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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5:54 pm
Ugh.
Giants fear significant Andrew Thomas foot injury in potential crushing development - ( New Window )
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Time for the Giants to be sellers  
GiantTuff1 : 6:41 pm : link
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Thomas being hurt affects Jones' injury clause  
GiantTuff1 : 6:42 pm : link
since it's more likely Jones can be injured...

RE: Time for the Giants to be sellers  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6:43 pm : link
In comment 16648754 GiantTuff1 said:
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Listen to the podcast tonight.
I just want to enjoy a football season one of these years-  
bigblue18 : 6:45 pm : link
I'm not ready to start looking at mock drafts, so depressing
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Bold prediction for the pod: Eric says-considering Thomas' injury-we have no choice but to run it back with Jones in 2025 because it wouldn't be fair to poor Daniel to not have Andrew @ LT. :-)
The Curse of Gettleman!  
It lingers and lingers ....
Increased medical coverage  
MauiYankee : 6:53 pm : link
DJ needs to increase his health coverage. Make sure ambulance trips are covered.
another option  
FJ : 6:55 pm : link
Justin Pugh is available. (ducks)
Sounds like it could be lisfranc  
jeff57 : 6:56 pm : link
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Well, there's the built in excuse  
Matt M. : 6:57 pm : link
for Jones to get year 7.
Who cares  
NYGiantFL007 : 6:58 pm : link
if he is hurt. As long as we have this garbage QB, I say rest up. AT will be here for 10 more years.
RE: Well, there's the built in excuse  
Ash_3 : 6:58 pm : link
In comment 16648778 Matt M. said:
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for Jones to get year 7.


This is my worry. The single best thing for the Giants would be for Eluemunor to do a good job at LT and either Ezeudu or Neal to step up at RT and Jones to continue doing what he does, which is suck.
Giants should sell  
DavidinBMNY : 6:58 pm : link
Smart teams are selling.

They are going nowhere above mediocre at best. Sell now.
I would seriously consider Neal to fill in  
Matt M. : 6:59 pm : link
Ezeudu was meh to bad at LT last year. Unless Bricillo is really confident he's improved, why give him a crack? Neal had his success as a LT after t er all
Dabol  
Giants4me : 7:03 pm : link
isn't getting fired. I suspect he has a free pass this year
due to the qb situation. He wanted a QB in the last draft.
The price was to high for the front office.

He also is playing Jones,,,,,which makes Mara happy.

Schoel is up down but I like the last draft.
The roster is better....held back by....you guessed it.
Matt M.  
If this is used as an excuse to bring back Jones next season, I'm out. I'm not even kidding. I'll watch the NFL, but not one second of the Giants. If the Giants are idiotic enough to bring back Jones in '25 as the unquestioned starter/a Lock-DeVito like backups, this organization isn't serious about winning & not one worth watching one second of football.
 
christian : 7:05 pm : link
The Giants drafted two offensive lineman in the top 70 three years ago and they are both healthy.

Both of them need to be ready when called upon. Ezeudu was the left tackle in pre season, no?
RE: Matt M.  
Mike from SI : 7:06 pm : link
In comment 16648788 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If this is used as an excuse to bring back Jones next season, I'm out. I'm not even kidding. I'll watch the NFL, but not one second of the Giants. If the Giants are idiotic enough to bring back Jones in '25 as the unquestioned starter/a Lock-DeVito like backups, this organization isn't serious about winning & not one worth watching one second of football.


At some point it becomes insulting to the fans' intelligence. (I mean, it already is, but it just gets worse.)
RE: ...  
bw in dc : 7:06 pm : link
In comment 16648765 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Bold prediction for the pod: Eric says-considering Thomas' injury-we have no choice but to run it back with Jones in 2025 because it wouldn't be fair to poor Daniel to not have Andrew @ LT. :-)


You joke, but you know just as well as me that we can't rule out another excuse to bring back Jones for a seventh tryout.

I have a feeling Shamrocks, Stroud, et al are heading out to buy champagne right now.


Ezeudu isn't a OT  
Toth029 : 7:08 pm : link
So it's frustrating to see them continue that charade.

I'd play Eluemunor at LT and Neal at RT. Very interested in when they pull the Daniel Jones plug with the injury guarantee in their forefront. They absolutely cannot risk that. Play DeVito, Lock doesn't really solve anything. At least with Cutlets he could serve as a bridge next summer.
Oh boy…  
IchabodGiant : 7:09 pm : link
Another piece of ammo for the DJFC to lobby hard for year #7
Mike from SI.  
We're way past insulting to our intelligence. We're in the 'Fuck what the facts say, that Jones is a bad QB. Fuck the fans, who are sick of losing. Fuck all of that...stop bitching & enjoy your medium Pepsi.'
bw in dc  
No doubt. This is all they need to justify bringing Jones back in '25. 'Thomas went down 6 games into the season! It'd be unfair to judge Daniel without him @ LT!'

I seriously can already hear it. The sad thing is Mara probably feels the same.
RE: Mike from SI.  
Mike from SI : 7:19 pm : link
In comment 16648798 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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We're way past insulting to our intelligence. We're in the 'Fuck what the facts say, that Jones is a bad QB. Fuck the fans, who are sick of losing. Fuck all of that...stop bitching & enjoy your medium Pepsi.'


Yeah I know we already got that earlier this year from Giants State Media, but I was hoping that THIS would be the year they finally give up on the charade. I myself am unsure how I could bear it if they keep it up.
Actually, Jones goose was  
section125 : 7:21 pm : link
cooked already. I think Schoen and Daboll saw what they needed to see with a good line and good WRs...he still is unable to run a high powered offense.
Shit, he could have been medium powered and would have beaten Dallas and Cincy.
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Optimus-NY : 7:21 pm : link
If there was any doubt  
Anakim : 7:21 pm : link
Season over. It's time to start selling and accruing draft picks.


At least we'll have the rest of the season to see what Evan Neal is worth and if we can rely on him moving forward.
RE: ...  
Anakim : 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16648714 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).

The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.


Wait, why? Why would Ezeudu get the first crack?
RE: Decent chance  
81_Great_Dane : 7:24 pm : link
In comment 16648684 Jerry in_DC said:
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that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
Nope.
RE: Put Neal at LT  
Blue21 : 7:27 pm : link
In comment 16648687 eric2425ny said:
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It’s his natural position anyway. I honestly feel half the issue with him is they assumed he could just adapt to RT in the NFL and he hasn’t been able to do that. It’s a totally different position.

Watch him play LT and look great.
Was thinking this same thing. Possible a better LT than a RT
Get Neal reps at LT  
Chris684 : 7:35 pm : link
And get him out there. It’s been a few years….ok….oh well.

At least he’s played there and played well, unlike Ezeudu before last year when he got Jonese head almost taken off by Van Ginkle.
If there is any possible silver lining in this  
Chris684 : 7:37 pm : link
It would be that Neal bounces back on the left side. Even if his future isn’t here maybe they can flip him but at least they might be able to salvage something out of it.
This team is cursed.  
mittenedman : 7:37 pm : link
They finally get the OL playing well again.....and Thomas goes down for the season in week 6. Unreal. Nothing is allowed to work.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16648812 Anakim said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).

The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.



Wait, why? Why would Ezeudu get the first crack?


Because Neal hasn't taken a snap at LT in years. You either play Ezeudu or Elumunor at LT.
RE: Matt M.  
Chris684 : 7:39 pm : link
In comment 16648788 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If this is used as an excuse to bring back Jones next season, I'm out. I'm not even kidding. I'll watch the NFL, but not one second of the Giants. If the Giants are idiotic enough to bring back Jones in '25 as the unquestioned starter/a Lock-DeVito like backups, this organization isn't serious about winning & not one worth watching one second of football.


You’re a year late buddy.
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Start Eluemunor @ LT. Neal @ RT.

Am I missing something?

Sink or swim time for Evan. I still he'd be best suited @ guard, but here we are.
RE: This team is cursed.  
Mike from SI : 7:39 pm : link
In comment 16648833 mittenedman said:
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They finally get the OL playing well again.....and Thomas goes down for the season in week 6. Unreal. Nothing is allowed to work.


This team wasn't going anywhere with or without Andrew Thomas.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Chris684 : 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16648834 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Assuming Thomas misses extended time, the Giants need to move Jermaine Eluemunor to LT. Josh Ezeudu and Evan Neal would be the options at RT. I’d expect Ezeudu to get the first crack at RT (or LT if they keep Eluemunor at RT).

The Giants had all five OL play 100% of the snaps in the first six games. A major shakeup coming.



Wait, why? Why would Ezeudu get the first crack?



Because Neal hasn't taken a snap at LT in years. You either play Ezeudu or Elumunor at LT.


Eric, maybe next week, sure. But before long it would be wise to see what Neal can do there.
RE: RE: Put Neal at LT  
JoeSchoens11 : 7:40 pm : link
In comment 16648819 Blue21 said:
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It’s his natural position anyway. I honestly feel half the issue with him is they assumed he could just adapt to RT in the NFL and he hasn’t been able to do that. It’s a totally different position.

Watch him play LT and look great.

Was thinking this same thing. Possible a better LT than a RT
He played a year at G, a year at RT and a year at LT in college and the last 2 years exclusively at RT. We can hope he’s a natural LT but he certainly hasn’t played there very much.
RE: ...  
In comment 16648838 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Start Eluemunor @ LT. Neal @ RT.

Am I missing something?

Sink or swim time for Evan. I still he'd be best suited @ guard, but here we are.


You try to make as few changes as possible.

Moving Eleumenor doesn't fix anything if Neal still sucks. You're just playing whack-a-mole. Ezeudu likely isn't good either, but the situation is what it is.
Chris  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7:45 pm : link
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.

I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 7:47 pm : link

Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
RE: Chris  
Chris684 : 7:51 pm : link
In comment 16648849 Eric from BBI said:
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.

I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.


The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.

How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.

Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
RE: RE: Chris  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7:54 pm : link
In comment 16648854 Chris684 said:
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.

I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.



The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.

How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.

Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.


Diehl prepared for the switch.

I'm not saying it is impossible that Neal doesn't play there eventually, but I wouldn't count on it. At least not for a while.
RE: RE: Chris  
In comment 16648854 Chris684 said:
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.

I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.



The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.

How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.

Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.


It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
Andrew Thomas is another guy who has trouble staying on the field  
Essex : 7:54 pm : link
he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
RE: ...  
gridirony : 7:59 pm : link
In comment 16648809 Optimus-NY said:
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THIS!

Fans need to find a hacker who can put this onto the video screens.
RE: RE: RE: Chris  
Chris684 : 8:01 pm : link
In comment 16648861 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.

I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.



The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.

How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.

Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.



It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.


So then what you’re saying, and I’m not sure if you agree with this or not, is that the Giants spent a top 10 draft pick on a guy to play RT, except to date he hasn’t played RT well at all and he ultimately lost that spot, and now we not only refuse to play him at guard, but we also can’t try him out at the LT spot now vacated by our injured All Pro…because we don’t “think” he can do it? It’s no wonder we suck. Where is the sense of urgency? If Neal doesn’t get back in the field soon it’s all over and the draft pick is flushed.
 
christian : 8:03 pm : link
Typically the less risky decision requires the fewest position changes, so my guess is they go Ezeudu at LT.
Nah…  
Wiggy : 8:16 pm : link
Teams’s not cursed…
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