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Hyatt is awful

Now Mike in MD : 10/16/2024 2:22 pm
check out Skinner's review at the 24:34 mark. An RPO is called with Hyatt the primary target on a slant. Not only does he getting totally stifled with a pretty marginal jam but he just doesn't even try to fight to get into his route.

Terrible terrible lack of effort.

Remember this play whenever people complaint why Hyatt isn't getting targeted.
Hyatt Stinks - ( New Window )
that shit's on purpose  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/16/2024 2:28 pm : link
he doesn't want to play for the Giants....WTF, man?
He’s a bust  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/16/2024 2:32 pm : link
IDGAF if I catch heat for that statement. I’ve already detailed why I believe this to be so. He’s Softer than bird shit.
RE: He’s a bust  
Now Mike in MD : 10/16/2024 2:34 pm : link
In comment 16649540 JoeyBigBlue said:
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IDGAF if I catch heat for that statement. I’ve already detailed why I believe this to be so. He’s Softer than bird shit.


He is definitely very soft.
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BrettNYG10 : 10/16/2024 2:35 pm : link
I think expectations were too high for a third round raw WR. The base case was that he was going to bust.

I liked the pick and am willing to give him more rope.
Wouldn't  
Professor Falken : 10/16/2024 2:36 pm : link
it make sense to put him in motion more often?
He was developing last year  
I Love Clams Casino : 10/16/2024 2:36 pm : link
and then Giants draft Nabers....and now THIS....is he just a big baby?
I don't know whether he's developing  
81_Great_Dane : 10/16/2024 2:38 pm : link
but he's been with the Giants for a while and hasn't progressed enough to make much of a contribution.

If he's not developing to the Giants' satisfaction, there are teams that would probably take him on: KC, LV and Cleveland come to mind. But the Browns drafted his Tennessee teammate and that guy hasn't developed much, either.

I think he's a less promising prospect now than when he was drafted. He's probably not going to be back next season unless he steps things up.
RE: He was developing last year  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/16/2024 2:45 pm : link
In comment 16649551 I Love Clams Casino said:
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and then Giants draft Nabers....and now THIS....is he just a big baby?


Tapes out on him. Teams see that he can’t beat the press and they don’t let him get off the line.
He  
SoZKillA : 10/16/2024 3:02 pm : link
is very fast with a QB who cant throw the ball past 5 yards.

Last year we tried him on drags and he always ran 1 yard short of the stick (rookie, can be corrected)

He mad a piss poor attempt in the preseason game on the pass up the sideline.

He just isn't a good fit for this offense.
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ryanmkeane : 10/16/2024 3:11 pm : link
His response to the Dallas coach at the pro day was noteworthy at the time because everyone thought it made the coach look bad and Hyatt look good.
He  
AcidTest : 10/16/2024 3:16 pm : link
usually can't get off the LOS because he doesn't have enough upper body strength to be able to fight off defenders who as a consequence can easily reroute or stymie him. He would need swivel hips like Cruz to compensate, and Cruz also had a lot more upper body strength than Hyatt.

He basically needs a free release to get off the LOS, which requires a specific scheme or play designed to do that. And even then, he can only run fly patterns or quick slants, where his lack of upper body strength will also hinder his ability to make contested catches.

Hyatt has a ton of speed and tracks and high points the ball beautifully, but those attributes are at least so far outweighed by his lack of upper body strength and limited route running skills. It takes a lot more than speed and good hands to be a successful NFL WR.

I wouldn't trade him, and would be surprised if the Giants do so. His contributions by now should be a lot greater, but he's only in his second year, and we'd likely not get much in return. But with Nabers out, I'd like to see more of Hodgins or even BFW, at least when Nabers, Slayton, or Robinson or out.
Calling that a jam is ridiculous,  
Section331 : 10/16/2024 3:19 pm : link
the DB barely touches him, just gets in his way, and Hyatt gives up on the route. I get that he’s a project, but if he can’t put in more effort than that, he’s our new Kadarius Toney.
I have been saying this for a while about Hyatt..  
DefenseWins : 10/16/2024 3:24 pm : link
he is a fast guy but is not an NFL WR. In fact, his draft reviews were also calling out his route running.

He has no idea how to play the position.
He rounds out his routes
He loses all battles with the defender
He does not come back to the ball
He does not fight for the ball
He does not have good hands
He does not know how to draw a penalty

He could be out of football in a couple of years. If he was an undrafted free agent, he may not have made it through training camp.
So Far  
Bernie : 10/16/2024 3:33 pm : link
He has checked every box do the down side on all the questions that Sy had on him. And candidly, he can’t even check a box to the positive in the one area of strength that was identified. Such a disappointment.
I remember watching his  
Breeze_94 : 10/16/2024 3:42 pm : link
Tennessee HIGHLIGHTS and not being impressed with one single play.

Every play he was wide open. Never made contested catches. Never made anyone miss. Most of his big plays were the result of blown coverages and empty space. Also seemed to struggle catching the ball cleanly - had a lot of bobbles.

After the pick, I convinced myself that his skills could translate and it was more a lack of opportunity to make contested catches/make guys miss since everything came so easy. Last year, thought he showed some flashes.

But this year it seems every flaw he had at UT has been exacerbated. They will need to invest in a WR2 if Slayton leaves after this year. Hyatt is a negative when he is out there.
So was Toomer  
arniefez : 10/16/2024 3:50 pm : link
So was Corey Webster. Until they weren't. I think it's too early to give up on him. His route running needs work. He struggles to beat physical press corners. But maybe the QB is the biggest problem. Taylor and DeVito figured out a way to get the ball to him. They didn't have Nabers to draw all the attention either.

https://www.nfl.com/videos/jalin-hyatt-hauls-in-devito-s-41-yard-dime-along-the-sideline

https://www.nfl.com/videos/jalin-hyatt-s-leaping-toe-tap-catch-goes-for-29-yard-gain-on-first-drive

https://www.nfl.com/videos/devito-goes-downtown-to-hyatt-again-this-time-for-22-yards

https://www.nfl.com/videos/can-t-miss-play-42-yard-launch-taylor-s-accuracy-is-100-on-deep-pass-to-hyatt

https://www.nfl.com/videos/tyrod-taylor-buys-time-to-locate-jalin-hyatt-along-the-sideline-for-18-yard-conn

https://www.nfl.com/videos/tyrod-taylor-s-33-yard-launch-to-hyatt-flashes-qb-s-deep-ball-accuracy
Every Jalin Hyatt catch from 109-yard game | Week 12 - ( New Window )
Breeze_94  
arniefez : 10/16/2024 3:57 pm : link
Maybe watch this?
Jalin Hyatt Explosive Play Breakdown - ( New Window )
I fixed the OP for you  
arniefez : 10/16/2024 3:57 pm : link
Daniel Jones is awful
arniefez  
Toth029 : 10/16/2024 4:15 pm : link
"Taylor and DeVito figured out a way to get the ball to him"

Do you have substantial evidence to back this up?

The stats in 2023 don't. Especially Tyrod.
This is a lot of angst for a #4 WR who was a 3rd Rd pick  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/16/2024 5:35 pm : link
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RE: Wouldn't  
Blueworm : 10/16/2024 5:41 pm : link
In comment 16649550 Professor Falken said:
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it make sense to put him in motion more often?


Sounds like he needs the CFL solution.

Unlimited movement behind the LOS, so no one jams. CB are all off.
RE: RE: Wouldn't  
PatersonPlank : 10/16/2024 5:51 pm : link
In comment 16649775 Blueworm said:
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In comment 16649550 Professor Falken said:


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it make sense to put him in motion more often?



Sounds like he needs the CFL solution.

Unlimited movement behind the LOS, so no one jams. CB are all off.


That was my recommendation on a different thread. He can't handle press coverage. You can get around out in college and just use your speed, but in the NFL, with NFL caliber players, you have to deal with it.
He's the Matt Peart of WRs  
islander1 : 12:29 pm : link
soft
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