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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/20/2024 9:00 am
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RE: Annoucers say be subtle  
Optimus-NY : 10/20/2024 2:33 pm : link
In comment 16653593 Hit4dough said:
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guess AJ Brown fully extended arm is subtle. Too many penalties in the NFL. I hardly ever watch college but when I do it seems like there is such a better flow not having a penalty every other play.


Agreed. College is a better brand of football IMO.
NFL officiating is a joke  
Rick in Dallas : 10/20/2024 2:33 pm : link
If you are going to PI on Johnson you call PI on Brown.
Here’s a novel idea: let them fucking play
If jones comes out at half as starter  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/20/2024 2:33 pm : link
Then dabOll is trying to lose.
RE: RE: I gues Daboll was thinking what we were  
Matt M. : 10/20/2024 2:33 pm : link
In comment 16653591 Toth029 said:
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In comment 16653576 Matt M. said:


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A sack or INT was more likely than a TD or even INC.



So go join Joe Judge in Ole Miss.
WTF does this even mean?
Daboll sucks  
Chris684 : 10/20/2024 2:33 pm : link
I’m thinking we’d have been better off siding with Wink. I would trust Kafka offensively more than Daboll at this point.

We better get these clowns out of here and bring in Vrabel.
Are the giants soft tanking?  
cosmicj : 10/20/2024 2:33 pm : link
I was expecting Greg Joseph to be cut mid week after his blunders in Cincy. He just almost missed that easy FG.
RE: 0 passing TDs at home after  
jpetuch : 10/20/2024 2:33 pm : link
In comment 16653580 Simms11 said:
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3 and 1/2 games at home! Worst offense I've ever seen from Giants and I witnessed the late 70s! This is horrendous 😢

Rather have Joe Pisarcik and that’s not saying much
No sounds where  
Amtoft : 10/20/2024 2:34 pm : link
I am watching the game… who was the OPI on? I didn’t see anything
RE: NFL officiating is a joke  
Jersey Heel : 10/20/2024 2:34 pm : link
In comment 16653601 Rick in Dallas said:
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If you are going to PI on Johnson you call PI on Brown.
Here’s a novel idea: let them fucking play

It’s infuriating. And hearing the commentators laugh about it is pissing me off more.
Theo Johnson  
cosmicj : 10/20/2024 2:34 pm : link
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So someone tell me why Jones is still our QB?  
Chris L. : 10/20/2024 2:34 pm : link
his offense basically scores no points. Is it even possible for the backup to do much worse? Last year both backups outperformed him. Lets go with the change already.
RE: No sounds where  
illmatic : 10/20/2024 2:35 pm : link
In comment 16653607 Amtoft said:
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I am watching the game… who was the OPI on? I didn’t see anything


Theo Johnson for a push off. They’ll call it on him but not on Brown, apparently.
This is why I hate the NFL  
UberAlias : 10/20/2024 2:35 pm : link
Every game comes down to which game changing play they re in the mood to call back or let stand. It’s a fivhing joke.
RE: RE: RE: I gues Daboll was thinking what we were  
Toth029 : 10/20/2024 2:35 pm : link
In comment 16653603 Matt M. said:
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A sack or INT was more likely than a TD or even INC.



So go join Joe Judge in Ole Miss.

WTF does this even mean?


Judge coached scared and so does Daboll. This offense won't do anything being so conservative.
Daboll has lost me  
jvm52106 : 10/20/2024 2:35 pm : link
With his completely inconsistent style of coaching. Daniel Campbell, good or bad, will call things consistently game after game and Daboll isn't even consistent in a single game. You never know when or why he decides to take chances and other times coaches like a pussy! I hate everything about this team right now- just so damn frustrating.
RE: Theo Johnson  
Amtoft : 10/20/2024 2:35 pm : link
In comment 16653609 cosmicj said:
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Are you kidding? Damn man I thought for sure it must have been someone else with a pick or something
This team  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/20/2024 2:35 pm : link
Could legit lose to car
Should be  
46and2Blue : 10/20/2024 2:36 pm : link
14-7 that was lame fucking offensive PI call
Why is everything a comeback  
Bleedblue10 : 10/20/2024 2:36 pm : link
There’s no rub routes there’s no creativity, nothing but run and turn around
RE: RE: NFL officiating is a joke  
UberAlias : 10/20/2024 2:36 pm : link
In comment 16653608 Jersey Heel said:
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If you are going to PI on Johnson you call PI on Brown.
Here’s a novel idea: let them fucking play


It’s infuriating. And hearing the commentators laugh about it is pissing me off more.
Exactly. Like having the refs decide over and over who wins and who loses is funny.
RE: RE: It’s like a form of torture  
jonnyess : 10/20/2024 2:36 pm : link
In comment 16653575 AcidTest said:
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watching this team play and rooting for them.



It's the football equivalent of a root canal.


hey.. I had my first root canal on Friday not too bad I got to say
RE: What a joke  
DisgruntledNYGfan : 10/20/2024 2:37 pm : link
In comment 16653572 terz22 said:
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If your don't call that on aj brown don't call.it there.


It was a bullshit call. His arms were not extended. Usually that is the determining factor.
RE: So someone tell me why Jones is still our QB?  
MojoEd : 10/20/2024 2:37 pm : link
In comment 16653610 Chris L. said:
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his offense basically scores no points. Is it even possible for the backup to do much worse? Last year both backups outperformed him. Lets go with the change already.

Mara + DJ - the love that date not speak its name.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/20/2024 2:37 pm : link
Lawrence Tynes
@lt4kicks
5 rushing attempts by the Giants in the first half? All Pro LT is out and we are nearly 3 to 1 pass/run. Don’t get it.
If you don’t have faith in your QB on 3rd down with 9 seconds left  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/20/2024 2:38 pm : link
…then he should not be your starting QB
RE: Daboll sucks  
mittenedman : 10/20/2024 2:38 pm : link
In comment 16653604 Chris684 said:
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I’m thinking we’d have been better off siding with Wink. I would trust Kafka offensively more than Daboll at this point.

We better get these clowns out of here and bring in Vrabel.


Agreed. What else can you say?

I don’t care who the players are. They’ve got most of their starting O on the field that’s been practicing all year together.

This is what you come up with? 100% in over his head. They fired the guy who has an actual clue what he’s doing.
RE: RE: NFL officiating is a joke  
jeff57 : 10/20/2024 2:38 pm : link
In comment 16653608 Jersey Heel said:
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If you are going to PI on Johnson you call PI on Brown.
Here’s a novel idea: let them fucking play


It’s infuriating. And hearing the commentators laugh about it is pissing me off more.


It was a clear push off on Johnson. That’s how he got open. Brown was already open.
Remember when Daboll arrived here and said he'd take risks?  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/20/2024 2:38 pm : link
He abandoned his risk taking when he realised the limits of his inept QB, yet Schoen did such a piss poor job acquiring a backup QB who'd give Jones some competition, that we have to sit here watching Jones give away games at home every fucking time he plays in MetLife! Lock is putrid, and that's where Schoen went as his only choice.
Time for Schoen to be on the hot seat.
RE: This team  
cosmicj : 10/20/2024 2:38 pm : link
In comment 16653616 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Could legit lose to car


LOL
Guys the refs aren't why this team sucks.  
Mike from SI : 10/20/2024 2:39 pm : link
Even though they're not helping.
RE: ...  
mittenedman : 10/20/2024 2:39 pm : link
In comment 16653625 Eric from BBI said:
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Lawrence Tynes
@lt4kicks
5 rushing attempts by the Giants in the first half? All Pro LT is out and we are nearly 3 to 1 pass/run. Don’t get it.


No problem. We’ve got Warren Moon at QB. Let’s just wing the ball around out of the shotgun.
i dont wish injury on anyone  
bigbluewillrise : 10/20/2024 2:39 pm : link
but watson just tore his achillies.


we always had that we werent the worst QB situation in the nfl.....that was the browws.


we officially have the worst QB situation in the nfl.

its over.
Bench Jones  
Woodstock : 10/20/2024 2:40 pm : link
Enough
with watson injury  
bigbluewillrise : 10/20/2024 2:41 pm : link
id trade any teams QB situation over ours (not withstanding contract).

i like DTR/winston.
RE: i dont wish injury on anyone  
cosmicj : 10/20/2024 2:41 pm : link
In comment 16653635 bigbluewillrise said:
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but watson just tore his achillies.


we always had that we werent the worst QB situation in the nfl.....that was the browws.


we officially have the worst QB situation in the nfl.

its over.


It’s actually sad. They have an excellent coach and defense and are paying a non-contributor $50mm per.
I  
AcidTest : 10/20/2024 2:41 pm : link
would cut McCloud after this game and promote Green.

The defense hasn't been that bad. They lost contain on the Barkley run, and McCloud was beaten, but that was more on Bowen not giving him help against Brown. Lawrence and Burns have been terrific.

The offense can't go anywhere. Ezeudu and frankly the whole OL have been awful, but Jones is just atrocious. He's been under pressure, but is holding the ball too long and is inaccurate. Being a tough guy doesn't excuse bad play. Not in year six. He's killing the team.

Four yards rushing in the first half.
RE: ...  
jeff57 : 10/20/2024 2:41 pm : link
In comment 16653625 Eric from BBI said:
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Lawrence Tynes
@lt4kicks
5 rushing attempts by the Giants in the first half? All Pro LT is out and we are nearly 3 to 1 pass/run. Don’t get it.


I said that last week too. Tracy had a great game and then he basically abandon s the run.
Sell everyone  
Jim in Forest Hills : 10/20/2024 2:41 pm : link
Ojulari, Slayton, Hyatt, banks, pinnock
RE: They need  
Stephen in Sofla : 10/20/2024 2:42 pm : link
In comment 16653438 Eric from BBI said:
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to bench Jones now.


I say last week. Now it's too late.

Always a day late and a dollar short!
Remember when Parcells would insert Hosteler?  
RELICDOA : 10/20/2024 2:42 pm : link
While having a great WB in Simms. Daboll will not budge off Jones at all?! Even to provide us a spark? A change of pace? A new look? I’m starting to think it’s not only Jones.
RE: This team  
jeff57 : 10/20/2024 2:43 pm : link
In comment 16653616 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Could legit lose to car


Yes, depending on the car.
RE: Daboll sucks  
DefenseWins : 10/20/2024 2:43 pm : link
In comment 16653604 Chris684 said:
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I’m thinking we’d have been better off siding with Wink.


Right.. because Wink's defense played at as high of a level as this year's defense.


Acid  
cosmicj : 10/20/2024 2:43 pm : link
You’re overreacting. McCloud is a decent player.
Bench Jones, then what  
Phils2008 : 10/20/2024 2:43 pm : link
We cant run the ball. How do you pass when a defense is not concerned one iota with your ground game? Receivers seem to stand around when Jones scrambles. This whole offense is dysfunctional including the play calling.
Soft tanking  
cosmicj : 10/20/2024 2:44 pm : link
?
RE: RE: ...  
mittenedman : 10/20/2024 2:44 pm : link
In comment 16653642 jeff57 said:
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In comment 16653625 Eric from BBI said:


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Lawrence Tynes
@lt4kicks
5 rushing attempts by the Giants in the first half? All Pro LT is out and we are nearly 3 to 1 pass/run. Don’t get it.



I said that last week too. Tracy had a great game and then he basically abandon s the run.


This is a northeast outdoor team. They need to hire someone who understands what that means.
8 rushing attempts  
Mike from SI : 10/20/2024 2:44 pm : link
5 by Daniel Jones.
RE: Bench Jones, then what  
DefenseWins : 10/20/2024 2:44 pm : link
In comment 16653650 Phils2008 said:
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We cant run the ball. How do you pass when a defense is not concerned one iota with your ground game? Receivers seem to stand around when Jones scrambles. This whole offense is dysfunctional including the play calling.


+1
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/20/2024 2:44 pm : link
Tip of the cap to you still watching this. I can’t anymore.
RE: RE: ...  
mfsd : 10/20/2024 2:45 pm : link
In comment 16653642 jeff57 said:
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In comment 16653625 Eric from BBI said:


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Lawrence Tynes
@lt4kicks
5 rushing attempts by the Giants in the first half? All Pro LT is out and we are nearly 3 to 1 pass/run. Don’t get it.



I said that last week too. Tracy had a great game and then he basically abandon s the run.


It’s not just the pass/run imbalance. Calling several 5 step drops for Jones.

As a coach, you have to assume Ezeudu is going to get shredded. Commit to the run, give him help in pass blocking, roll Jones out, and stick to the quick hitters

If they don’t work, fine, but expecting Jones to hold up under pressure is guaranteed to fail
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