NFT: Knicks final preseason game @Washington 7pm

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That’s gonna take time, but they shouldn’t look this poor on defense. Hart and Bridges are missing assignment after assignment

Showing how Thibs seems to elevate big men’s games . Achiuwa’s game has improved noticeably since coming to NY

In comment 16651530 steve in ky said:

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Showing how Thibs seems to elevate big men’s games . Achiuwa’s game has improved noticeably since coming to NY

Sims is the opposite. I’m not sure Red Auerbach himself could make that guy look like an nba player

In comment 16651532 LW_Giants said:

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In comment 16651530 steve in ky said: Quote: Showing how Thibs seems to elevate big men’s games . Achiuwa’s game has improved noticeably since coming to NY Sims is the opposite. I’m not sure Red Auerbach himself could make that guy look like an nba player

Sims is just not very good. One could still say that he’s even got this much out of him is impressive. Sims very easily could have never seen NBA minutes with any other organization.

still trying to find their three-point shots.

11 deep already and he def won't do that in this season.

Bridges isn't a good three point shooter, but KAT is so his shot should come. I'm way more worried about the defense. Bridges and Hart are missing assignments and Sims is an abject disaster.

Pretty cool.

is getting minutes, could Dadiet be in the rotation already? That would surprise me.

Got NBA League Pass this morning.

Can't wait for Tuesday!

In comment 16651543 Del Shofner said:

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is getting minutes, could Dadiet be in the rotation already? That would surprise me.

I don't think so, Deuce is getting a rest day and Thibs has gone 10 deep, which won't happen in the regular season.

Dadiet may just be an NBA player, and he's only 19!

Gonna take a little time for him to find a comfort zone out there.

In comment 16651548 bceagle05 said:

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Gonna take a little time for him to find a comfort zone out there.

Yea, I think Hart is going to end up coming out of the starting lineup at some point because he's really playing the role/taking the space Bridges should be.

preseason game lol?

KAT looks like he came out of the same womb from Ezekiel Elliott's Ewok mother?

In comment 16651548 bceagle05 said:

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Gonna take a little time for him to find a comfort zone out there.

He and Donte are almost identical career % from three which is largely why Donte was expendable. Donte just had a career year as a Knick and why trading him when they did made a lot of sense.

I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP??????

Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.

In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said:

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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP?????? Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.

I may have been Randles biggest fan that posts here but the reality is that Randle was going to be a free agent after this season, better get value for him now then chance losing him for nothing. Couple that with losing IHart and it was a smart move to make

Brutal.



Well, I hope the Wizards compete for the Playoffs

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may not see him for a couple weeks.

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even after abysmal 3-pt shooting

And I think it'll work out, but there are going to be growing pains.


KAT and Bridges have yet to shown that they can be reliable perimeter shooters. We've seen they can do that on other teams. Hopefully it's just rust.

In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said:

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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP?????? Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.

So you were going to play Randle at the 5? You were going to pay him 45 to 50 million a year..

and no Randle is not better than KAT, literally there is nothing Randle is better than KAT at on the court..

KAT is also a much better fit than zrandle was

In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said:

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I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP?????? Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team.

You also realize their spacing is better now right?

In comment 16651682 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said: Quote: I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP?????? Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team. You also realize their spacing is better now right?

So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.

In comment 16651685 Anakim said:

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In comment 16651682 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said: Quote: I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP?????? Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team. You also realize their spacing is better now right? So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason.

Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s

In comment 16651692 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 16651685 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 16651682 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said: Quote: I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP?????? Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team. You also realize their spacing is better now right? So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason. Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s

I know, I'm just nervous. You wonder if he's getting up there in age and slowing down. IDK. But it's not it's his knees. He barely gets any vertical on his jumpshot.

In comment 16651695 Anakim said:

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In comment 16651692 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 16651685 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 16651682 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 16651566 NYDCBlue said: Quote: I think Randle is slightly better than him, thus the best player in that trade, plus loosing The Big Rangue will be huge for our shooting and spacing. AND WE THREW A FIRST ON TOP?????? Terrible trade. Then again the Knicks have a long history of terrible trades, so this one barely registeres in the history of the team. You also realize their spacing is better now right? So long as KAT hits his threes like he's shown he can do in his career. But he's been awful from 3PT land in preseason. Its preseason, the guy is the best shooting big of all time, he is not all of a sudden not going to be able to shoot 3s I know, I'm just nervous. You wonder if he's getting up there in age and slowing down. IDK. But it's not it's his knees. He barely gets any vertical on his jumpshot.

Never does, even when he posts up..

He’s a better career three point shooter than Dante, he’ll be fine. He just hit traded, had to move and get acclimated to a new team and it’s preseason. It far too soon to be nervous about his shot

With what, 2 points through four games on 5 shots?

At some point he’s just more impactful off the bench.

I think the Knicks best five will ultimately be jb-deuce-bridges-OG-KAT

Deuce is simply a better 3 and D player than Hart and that’s what the starters need imo.

Payne will play but I’d love a Kolek-Hart-Dadiet-Precious bench

he will be the first sub in and he will play 30 minutes a night, but i thjnk we will see the value of Josh Hart when the real bullets start to fly..

Little things like fjnding the open space to cut when his man goes to cut, crashing the boards because no one is putting a body on him, him pushing the pace off rebounds..

His 3 point shooting will be suspect but you cant just ignore him, you ignore him and you are asking for him to grab offensive boards..

It will be Brunson and KATs job to find him on those cuts..

I almost get the impression that now that he has his extension behind him, he’s fine with doing the dirty work that helps the team and not look to score. But we’ve scene where he goes on runs himself, especially on the fast breaks which will happen more in the regular season. He scores when game dictates he needs to. I’m not worried that he’s not looking to shoot a lot during preseason, I actually think it’s a positive if his during the preseason. It’s all about the team with him and now his teammates whose games rely on shooting need that work more.

the Knicks havnt shot well at all and are one of the highest scoring teams in the preseason..

required with this thing. Basically a whole new starting lineup. It is going to take some time for everyone to get comfortable. They will each eventually find their place. Right now Towns, Bridges and Hart all look very uncomfortable and there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, it is to be expected. Everyone should be more worried about the injuries piling up. We are starting the season with three fifths of our second unit injured and they have only played five preseason games. Also, on the positive side, all three of the draft picks look like they will be NBA rotational plays at some point. That is huge considering the cupboard is not as stocked as in the recent past.

In comment 16651938 steve in ky said:

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I almost get the impression that now that he has his extension behind him, he’s fine with doing the dirty work that helps the team and not look to score. But we’ve scene where he goes on runs himself, especially on the fast breaks which will happen more in the regular season. He scores when game dictates he needs to. I’m not worried that he’s not looking to shoot a lot during preseason, I actually think it’s a positive if his during the preseason. It’s all about the team with him and now his teammates whose games rely on shooting need that work more.

“I’m lost. I have no idea,” Hart said. “There’s a couple days before we have until Boston. So whether that’s trying to get a rhythm with that starting unit or we give somebody else a look and my role changes and comes off the bench and go with that unit. So just trying to figure out right now I pretty much have no idea. But we’ll see what happens in Boston (in the season opener Tuesday).”

That was Hart after the game. Safe to say he doesn't feel like he's impacting the game with the starters.

He's not even rebounding at a high level. 12 rebounds in total across 4 games and 90 minutes.

It's preseason, moving parts, etc., but it's something to monitor

Hart wears his emotions on his sleeves and is vocal about it. He’s the least of my worries on this team

Because we’ve seen him in that role. All I’m saying is he’s not an issue and will find his game when it counts whether the situation calls for him to start or come off the bench. Harts not an issue

I don't think he's lost his mojo, he's just the worst player of the five starters. He's the 5th best scorer and probably 3rd best defender.

His best skill is probably his chaotic energy, which feels like a huge lift as the 6th man and less impactful as a starter.

Deuce meanwhile has his 10 3s in 3 preseason games and spaces the floor for Brunson and KAT to work their basically unstoppable two man game.

We'll see what happens but I think the move makes a ton of sense.

I trust Thibbs to push the right buttons

I don't care what sport we're talking about. I would take them with less than a grain of salt. There probably will be an adjustment period to start the season working 2 huge new pieces into the starting lineup in Bridges and KAT. The best news is coming out of camp outside of Mitch which we baked in, we're healthy. Excited to tip it off Boston and hopefully wreck their banner raising.

Strictly because he is just the energizer bunny. He just goes and goes. I’m not looking at him to contribute 15-18 points. Just crash the boards. Play defense and give his normal great effort.

My concern is bridges right now. That hitch he has is rough and him talking about trying to fix his jumper is what worries me. He’s looked dreadful and we will see how fans handle him playing poorly if he starts the season as bad as he is currently. Given how we dealt 5 picks. Your gonna have alot of noise about how we should have kept Divo

That being said I’m still happy with the trade and know we need to be patient. But id be lying if I wasn’t a little bit surprised at the shooting from
Him so far.

and they definitely haven't gelled yet. I wouldn't say I'm concerned, but I thought they'd be further along than this.

At the end of the day, we're going to have to get consistent offensive output from guys who haven't shot well in the preseason. Bridges, OG and KAT all need to find their shots. Lots of room for improvement.

I have been encouraged by the Brunson-KAT game. Brunson has found KAT on a couple really nice cuts to the basket so that is promising.

The sky isn't falling, but there's still a lot of work to do to get to where I want the team to go.

harder for teams to put their center on Deuce and Hart can come off the bench and just cause havoc

/Giants fans...

In comment 16651975 Jan in DC said:

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and they definitely haven't gelled yet. I wouldn't say I'm concerned, but I thought they'd be further along than this. At the end of the day, we're going to have to get consistent offensive output from guys who haven't shot well in the preseason. Bridges, OG and KAT all need to find their shots. Lots of room for improvement. I have been encouraged by the Brunson-KAT game. Brunson has found KAT on a couple really nice cuts to the basket so that is promising. The sky isn't falling, but there's still a lot of work to do to get to where I want the team to go.

The Brunson/KAT two man game is going to determine about 85% of the Knicks success this year. The remaining 15% will be if someone can figure out how to score against OG and Bridges.

If KAT shoots 40% from 3 on like 8 attempts per game and Brunson does Brunson things, the offense is going to be absurd.

What the hell did he do to his shooting form? It looks long, awkward, and he’s shooting terribly. He’s trying to change the release point, and so far it just does not look like a good move, he needs to just stick with what’s been working.