Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
Diehl prepared for the switch.
I'm not saying it is impossible that Neal doesn't play there eventually, but I wouldn't count on it. At least not for a while.
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
Andrew Thomas is another guy who has trouble staying on the field
I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
So then what you’re saying, and I’m not sure if you agree with this or not, is that the Giants spent a top 10 draft pick on a guy to play RT, except to date he hasn’t played RT well at all and he ultimately lost that spot, and now we not only refuse to play him at guard, but we also can’t try him out at the LT spot now vacated by our injured All Pro…because we don’t “think” he can do it? It’s no wonder we suck. Where is the sense of urgency? If Neal doesn’t get back in the field soon it’s all over and the draft pick is flushed.
he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No. This team has been so void of any talent that he looked very good, definitely not great. The issue is they have a 24 year old tackle with chronic foot injuries.
I'm not going to play Dr. Internet and draw connections. But it's eerily prescient Thomas admitted he took the money early in part because of his injury history.
If Neal doesn't see the field now, he'll be gone next year,
Ezeudu was meh to bad at LT last year. Unless Bricillo is really confident he's improved, why give him a crack? Neal had his success as a LT after t er all
There is a possibility that Neal may be more comfortable at LT. I think it would be a good idea to give him reps in practice if I were Daboll.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
Given his draft status, that's disheartening to read. I feel like Bricillo could make something of him at Guard if given an opportunity. Probably see it on his next team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Andrew Thomas is another guy who has trouble staying on the field
he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No.
Don't choose to be stupid.
Thomas is hurt a lot and it effects his play - I'm not about to call him great.
I'd call him really good when healthy.
Of course he’s not great. Only idiots would think so, and this forum is full of idiots. He’s good - end of story. The problem is the garbage behind him. They are so pitiful, which makes him look “great.”
has been having foot problems since 2022.
This one just puts the issue out front, even if not related to previous problems.
I read either on BBI or another Giants site, someone suggested, even before AT injury:
The ‘25 draft:
QB in the first round, OT in the second.
that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
This team was struggling to win with AT. I know you don't believe 3 years is a long enough time to make a decision, but the NFL doesn't work that way. If the wins don't materialize over the last 11 games people are getting fired
RE: Andrew Thomas is another guy who has trouble staying on the field
the season starts, there is no time for experimenting. The starters get the reps. The back-ups are on the scout team. You guys who say "play Neal at guard" or "play Neal at left tackle" need to understand this point.
that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
This team was struggling to win with AT. I know you don't believe 3 years is a long enough time to make a decision, but the NFL doesn't work that way. If the wins don't materialize over the last 11 games people are getting fired
I doubt it. Mara knows what blowing up the org again does.
But, given DJs play, and ATs injury under the guise of protecting DJ, throw Lock / Cutlets out there as sacrificial lambs.
No one really cares if they are hurt, it protects from the DJ injury clause kicking in, they end up in the top 3-5 draft picks.
That’s a bunch of winning, based on some key injuries.
Firing the last 3 bozos was the right answer. Mara has exhibited no hesitation in firing under performing coaches. And none of those firings have been a mistake.
if he can't play LT? Yeah, he hasn't been there in a game, but he should have been prepped for both sides this season.
Or is Neal on "extended scholarship" now??
He's not the swing tackle. We have two back-up tackles. From the moment the season started, Ezeudu has been listed as the back-up LT.
Eric, you HAVE to question a coaching staff that has Ezeudu as the first choice backup at either tackle spot. It's obvious to anyone watching his play that he can't handle either spot. DJ won't survive if he's the LT.
If Neal is healthy, he should be in consideration for LT. He's played the position before (in College). If a First Round Tackle is behind THREE people at his position (the starter and two tackles) after three years, why are the Giants carrying him??
He's played the position very well in college. If he's healthy
what have they got to lose? At this point with the injuries at key positions if he really sucks the Giants will get the QB they need in next years draft while almost losing out and if he returns to his college ways they strike gold on the OL
anyone who has eyes already knew Jones isn’t the answer.
So they wasted the chance to have Devito or even Lock behind a good offensive line. Now those players are at a disadvantage if we are trying to evaluate them.
Giants make stupid decision, after stupid decision. Next up Jones gets injured. Watch.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
Diehl prepared for the switch.
I'm not saying it is impossible that Neal doesn't play there eventually, but I wouldn't count on it. At least not for a while.
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
Fans need to find a hacker who can put this onto the video screens.
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I'm telling you how this is going to go down. The reporters too.
I'd be shocked if they play him at LT. If you really want to mess with his head, I guess that's a plan.
The concern with Neal should be less about his head and more about finding ways to salvage a top 10 draft pick. I’m sure Neal’s attitude would be exactly that, otherwise we drafted the wrong guy.
How does a David Diehl, late round draft pick out of Illinois make a career out of playing 4 positions on the line on a whim as needed.
Enough with this shit. If Neal’s head can’t handle getting ramped up and playing LT over the next 3 weeks then he is truly a bust.
It's pretty obvious at this point that at least part of the issue with neal *is* his head. He has every physical tool needed to have success. He's not the first offensive linemen without dancer's feet.
So then what you’re saying, and I’m not sure if you agree with this or not, is that the Giants spent a top 10 draft pick on a guy to play RT, except to date he hasn’t played RT well at all and he ultimately lost that spot, and now we not only refuse to play him at guard, but we also can’t try him out at the LT spot now vacated by our injured All Pro…because we don’t “think” he can do it? It’s no wonder we suck. Where is the sense of urgency? If Neal doesn’t get back in the field soon it’s all over and the draft pick is flushed.
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No. This team has been so void of any talent that he looked very good, definitely not great. The issue is they have a 24 year old tackle with chronic foot injuries.
I know JE has struggled so far, but he's young. If he's fully healthy, I think he could surprise at LT.
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he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No.
Don't choose to be stupid.
There is a possibility that Neal may be more comfortable at LT. I think it would be a good idea to give him reps in practice if I were Daboll.
Or is Neal on "extended scholarship" now??
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he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No.
Don't choose to be stupid.
Thomas is hurt a lot and it effects his play - I'm not about to call him great.
I'd call him really good when healthy.
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
To be clear, it’s just my belief that Ezeudu is ahead of Neal on the depth chart. Daboll and Bricillo haven’t answered when asked. Neal missed so much time that he was behind Ezeudu when he returned during camp. We’ll find out if Neal made up ground in-season. I’m skeptical
Given his draft status, that's disheartening to read. I feel like Bricillo could make something of him at Guard if given an opportunity. Probably see it on his next team.
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he is great, but he has had his share of injuries. Shame
Let’s be honest - has he really shown greatness when on the field? No.
Don't choose to be stupid.
Thomas is hurt a lot and it effects his play - I'm not about to call him great.
I'd call him really good when healthy.
Of course he’s not great. Only idiots would think so, and this forum is full of idiots. He’s good - end of story. The problem is the garbage behind him. They are so pitiful, which makes him look “great.”
This one just puts the issue out front, even if not related to previous problems.
I read either on BBI or another Giants site, someone suggested, even before AT injury:
The ‘25 draft:
QB in the first round, OT in the second.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
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that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
This team was struggling to win with AT. I know you don't believe 3 years is a long enough time to make a decision, but the NFL doesn't work that way. If the wins don't materialize over the last 11 games people are getting fired
Most OT's are always hurt and miss time that's because.......(spoiler alert) a very physical position to play and you never let anything heal.
Or is Neal on "extended scholarship" now??
He's not the swing tackle. We have two back-up tackles. From the moment the season started, Ezeudu has been listed as the back-up LT.
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that this injury costs Daboll, and possibly Schoen their jobs.
lol what? how tf do you come up with this premonition lol
This team was struggling to win with AT. I know you don't believe 3 years is a long enough time to make a decision, but the NFL doesn't work that way. If the wins don't materialize over the last 11 games people are getting fired
I doubt it. Mara knows what blowing up the org again does.
Fans don't get it but he does.
No one really cares if they are hurt, it protects from the DJ injury clause kicking in, they end up in the top 3-5 draft picks.
That’s a bunch of winning, based on some key injuries.
Because that has helped immensely. SMDH
Neal if he stays healthy will get starts eventually, LT/RT/RG wherever they want.
no way ezedu will perform and stay healthy over 11 more games. roten will be benched.
theres plenty of opportunity for many players like neal/ezedeu and even Kubas imo to get snaps soon.
this is where we will see what carmen B is made up....
schoen needs to get active in the deadline pick up some 5ths and 7ths for a guy like slayton.
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if he can't play LT? Yeah, he hasn't been there in a game, but he should have been prepped for both sides this season.
Or is Neal on "extended scholarship" now??
He's not the swing tackle. We have two back-up tackles. From the moment the season started, Ezeudu has been listed as the back-up LT.
Eric, you HAVE to question a coaching staff that has Ezeudu as the first choice backup at either tackle spot. It's obvious to anyone watching his play that he can't handle either spot. DJ won't survive if he's the LT.
If Neal is healthy, he should be in consideration for LT. He's played the position before (in College). If a First Round Tackle is behind THREE people at his position (the starter and two tackles) after three years, why are the Giants carrying him??
what have they got to lose? At this point with the injuries at key positions if he really sucks the Giants will get the QB they need in next years draft while almost losing out and if he returns to his college ways they strike gold on the OL
So they wasted the chance to have Devito or even Lock behind a good offensive line. Now those players are at a disadvantage if we are trying to evaluate them.
Giants make stupid decision, after stupid decision. Next up Jones gets injured. Watch.