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Bengals vs Giants Game Review – Daniel Jones I’M Done With You Recap! John and Eric look back at the Giants pathetic loss to the Bengals and more importantly look Daniel Jones and his play. They go over why it was worse than it seems and what the Giants SHOULD do with Jones and the quarterback position in general.
What are the three big things the Giants SHOULD do and we talk about the potential loss of Andrew Thomas (which has since been confirmed).
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That sweatshirt may be older than my kids (and they are out of the house). I have no idea.
Eric, come on man. When speaking about this game, drink alcohol my friend.
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Ha, I missed that too. Lol
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I didn't remember calling Daniel a little bitch.
Ha, I missed that too. Lol
Mis-information. He is a big b.....
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I didn't remember calling Daniel a little bitch.
Ha, I missed that too. Lol
Regarding your comment about passing up the extra point attempt at 29-20 - there is a reason for that - a blocked kick return (which just happened to the Seahawks) makes it 29-22 with Seattle getting the ball. That being said, I think it is better not to worry about it and try to go up by 10.
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I didn't remember calling Daniel a little bitch.
Ha, I missed that too. Lol
Regarding your comment about passing up the extra point attempt at 29-20 - there is a reason for that - a blocked kick return (which just happened to the Seahawks) makes it 29-22 with Seattle getting the ball. That being said, I think it is better not to worry about it and try to go up by 10.
Yeah, I know the "mathematics " but that weird 30 point barrier to me and being up 10 would have meant more.
Worried about a blocked extra point is pretty "scared ball" to me..
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Where did you get that sweatshirt?
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That sweatshirt may be older than my kids (and they are out of the house). I have no idea.
Gotcha, my kids wear my old Giants stuff now too.
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In comment 16648910 Eric from BBI said:
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I didn't remember calling Daniel a little bitch.
Ha, I missed that too. Lol
Regarding your comment about passing up the extra point attempt at 29-20 - there is a reason for that - a blocked kick return (which just happened to the Seahawks) makes it 29-22 with Seattle getting the ball. That being said, I think it is better not to worry about it and try to go up by 10.
Yeah, I know the "mathematics " but that weird 30 point barrier to me and being up 10 would have meant more.
Worried about a blocked extra point is pretty "scared ball" to me..
Eh. It's smart. You're then up 9 and SEA cannot have any chances to score twice given that amount of time left.
Thanks. Yeah, it's time to just say what can be. Jones does nothing for this team period. I am going to post all over X, Facebook and send directly to the Giants- I want to interview John Mara!
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JVM, I feel exactly the same as you with DeVito. Get him in there and see what he can do. This season is over, time to see if DeVito is at least a nice backup to have for the future. Who knows, guy could come in with a better line than last year and Nabers and play lights out.
Thanks. Yeah, it's time to just say what can be. Jones does nothing for this team period. I am going to post all over X, Facebook and send directly to the Giants- I want to interview John Mara!
Mara can show us his two Super Bowl rings.
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JVM, I feel exactly the same as you with DeVito. Get him in there and see what he can do. This season is over, time to see if DeVito is at least a nice backup to have for the future. Who knows, guy could come in with a better line than last year and Nabers and play lights out.
Thanks. Yeah, it's time to just say what can be. Jones does nothing for this team period. I am going to post all over X, Facebook and send directly to the Giants- I want to interview John Mara!
Be careful, I hear he throws a mean office chair
As for this episode, I agree 100% with you guys. I think the fact that DeVito makes the most sense says a lot about our off season. Lock made no sense. He had no place in our future, he gives them no chance to win if needed. He was a safe choice that offers no competition whatsoever for Jones, regardless of how Jones is playing. At least with Taylor, we would have a shot to win a few games.
So, I agree to DeVito. He's also not an answer for the future as a starter. But, he still has a shot to stick as a cheap backup or #3. More importantly, as you said, at the very least, with a little time, he's going to make throws downfield and add some energy.
That right there is the state of things. Jones being bad at his job is not the story this year. The story is Schoen and Daboll being bad at their jobs.
To answer John's question about which quarterback we want to see start, my answer is Jones. It's what these people deserve, and it's the most likely path to a 4-13 humiliation and losing the locker room.
If Schoen had the stones to tell Mara that much better offensive players can't make Jones a franchise quarterback .We are in qb hell and maybe next years draft will get us that franchise qb that we need and covet but don't hold your breath. Frustration and despair seems to be driving us crazy because we can't get the quarterback back position right. I fear Schoen/Daboll are not the men that can solve our qb dilemma.
You move to Devito, trade Slayton and Ojulari and move towards 2025.
"Therapy". I reply, "Therapy. Eric makes me feel like I am not alone out there wandering the dark, cold nights of Giants football. It is a shared pain. It is a shared grief."
"OK." She wanders off shaking her head slightly.
We know. We know.
"Therapy". I reply, "Therapy. Eric makes me feel like I am not alone out there wandering the dark, cold nights of Giants football. It is a shared pain. It is a shared grief."
"OK." She wanders off shaking her head slightly.
We know. We know.
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Your insult actually gets to the heart of the central contradiction of Jones: despite his physical size and his reputation for being tough, there's something very wimpy about the way he plays. It's not just the lack of touchdowns and impact at home; even in the away games, he seems to only put up just enough points to eeek out a win. He rarely buries teams or hits a kill shot to make it a 2 or 3 score game in the 4th quarter.
That right there is the state of things. Jones being bad at his job is not the story this year. The story is Schoen and Daboll being bad at their jobs.
To answer John's question about which quarterback we want to see start, my answer is Jones. It's what these people deserve, and it's the most likely path to a 4-13 humiliation and losing the locker room.
Joe Schoen & Brian Daboll know exactly what they have in Daniel Jones. This is the Daniel Jones transition year for the Giants whether or not fans approve. Next year starts a new QB cycle for this franchise. It’s possible that Jones may even be the starter at the beginning of 2025, but that would only be because his replacement needs a little time to view things from the sideline before being thrown into the fire.
DJ is the problem here though. He just doesn't challenge anyone in the vertical game, and every D coordinator in the league knows it. Daboll knows it too, you can see it in his interviews.
If Schoen had the stones to tell Mara that much better offensive players can't make Jones a franchise quarterback .We are in qb hell and maybe next years draft will get us that franchise qb that we need and covet but don't hold your breath. Frustration and despair seems to be driving us crazy because we can't get the quarterback back position right. I fear Schoen/Daboll are not the men that can solve our qb dilemma.
In reality, I think there's very little vitriol specifically directed towards Daniel Jones. People are justifiably sick of watching him play QB for the New York Giants, and of the people who inexplicably defend his poor play and puff out their chests every time he has one of his rare strong performances.
It's year six of this shit, and it's exhausting. I have no ill will towards Daniel Jones, I just look forward to the day he's not the QB for this team. I cannot fucking wait.
I do have complete contempt for John Mara. He’s at the epicenter of this mess.
If Schoen had the stones to tell Mara that much better offensive players can't make Jones a franchise quarterback .We are in qb hell and maybe next years draft will get us that franchise qb that we need and covet but don't hold your breath. Frustration and despair seems to be driving us crazy because we can't get the quarterback back position right. I fear Schoen/Daboll are not the men that can solve our qb dilemma.
Ok.
Do you have a boss at your job? One whose family started the company 100 years ago? One so pigheaded and sensitive to criticism that he only accepts credit for the company's success?
I have a feeling you would be replaced quickly after you told them they're wrong.
But for a few lucky breaks in his young football life, Jones would probably have graduated with an Economics degree from Princeton and would currently be one the most popular people at Merrill Lynch's wealth management office in Charlotte.
We know what he is, and he's playing to his best efforts (its what Daboll said). Unless they are tanking, then we wont know that strategy. But Jones needs a change of scenery at this point.
Its hard to be mad at him anymore. Its just bad and getting worse for the franchise. Leadership looks weak.
We know what he is, and he's playing to his best efforts (its what Daboll said). Unless they are tanking, then we wont know that strategy. But Jones needs a change of scenery at this point.
Its hard to be mad at him anymore. Its just bad and getting worse for the franchise. Leadership looks weak.
If you watched the video, it's not anger. As I repeatedly said, the situation just sucks the life out of you. Does anyone actually REALLY look forward to Giants games anymore? Or do you watch out of a morbid sense of impending doom?
The team should be putting their chips in the middle, yes, but not to save the season --to save the franchise. We should be sellers at the trade deadline and we should getting young guys out there. Andre Thomas is out --so be it. Get Neal the hell in there and figure his shit out. If it's ugly, it's ugly. Our wins don't come on the score card, they come in the individual performance of young players on this roster. This is a roster we can win with, we just need a guy behind center that can do what starting caliber NFL QBs do.
We know what he is, and he's playing to his best efforts (its what Daboll said). Unless they are tanking, then we wont know that strategy. But Jones needs a change of scenery at this point.
Its hard to be mad at him anymore. It's just bad and getting worse for the franchise. Leadership looks weak.
We've had 3 different GMs in the past decade.
We've had 5 different PCs in the past decade.
Who's to blame?
I can't see it any other way.
John Mara.
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on Jones. He should sit, no doubt. But at this point....Coach has to bench him. If he can't do that, then he needs to go. I doubt it is Shoen making that call. If its ownership, then not much we can do....but its no longer Jones' "fault" at this point.
We know what he is, and he's playing to his best efforts (its what Daboll said). Unless they are tanking, then we wont know that strategy. But Jones needs a change of scenery at this point.
Its hard to be mad at him anymore. It's just bad and getting worse for the franchise. Leadership looks weak.
We've had 3 different GMs in the past decade.
We've had 5 different PCs in the past decade.
Who's to blame?
I can't see it any other way.
John Mara.
PCs should be HCs.
The team should be putting their chips in the middle, yes, but not to save the season --to save the franchise. We should be sellers at the trade deadline and we should getting young guys out there. Andre Thomas is out --so be it. Get Neal the hell in there and figure his shit out. If it's ugly, it's ugly. Our wins don't come on the score card, they come in the individual performance of young players on this roster. This is a roster we can win with, we just need a guy behind center that can do what starting caliber NFL QBs do.
I think I addressed that in my point- it isn't about the better QB or even about wins (though we might win games and if we did it proves the system works just not Jones), but it is about believing that this organization is looking at being better and different, not tired and accepting..
If I saw him on the street, I would shake his hand. It doesn't mean I don't want a different, better quarterback running our team.
Eric lays it out perfectly. After many night games, you go to bed feeling the life has been sucked out of you and then you remember when you wake up.
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guy. He should have picked a different profession, one where you don't need to make fast decisions. He would be a great veterinarian or pharmacist, I think that was his calling.
But for a few lucky breaks in his young football life, Jones would probably have graduated with an Economics degree from Princeton and would currently be one the most popular people at Merrill Lynch's wealth management office in Charlotte.
and he'd be much happier probably, at least there wouldn't be people all over the internet blasting him
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on Jones. He should sit, no doubt. But at this point....Coach has to bench him. If he can't do that, then he needs to go. I doubt it is Shoen making that call. If its ownership, then not much we can do....but its no longer Jones' "fault" at this point.
We know what he is, and he's playing to his best efforts (its what Daboll said). Unless they are tanking, then we wont know that strategy. But Jones needs a change of scenery at this point.
Its hard to be mad at him anymore. It's just bad and getting worse for the franchise. Leadership looks weak.
We've had 3 different GMs in the past decade.
We've had 5 different PCs in the past decade.
Who's to blame?
I can't see it any other way.
John Mara.
For me, it is more frustration with DJ that he can't execute some pretty basic QB fundamentals. My anger is directed to the front office of the Giants for creating this disfunctional mess and allowing it to continue for so long. That start with John Mara, but is not limited to Mara. The Giants Way now stands for incompetence.
I do have complete contempt for John Mara. He’s at the epicenter of this mess.
This is where I'm at. I'm sure Jones is counting the days to leave the NYC metro area forever.
The fools that paid him can go to hell. And that very much includes Schoen and Daboll, who either supported paying him or were available of convincing Mara that it was stupidity. Either way, they're part of the problem.
I want to see Jones on a bus out of town, permanently. Whatever needs to happen to move that along, do it.
I want to see Jones on a bus out of town, permanently. Whatever needs to happen to move that along, do it.
This ^.
Daniel Jones gives this team the best chance to lose games. The absolute last thing we need is meaningless wins from talentless backups who inject energy into this team. Focus instead on achieving the benefits of hitting rock bottom this year and starting over agin in 2025. This disastrous season was a fait accompli the day that Joe Schoen committed to that ignorant contract with DJ. It was the most fatal act of GM incompetence I have ever seen in any sport. He and DJ can share that bus ride together as far as I am concerned...