Assuming NYG addresses QB entering 2025, everyone assumes it will be through the draft. But, there are some young, underachieving expensive QBs who could be available.
The two names that come to me are Kyler Murray and Trevor Lawrence. Murray is someone who has underachieved and is expensive. The same thing goes for Lawrence who was viewed as a can't miss QB prospect.
Both the Cardinals and Jaguars could be looking to get out of these contracts. I'm no expert on the cap, but could something like this work?
I made a thread before the draft about how NYG would address QB going forward if they didn't draft a QB this year. There is no easy answer, but I wouldn't rule anything out. A few names I think could be possible:
-Trevor Lawrence (expensive)
-Kyler Murray (expensive)
-Bryce Young
I really like the idea of buying low on Young. Economically, drafting a QB makes the most sense. But, they very well may be forcing it especially after not drafting QB this year.
Lawrence contract is ridiculous....
This times 1000.
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I have my eyes on is Sam Darnold but only if he finishes the season strong.
Why? If he finishes strong he will get a large contract. Why would we assume he can handle NY and take on that risk? Shouldn’t we have learned our lesson on having 1 plus year of production vs several poor years of a track record?
Jones never really had a "plus" year of production of the type Darnold is on pace to post if his play continues. It really is possible that Darnold has finally blossomed after a career spent in abysmal franchises.
I think free agent QBs who haven't lived up to their promise should spend some time at elite or well-coached teams as a backup like Darnold did.
Are we really considering a 2nd and then some for him?
I simply don’t trust Darnold back in the NY market at the cost it will take to bring him here. If somehow we can get him for a year at $10m than sure.
Are we really considering a 2nd and then some for him?
I don't think his market would be anywhere near a day 2 pick, no less day 1. I'd offer a 6th with an potion to go to 5 if he plays a certain number of games. Take it or leave it.
Thanks so much!
Are we really considering a 2nd and then some for him?
No problem with a 2nd or 3rd for Young.
This franchise should be on a hard-target search to acquire any young QB that has shown plus skills.
In fact, acquire several and let them all compete for the starting job the old-fashioned way...by earning it.
I like this approach, especially drafting two QBs.
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what’s your max cost to pay vs what he would go far? He’s cost controlled for 3 more seasons plus the tag, which is his largest selling point - so you aren’t getting him for a day 3 and maybe even not a day 2 pick.
Are we really considering a 2nd and then some for him?
I don't think his market would be anywhere near a day 2 pick, no less day 1. I'd offer a 6th with a potion to go to 5 if he plays a certain number of games. Take it or leave it.
I think that’s an unrealistic expectation for a 3 year cost controlled QB that has barely a season of experience (within the worst offense in the league) and no major injuries.
Just ask yourself, would you sell him for a day 3 pick if you were the Panthers and if so, why?
I like this approach, especially drafting two QBs.
I think they could draft two AND sign a vet. Don't need any of the current guys back next year.
He is not a long term answer because he comes with the same problem Jones does - he makes really poor decisions. But he can also make enough plays to sometimes offset many of those mistakes.
The only one of the three QBs on this roster who should even be a mild consideration to come to camp next year is DeVito.
Lawrence isn’t getting traded after just signing a long term deal. The only vet that makes sense is Darnold but if he finishes strong and the Vikings win a game or 2 in the playoffs they will def resign him or if they decide to go with JJM, Darnold is going to get a big contract.
The Cardinals have one of the worst defenses in the league and have played one of the hardest schedules.
Murray is on track for 3400/23TD/6INT and 740 rush yards. That's the type of year that got Jones paid, no?
If they want to go the "Kerry Collins" route, I think the obvious name is Jameis Winston. He'd present the opposite problem from Jones - he'll throw the ball downfield (career 7.7 yards/attempt), but he will turn it over more. It's interesting he's only started 10 games since his wild 2019 season (33/30, 5109 yards, 8.2 Y/A). That Tampa team scored 28.6 PPG. For that production I might live with 30 picks.
He's still only 30 years old. You could reasonably expect to get 3 or 4 years out of him.
Draft a high potential QB between rounds 2 and 5 to develop and let the cards fall where they may.
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what’s your max cost to pay vs what he would go far? He’s cost controlled for 3 more seasons plus the tag, which is his largest selling point - so you aren’t getting him for a day 3 and maybe even not a day 2 pick.
Are we really considering a 2nd and then some for him?
I don't think his market would be anywhere near a day 2 pick, no less day 1. I'd offer a 6th with a potion to go to 5 if he plays a certain number of games. Take it or leave it.
I think that’s an unrealistic expectation for a 3 year cost controlled QB that has barely a season of experience (within the worst offense in the league) and no major injuries.
Just ask yourself, would you sell him for a day 3 pick if you were the Panthers and if so, why?
Nobody, but NOBODY is giving anything up of value. Right now, even on a rookie contract, he’s overpaid. If Carolina is drafting their next QB in April (they will), they may decide they don’t want their former top pick around. If they want a day 1 or 2 pick, good luck.
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Murray, other than Russell Wilson and Justin Fields, may be the worst qb in the league! Which one of the qb's you mentioned could win on this current team?
The Cardinals have one of the worst defenses in the league and have played one of the hardest schedules.
Murray is on track for 3400/23TD/6INT and 740 rush yards. That's the type of year that got Jones paid, no?
Jones has never had a year close to that. Don’t tell Jack Stroud, he still thinks Jones is as good as Mahomes.
Derek Carr though... if there is a head coach change in New Orleans....