless treadmill: Jones maybe puts up a decent game @Steelers, then flops again at home against Washington.
Would Lock or DeVito be worse on the road? Probably, but you can't start a QB who is simply not reliable at home.
There is no way Daboll has the authority to bench Jones. So he'd have to go to a meeting with Mara and beg him for permission.
Mara is in love with Daniel Jones and has a track record of killing coaches early and often. Whoever the QB is, we are probably winning 6 or 7 games this year. If Daboll burns his equity by embarrassing Daniel, he's a lot more likely to get fired.
This carp that Mara is in love with DJ holds no water with me. Maybe he was at one time, but constant losing changes opinions. I've been a DJ supporter since the draft. I continue to see instances of fine performances where I think he's going to be fine. However, that game Monday night was there to be won. DJ was Soley responsible for that loss. It was an atrocious performance, maybe his worst game ever. He let down his teammates, his coaches, the fans and himself, I think he should have said that at the post-game press conference. He has a ton of pressure and mis fortune,
but that only goes so far. If I'm upset with him, I'm sure Mara is too. IMO, If the next few games don't result in better play, make the change. Looks to me like he's lost his confidence. I've seen him play bad, but Monday was ridiculous!!
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That Jones is the starting QB in 2025 than getting benched next week.
There is no way Daboll has the authority to bench Jones. So he'd have to go to a meeting with Mara and beg him for permission.
Mara is in love with Daniel Jones and has a track record of killing coaches early and often. Whoever the QB is, we are probably winning 6 or 7 games this year. If Daboll burns his equity by embarrassing Daniel, he's a lot more likely to get fired.
This carp that Mara is in love with DJ holds no water with me. Maybe he was at one time, but constant losing changes opinions. I've been a DJ supporter since the draft. I continue to see instances of fine performances where I think he's going to be fine. However, that game Monday night was there to be won. DJ was Soley responsible for that loss. It was an atrocious performance, maybe his worst game ever. He let down his teammates, his coaches, the fans and himself, I think he should have said that at the post-game press conference. He has a ton of pressure and mis fortune,
but that only goes so far. If I'm upset with him, I'm sure Mara is too. IMO, If the next few games don't result in better play, make the change. Looks to me like he's lost his confidence. I've seen him play bad, but Monday was ridiculous!!
No franchise has stuck longer with a QB who has performed this badly than the Giants.
In NY, you need six years.
Does anyone else find this strange?
lol...classic.
All these young QBs from the last few drafts suck!!!
Jones needs more time!!!
Would love to hear him explain how drafting Nix was an error, but we need more time on Jones.
LOL
You guys have to stop taking Ryan seriously. The only way he got over his attachment to Gettleman’s brilliance was by transferring it to Daniel Jones’ quality play.
Ryan loves this team, but he watches it through the bluest tinted glasses that exist. He isn’t critically evaluating anything.
It’s hilarious because he’s still holding out hope that Daniel Jones is going to break out and somehow become consistently good and can’t bring himself to admit that he stinks.
“He’s the starter. They have an out after this season”
He shouldn’t be the starter. And so what that they have an out? They’re still wasting a season where the rest of the team is playing well and the division and looks fairly weak and the conference looks pretty wide open. They’re still wasting can’t even take advantage because they couldn’t entertain the idea of an actual competition at quarterback. Jones was preordained as the starter, no questions asked. Infuritating.
I'd really like to see Lock play and if the offense changes at all.
Giants have played 6 games. They aren't going to all of a sudden pack up shop and call it a season.
The bulk of you guys crying like little girls that the season is over is pathetic.
Let me guess - all of you hope we lose to Philly on Sunday right? Get over yourselves.
Giants have played 6 games. They aren't going to all of a sudden pack up shop and call it a season.
The bulk of you guys crying like little girls that the season is over is pathetic.
Let me guess - all of you hope we lose to Philly on Sunday right? Get over yourselves.
Look in the mirror.
The season is over, once again before Halloween. For the 5th time in 6 tries under Daniel Jones.
You and your love fest for a bad quarterback is pathetic.
Giants have played 6 games. They aren't going to all of a sudden pack up shop and call it a season.
The bulk of you guys crying like little girls that the season is over is pathetic.
Let me guess - all of you hope we lose to Philly on Sunday right? Get over yourselves.
It's not hope, it's reality. Philly wrote the book on Jones, so I have little faith that he'll have some kind of break-out game. Here's more reality, both Tyrod Taylor and Davis Webb (!) have had better games v Philly in one start each than Jones ever has. So who's crying now?
You're right guys, I was the one who initially brought up Nix. My bad.
I think don't think Nix will prove to be any better than Jones when all is said and done. So I'd prefer the Giants try to win this year with Jones and pick a higher ceiling quarterback than Nix next year.
See how that expresses similar sentiment, but doesn't make you sound like a total sniveling baby?
Do you really want that?
Now if Daboll ISN"T the head coach, I'll expect they'll go after a cheaper Vet to be stopgap until next year.
But still they try to see
Why something Jones can hurt so bad
Caught on a one-way street
The taste of bittersweet
Jones will survive somehow, somewhere
One Jones, feeds the fire
One Mara, burns desire
I wonder who's crying now?
Two hearts, born to run
Who'll be the lonely one?
I wonder who's crying now?
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stuck with Jones. Just a feeling, but his body language and responses seem to tell me that he was against this Jones decision but told by Schoen/Mara to just do the best he can with Jones this season because its all they have. His jog will be safe, and next year they will get him a QB.
He just seems resigned to the situation, like not fighting it anymore
On Hard Knocks Daboll's face lit up at the prospect of Jayden Daniels. You could see it.
My perspective on Daboll right now is that he is doing all he can to scheme the offense, and in that he is showing ownership that the team is hamstrung by Jones. But as someone alluded to yesterday, the locker room is only going to tolerate so much before it reaches it's peak of being fed up, and Daboll has to balance that to have the team buy in each week. Jones cannot remain the starter the whole season, and if John Mara doesn't like it, he can get lost.
SI says Dolphins, Raiders, Rams could land him.
What would be his price? Do Panthers let him go for less than a number one? First round seems steep for a player with his record, but Panthers will keep him and ease him back into the starting job.
Giants have no serious candidates to audition in the second half of the season. Criminal.
Giants have played 6 games. They aren't going to all of a sudden pack up shop and call it a season.
The bulk of you guys crying like little girls that the season is over is pathetic.
Let me guess - all of you hope we lose to Philly on Sunday right? Get over yourselves.
I definitely want the Giants to lose to Philly. Wins right now just encourage more bad behavior.
After 6 plus years, this team needs to come out of the wilderness and find a direction. The main way out of this is to part ways with Daniel Jones. It would be a step into the light plus would give him a second chance to prove himself on another team. So a win-win.
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That Jones is the starting QB in 2025 than getting benched next week.
There is no way Daboll has the authority to bench Jones. So he'd have to go to a meeting with Mara and beg him for permission.
Mara is in love with Daniel Jones and has a track record of killing coaches early and often. Whoever the QB is, we are probably winning 6 or 7 games this year. If Daboll burns his equity by embarrassing Daniel, he's a lot more likely to get fired.
This carp that Mara is in love with DJ holds no water with me. Maybe he was at one time, but constant losing changes opinions. I've been a DJ supporter since the draft. I continue to see instances of fine performances where I think he's going to be fine. However, that game Monday night was there to be won. DJ was Soley responsible for that loss. It was an atrocious performance, maybe his worst game ever. He let down his teammates, his coaches, the fans and himself, I think he should have said that at the post-game press conference. He has a ton of pressure and mis fortune,
but that only goes so far. If I'm upset with him, I'm sure Mara is too. IMO, If the next few games don't result in better play, make the change. Looks to me like he's lost his confidence. I've seen him play bad, but Monday was ridiculous!!
JFC, well if we don't see an improvement in DJ's play over the next few games...
What the hell have you been watching the last 6 years? DJ has been an absolute shitshow of a QB and you still need to see MORE!!!