Expectation is normal regular season rotation, which we havnt seen yet..
Does Thibs go with Payne, Deuce, Precious and Sims with Bridges? or does Thibs maybe go with 2 starters on the court at all times?
I dont trust Sims at all so i would lean Bridges and Kat with the second unit
Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.
You also realize their spacing is better now right?
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????
Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.
You also realize their spacing is better now right?
So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????
Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.
You also realize their spacing is better now right?
So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.
Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????
Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.
You also realize their spacing is better now right?
So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.
Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s
I know, I'm just nervous. You wonder if he's getting up there in age and slowing down. IDK. But it's not it's his knees. He barely gets any vertical on his jumpshot.
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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????
Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.
You also realize their spacing is better now right?
So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.
Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s
I know, I'm just nervous. You wonder if he's getting up there in age and slowing down. IDK. But it's not it's his knees. He barely gets any vertical on his jumpshot.
Never does, even when he posts up..
At some point he’s just more impactful off the bench.
I think the Knicks best five will ultimately be jb-deuce-bridges-OG-KAT
Deuce is simply a better 3 and D player than Hart and that’s what the starters need imo.
Payne will play but I’d love a Kolek-Hart-Dadiet-Precious bench
Little things like fjnding the open space to cut when his man goes to cut, crashing the boards because no one is putting a body on him, him pushing the pace off rebounds..
His 3 point shooting will be suspect but you cant just ignore him, you ignore him and you are asking for him to grab offensive boards..
It will be Brunson and KATs job to find him on those cuts..
“I’m lost. I have no idea,” Hart said. “There’s a couple days before we have until Boston. So whether that’s trying to get a rhythm with that starting unit or we give somebody else a look and my role changes and comes off the bench and go with that unit. So just trying to figure out right now I pretty much have no idea. But we’ll see what happens in Boston (in the season opener Tuesday).”
That was Hart after the game. Safe to say he doesn't feel like he's impacting the game with the starters.
He's not even rebounding at a high level. 12 rebounds in total across 4 games and 90 minutes.
It's preseason, moving parts, etc., but it's something to monitor
His best skill is probably his chaotic energy, which feels like a huge lift as the 6th man and less impactful as a starter.
Deuce meanwhile has his 10 3s in 3 preseason games and spaces the floor for Brunson and KAT to work their basically unstoppable two man game.
We'll see what happens but I think the move makes a ton of sense.
My concern is bridges right now. That hitch he has is rough and him talking about trying to fix his jumper is what worries me. He’s looked dreadful and we will see how fans handle him playing poorly if he starts the season as bad as he is currently. Given how we dealt 5 picks. Your gonna have alot of noise about how we should have kept Divo
That being said I’m still happy with the trade and know we need to be patient. But id be lying if I wasn’t a little bit surprised at the shooting from
Him so far.
At the end of the day, we're going to have to get consistent offensive output from guys who haven't shot well in the preseason. Bridges, OG and KAT all need to find their shots. Lots of room for improvement.
I have been encouraged by the Brunson-KAT game. Brunson has found KAT on a couple really nice cuts to the basket so that is promising.
The sky isn't falling, but there's still a lot of work to do to get to where I want the team to go.
At the end of the day, we're going to have to get consistent offensive output from guys who haven't shot well in the preseason. Bridges, OG and KAT all need to find their shots. Lots of room for improvement.
I have been encouraged by the Brunson-KAT game. Brunson has found KAT on a couple really nice cuts to the basket so that is promising.
The sky isn't falling, but there's still a lot of work to do to get to where I want the team to go.
The Brunson/KAT two man game is going to determine about 85% of the Knicks success this year. The remaining 15% will be if someone can figure out how to score against OG and Bridges.
If KAT shoots 40% from 3 on like 8 attempts per game and Brunson does Brunson things, the offense is going to be absurd.
I came here to ask about this...as a Nets fan, he was fine in Brooklyn his 1st year, great actually. In his 2nd year, whatever issues there were, it had nothing to do with his shot technique...no idea why they'd want to mess with it now. And obviously the Knicks coaches are the motivators or supporters of this, just seems like an odd time in his career to be messing with it
“Ever since I got into the league, been trying to fix it back to when I was in college,” Bridges said. “So it’s been seven years of just every day.”
Bridges has an unconventional hitch to his form, a habit he said he picked up after going pro in 2018. However, he clearly altered it again before this season and it was ineffective in preseason.
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What the hell did he do to his shooting form? It looks long, awkward, and he’s shooting terribly. He’s trying to change the release point, and so far it just does not look like a good move, he needs to just stick with what’s been working.
I came here to ask about this...as a Nets fan, he was fine in Brooklyn his 1st year, great actually. In his 2nd year, whatever issues there were, it had nothing to do with his shot technique...no idea why they'd want to mess with it now. And obviously the Knicks coaches are the motivators or supporters of this, just seems like an odd time in his career to be messing with it
He said he has been altering his shot every year since he has gotten to the NBA, has nothing to do with the Knicks
Landry Shamet dislocated his right shoulder and will be re-evaluated at a later date.
— NY_KnicksPR (@NY_KnicksPR) October 18, 2024
Based on the wording here, sounds like the Knicks will take him into the season. Contract isn’t guaranteed until January. https://t.co/eXC56oyp1c
— James L. Edwards III (@JLEdwardsIII) October 18, 2024
Haven't seen update on Precious's apparent hamstring issue. Being down two members of second unit wouldn't be ideal.
Thanks. I see that just happened.
Staying at 12 standard players and waiting for Shamet I'd say amounts to same thing.
Being down Mitch, Shamet and possibly Precious would be a drag on the second unit.
Michael Scotto
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The New York Knicks have waived TJ Warren, Landry Shamet and Chuma Okeke, team says.
With Landry Shamet situation up in air, NYK didn’t have cap space under 2nd apron for T.J. Warren. Warren had support among some NYK coaches & front office to make roster. He is going to join Westchester, SNY has learned, as he’ll likely be in mix to rejoin NYK during season.
Probably the biggest argument is the offensive rebound issue.
He can be helpful!
Can he play D any more?
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BREAKING: Trey Murphy III and the Pelicans have agreed to a four-year, $112 million contract extension, his agents Sean Kennedy and Jeff Schwartz of @excelsm
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Just purchased an apartment in Brooklyn. Doesn't mean a ton when you are worth as much as these guys are but still potentially notable.
Starters
JB
Hart
Bridges
OG
KAT
Bench
McBride
Payne
Kolek
Dadiet
Sims
Hukporti
Jacob Toppin: had injured ankle for pre-season but not on injured list for opener
Knicks have 12 players on standard contracts, including the unavailable Mitch. And three players on non-guaranteed: Hukporti, Toppin and the injured McCullar.
Fred Katz's comment on the situation, in the wake of the injuries to Shamet and Precious:
"I think it might be Dadiet," Katz said of the rotation. "And if you told me a month ago, especially before the [Towns] trade, that Pacome Dadiet was going to be in the Knicks' opening night rotation, I'd be like, what the hell happened here?"
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Fred Katz's comment on the situation, in the wake of the injuries to Shamet and Precious:
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On his "Katz and Shoot" podcast, The Athletic's Fred Katz said he thinks Dadiet could be the next-man-up in the rotation.
"I think it might be Dadiet," Katz said of the rotation. "And if you told me a month ago, especially before the [Towns] trade, that Pacome Dadiet was going to be in the Knicks' opening night rotation, I'd be like, what the hell happened here?"
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I was thinking it might be Dadiet as well. Or else Hukporti or Sims get some minutes at the 5 and KAT some minutes at the 4. But Dadiet in place of Precious may be less of a disruption to the rotation overall.
Something like this sub pattern:
Deuce for Bridges 5 or 6 minute mark.
Sims for KAT a couple minutes later
Dadiet for Hart with a couple of minutes left..
Brunson and OG finish the quarter
Start 2nd with Payne, Deuce, Brisges, KAT and Dadiet or Sims..
Bridges and KAT play entire 2nd..Hart comes in around 8 minute mark for Dadiet or Sims...
Brunson and OG return with 5 or 6 minutes left in the 2nd
I have season tickets and right now I have the Christmas Day game against the Spurs for sale...1,200 each. Some have sold around my section for even more already.
I think he's pretty concretely shaken off the narrative that he's too raw to play though. He was absolutely cooking in the preseason. I'm excited to see what he can do.
It's going to take very little for me to start calling for Big Huk over Sims too.
I think he's pretty concretely shaken off the narrative that he's too raw to play though. He was absolutely cooking in the preseason. I'm excited to see what he can do.
It's going to take very little for me to start calling for Big Huk over Sims too.
Dadiet looks very comfortable and competent. Somewhat like Kolek.
Im with you on Hukporti, but Sims isnt really putting up a fight for his job.