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Wan’dale Robinson is a JAG

JoeyBigBlue : 10/20/2024 6:50 pm
23 yards on 9 targets today and another drop as well. He’s the definition of a JAG and we should be looking to upgrade in the offseason if possible.
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He is a body catcher  
Mike from Ohio : 10/20/2024 6:51 pm : link
Which will always lead to drops. He is a decent player, but you can go find a guy like him in the 4th or 5th round every year.
we had to get the worst catch radius body catcher WR in nfl history  
bigbluewillrise : 10/20/2024 6:51 pm : link
in teh 2nd.

we just had to.


another joe shcoen special.
Hard to get YAC when your QB can’t hit you on the move.  
Ivan15 : 10/20/2024 6:52 pm : link
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They were insane  
RetroJint : 10/20/2024 6:53 pm : link
to think he could be their third down, move-the-chains receiver. He plays tiny. He doesn’t present to the ball. And he has very questionable hands .
He could be  
46and2Blue : 10/20/2024 6:53 pm : link
More dynamic with a better qb. The low catch radius and dropping balls through contact are starting to become irritating
I think y'all overreacting  
Giantsfan79 : 10/20/2024 6:55 pm : link
he's a body catcher when the play calls for him to run a curl or comeback right at the first down marker. But when they - rarely - manage to get him the ball in space he's way better.
RE: I think y'all overreacting  
JoeyBigBlue : 10/20/2024 7:00 pm : link
In comment 16654978 Giantsfan79 said:
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he's a body catcher when the play calls for him to run a curl or comeback right at the first down marker. But when they - rarely - manage to get him the ball in space he's way better.


Even with a good QB he’s a 30-50 yard a game player at best. Too many limitations to his game, especially for a high 2nd round pick. He’s not a complete waste but you expect more from the asset used to acquire him.
23 yards on 9 targets is JAG?  
jogo1 : 10/20/2024 7:02 pm : link
Standards are low around here...
Nothing that normally..........  
OX100 : 10/20/2024 7:02 pm : link
..........would work in any offense, is going too, when the D only has to defend 15 years over the LOS.
RE: He could be  
mfsd : 10/20/2024 7:03 pm : link
In comment 16654972 46and2Blue said:
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More dynamic with a better qb. The low catch radius and dropping balls through contact are starting to become irritating


Yup. He’s a guy who would be a stud with a stud like Mahomes at QB

He’s not good enough to make chicken salad out of the chicken shit that is our QB and offense
Put  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/20/2024 7:05 pm : link
Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.
I like him BUT  
Aaroninma : 10/20/2024 7:07 pm : link
I cant take much more of him stopping his route short of the sticks. Its driving me crazy
RE: Put  
JT039 : 10/20/2024 7:07 pm : link
In comment 16655001 Eric from BBI said:
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Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.


Put him with Reid and see how much better he is.
RE: Put  
Mike from Ohio : 10/20/2024 7:10 pm : link
In comment 16655001 Eric from BBI said:
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Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.


Why? What have you seen him do this year that screams ‘dangerous?’

He wasn’t much of a fan of Toney, who also had a problem catching the ball.
Once the receiver has the ball  
widmerseyebrow : 10/20/2024 7:12 pm : link
It doesn't matter who the QB is who threw it. Wandale is one of these "elusive" guys who don't seem to get YAC yards to match the perception of his game. Certainly not at the level of a 2nd rounder.
He is  
Giantsbigblue : 10/20/2024 7:14 pm : link
A gadget player forced to play slot.
RE: Put  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/20/2024 7:14 pm : link
In comment 16655001 Eric from BBI said:
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Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.


Mahomes loves guys w crappy hands and runs 3rd down route short? Sure
.  
Banks : 10/20/2024 7:18 pm : link
He's been disappointing. Jones sucks, but he has sucked in his own right. He had several badly dropped balls this year
I haven't seen much  
fkap : 10/20/2024 7:28 pm : link
that says he's part of a deadly WR corp. He'd prolly look better with a better QB, but I don't see top tier as part of the description. So-so is more apt.
He's very good when he catches the ball in stride.  
BigBlueNH : 10/20/2024 7:35 pm : link
That rarely happens because our QB rarely places the ball where it needs to be.
Catch radius really Small  
jwb50 : 10/20/2024 7:36 pm : link
Schoen thought he was outsmarting everybody drafting him
RE: Put  
rnargi : 10/20/2024 7:46 pm : link
In comment 16655001 Eric from BBI said:
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Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.


Mahomes has 6 TDs and 8 INTs on the season, yet KC is 6-0
Everything stems from the QB  
ElitoCanton : 10/20/2024 7:47 pm : link
Defenses aren't giving him space because defense play right at the stick because they know the dufus at QB can't make a 2nd read or hit much of anything past 10 yards. Robinson would be a weapon if there was space to operate that comes with even an average QB. Enough with looking anywhere else to blame but the QB position.
Wasn’t worth a second round pick  
jeff57 : 10/20/2024 7:47 pm : link
And this isn’t hindsight.
He's not even that  
speedywheels : 10/20/2024 7:47 pm : link
He's awful. He and Slayton can take their body catching nonsense and go suck somewhere else...
RE: Hard to get YAC when your QB can’t hit you on the move.  
eric2425ny : 10/20/2024 8:10 pm : link
In comment 16654969 Ivan15 said:
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This… Robinson will be a good slot with a good QB.
RE: RE: Put  
eric2425ny : 10/20/2024 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16655066 rnargi said:
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In comment 16655001 Eric from BBI said:


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Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.



Mahomes has 6 TDs and 8 INTs on the season, yet KC is 6-0


His numbers are HORRIBLE this year. Spags defense is the main reason they are undefeated.
Everyone sucks  
NYGiantFL007 : 10/20/2024 8:14 pm : link
when your QB sucks. Stop making excuses for your Sucky QB. Was Wandale worth a 2nd round pick... not in my opinion. But he is a good gadget player and would thrive in the right system.
A gadget player  
gary_from_chester : 10/20/2024 8:16 pm : link
Lots of drops. Does not make guys miss. Can be ok on the move and in limited role. Overrated by many on this board. Poor value in the second round. Not a true difference maker, the definition of JAG.

On the positive side, was much better value than Hyatt… what a disappointment he has been. I’d rather see Hodgins than either of these guys - he gets open, catches the ball and his size is a plus.
I’d argue Robinson is  
Breeze_94 : 10/20/2024 8:20 pm : link
A negative for the offense.

He has a high drop rate. Historically tiny catch radius that is exacerbated with body catching. Is a non-threat 5 yards beyond the LOS.

The stats also agree, as they average hardly over 4 yards when targeting him. To give you an idea of how inefficient he is…it’s like your QB dropping back 67 times in one game and only having 303 yards passing.
He'd  
AcidTest : 10/20/2024 8:28 pm : link
likely be better with a better QB, but then so would all of our WRs, RBs, and TEs.

He's quite elusive in the open field, but has too many drops and also has a small catch radius because of his height.

My recollection is that Kafka really wanted him in the draft.
RE: RE: Put  
Giantsbigblue : 10/20/2024 8:35 pm : link
In comment 16655024 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 16655001 Eric from BBI said:


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Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.



Mahomes loves guys w crappy hands and runs 3rd down route short? Sure


It's why they drafted Sky Moore and traded for Toney
He's the kind of guy  
mittenedman : 10/20/2024 8:38 pm : link
who'd be valuable to have around as a 4/5 WR if he was a great PR and KR too.

I just don't see a 2nd round talent there.
last year  
blueblood : 10/20/2024 8:50 pm : link
Robinson i believe was top five in yards per separation per catch.. which means he has the ability to get open.. NOW he needs to improve his receptions.. and they need to find ways to get him the ball other than..

run a curl
RE: Put  
prdave73 : 10/20/2024 8:53 pm : link
In comment 16655001 Eric from BBI said:
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Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.


Agree. He is very good player. Don't underestimate certain players on this team. That's what the Giants organization did and look at them thriving on another team!
RE: RE: Put  
speedywheels : 10/20/2024 8:54 pm : link
In comment 16655173 prdave73 said:
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In comment 16655001 Eric from BBI said:


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Wan'Dale with a real QB.

Mahomes would love him.



Agree. He is very good player. Don't underestimate certain players on this team. That's what the Giants organization did and look at them thriving on another team!


Mahomes really loved Toney! Oh, wait....
Wandale  
Sammo85 : 10/20/2024 9:11 pm : link
is what he is. He’s a short field, twitchy underneath guy who can catch screens, bubble screens, slot and underneath stuff and short routes. He’s really a guy who is a #3 WR outside your two main wideouts.
Hate his game TBH  
Danny Kanell : 10/20/2024 9:16 pm : link
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Him, I'm willing to give another year  
Matt M. : 10/20/2024 9:17 pm : link
The second half of last year, he was a budding star. He's regressed this year between the terrible offense and the terrible QB.
He's a complimentary  
bluepepper : 10/20/2024 9:26 pm : link
type player. On an offense that is a threat to get the ball downfield, he could catch a lot of short passes, make a guy miss and turn a short gain into decent gain. Move the chains. Bail the QB out when he's under pressure. Problem is no defense is worried about us getting the ball downfield.
He was a huge reach at pick 43  
averagejoe : 10/20/2024 9:28 pm : link
Tiny guy that is somewhat elusive. Another JS failure .
It’s amazing to me how many nincompoops  
aimrocky : 10/20/2024 9:29 pm : link
On this site can’t see what the primary problem is.

Post after post complaining about ancillary pieces. Daniel Jones fucken sucks…………
This comments sound exactly like the comments about Engram  
Hammer : 10/20/2024 9:39 pm : link
And look at him since he left Jones.

Same thing'll happen with Robinson.

When he leaves Jones behind his game will improve exponentially.
Pretty much agree.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/20/2024 9:47 pm : link
Strikes me as someone who needs to be the third or fourth weapon in an offense.
RE: It’s amazing to me how many nincompoops  
UberAlias : 10/20/2024 9:51 pm : link
In comment 16655232 aimrocky said:
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On this site can’t see what the primary problem is.

Post after post complaining about ancillary pieces. Daniel Jones fucken sucks…………
I don't think people grasp how teams are able to defend this offense with Jones at QB. The underneath game is shot because everyone can sit back in their zone and drill down on the shallow routes as soon as the ball is in the air because Jones gives them zero to worry about the vertical game. Same thing happening to Nabers --as soon as the ball is there, he gets mugged by two defenders. Go watch --it is plain as day. It was the exact case last year. In 2022, things were slightly different because defenses keyed on Saquon. You can't judge the talent of the WRs on this team because the QB limits the field of play. The one area of the field that defense worry about most is not a concern when they play us. In today's game --you cannot operate an offense that doesn't challenge defense vertically unless you have a monster of a running game, which we don't.
He’s not terrible, but he was WAY overdrafted.  
Section331 : 10/20/2024 9:53 pm : link
Tiny guy with small hands and short arms. How many WR’s with his physical profile have been good NFL WR’s? Yes, playing with Jones doesn’t help, but I think many here overrate him.
To clarify --when I said It was the exact case last year  
UberAlias : 10/20/2024 9:53 pm : link
I meant with Jones. The one thing the other QBs did that made the difference was take shots down field, and occasionally hit them.
Wan'dale  
sb2003 : 10/20/2024 10:10 pm : link
should be the name of a carnival game. Dude drops everything.
 
christian : 10/20/2024 10:13 pm : link
Robinson was a downfield playmaker at Kentucky. I respect his effort to be a tackle breaking, dump off guy, but he's too small to be that consistently on this level.

Unfortunately the Giants can't pass the ball with any consistency downfield so this is what you get.
George Pickens  
Mdgiantsfan : 10/20/2024 10:22 pm : link
With absolutely no WR#1 on the roster, we could’ve had Pickens instead of Wandale. Wandale is not bad but for me I don’t see him as a high impact player.

Pickens just brings more to the table.
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