Is that Wan’dale Robinson is no cornerstone player and can be upgraded in the offseason. He still has his 4th year on his rookie contract, but he’s not a guy I would prioritize signing. He’s a good 4th receiver on most teams, that doesn’t play special teams.
Not really, he is the centerpiece of how our offense operates. He literally gets the ball at many critical junctures and fails just as often, if not more, than he succeeds. So, he is a big issue at the moment.
He’s not a 2. He drops some passes that will drive you crazy but he makes a lot of plays. The Giants use him on 3-5yd routes like they did with Engram. They aren’t getting him into space. This offense is very limited by the QB and the past 2 weeks the OL.
and then watch them make big plays when we get beat by their teams when they come in and play us like bj hill, barkley, etc. even freaking jihad ward got a sack i think. rinse repeat.
The problem is he's doing a lot of what should be done by Nabers - short/intermediate stuff out of the slot with high YAC. In a sense they feel redundant, with Nabers obviously being the greater talent.
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with mediocre hands that can't make a defender miss. I'm sorry, but if you're one of those small quick type of receivers, you better be able to make guys miss. He can't make a LB miss. IMO, he's the definition of a JAG.
The problem is he's doing a lot of what should be done by Nabers - short/intermediate stuff out of the slot with high YAC. In a sense they feel redundant, with Nabers obviously being the greater talent.
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Nabers isn’t a slot receiver. He’s a do everything outside receiver, that can take shorts route and get YAC or a guy that can go deep and blow the top off a defense.
Someone like Robinson can be effective in a different offense
but an underneath receiver doesn't work in an offense that can only throw underneath. YAC is tough to come by when all you can do is run crossing routes and curls against coverage that knows the ball has to be thrown within 7-10 yards of the line of scrimmage.
YAC is also tough when you don't catch the ball. Some of that is on bad ball placement, some of that is on bad pass catching technique.
The problem is he's doing a lot of what should be done by Nabers - short/intermediate stuff out of the slot with high YAC. In a sense they feel redundant, with Nabers obviously being the greater talent.
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Nabers isn’t a slot receiver. He’s a do everything outside receiver, that can take shorts route and get YAC or a guy that can go deep and blow the top off a defense.
If you watch his work at LSU you'll see a ton of fade routes run out of the slot.
I would think with his change of direction skills we'd want him operating from everywhere, especially the slot.
That's why NFL coaching has more to with winning and losing than any other sport. How many players do the Chiefs have that aren't JAG? 5? 10?
Remember when Jerry Reese/Mark Ross drafted Travis Beckum a light, non blocking TE for Tom Coughlin, a HC who wanted big blocking TEs? What were they thinking? The fit made no sense.
From the minute he was drafted a lot of Giants fans pointed out that Robinson has a tiny catch radius. Why would a team that has a QB that struggles with ball placement even on 5 yard throws draft a player like that? The fit made no sense. The only way Robinson can be a weapon is if he's hit right on the numbers in stride. Daniel Jones can't do that.
That's why NFL coaching has more to with winning and losing than any other sport. How many players do the Chiefs have that aren't JAG? 5? 10?
Remember when Jerry Reese/Mark Ross drafted Travis Beckum a light, non blocking TE for Tom Coughlin, a HC who wanted big blocking TEs? What were they thinking? The fit made no sense.
From the minute he was drafted a lot of Giants fans pointed out that Robinson has a tiny catch radius. Why would a team that has a QB that struggles with ball placement even on 5 yard throws draft a player like that? The fit made no sense. The only way Robinson can be a weapon is if he's hit right on the numbers in stride. Daniel Jones can't do that.
This is absolutely right. Most NFL players are in the B/C range to use an academic scale. The trap most fans get into is to think there B-/C+ players are somehow better than the other teams b-/c+ players. Most of the time whether a person is serviceable is how the person is used and the fit. Robinson is a JAG and a bad fit for DJ given his catch raDIUS.
He has a high drop rate. Historically tiny catch radius that is exacerbated with body catching. Is a non-threat 5 yards beyond the LOS.
The stats also agree, as they average hardly over 4 yards when targeting him. To give you an idea of how inefficient he is…it’s like your QB dropping back 67 times in one game and only having 303 yards passing.
He's like a better RB WR than Samuel was at the expense of his WR skills and talent.
He's actually kinda of a useless player in the age of two high safeties... the slot player needs to be dependable past the sticks on 3rd downs....he just can't do that because of how small he is.
That's why NFL coaching has more to with winning and losing than any other sport. How many players do the Chiefs have that aren't JAG? 5? 10?
Remember when Jerry Reese/Mark Ross drafted Travis Beckum a light, non blocking TE for Tom Coughlin, a HC who wanted big blocking TEs? What were they thinking? The fit made no sense.
From the minute he was drafted a lot of Giants fans pointed out that Robinson has a tiny catch radius. Why would a team that has a QB that struggles with ball placement even on 5 yard throws draft a player like that? The fit made no sense. The only way Robinson can be a weapon is if he's hit right on the numbers in stride. Daniel Jones can't do that.
almost all nfl players are JAG is exactly right. talent wise the league has never been flatter.
look across the field yesterday, hurts had 114 yards passing and his OL was crap. barkley and AJB made individual big plays that scored points. their coaching got production out of their handful of truly talented players despite obvious limitations. the giants didnt. as has been the case with both orgs for 10 years.
The problem is he's doing a lot of what should be done by Nabers - short/intermediate stuff out of the slot with high YAC. In a sense they feel redundant, with Nabers obviously being the greater talent.
More great roster construction/coaching from this band of village idiots.
Nabers isn’t a slot receiver. He’s a do everything outside receiver, that can take shorts route and get YAC or a guy that can go deep and blow the top off a defense.
If you watch his work at LSU you'll see a ton of fade routes run out of the slot.
I would think with his change of direction skills we'd want him operating from everywhere, especially the slot.
That’s the other problem having Robinson presents. He’s a slot receiver only and doesn’t really allow for other players to be in that spot and unless you go 4 receivers and have 2 guys inside.
Wandale can't break tackles. to many drops as well.
He was drafted way to high given his size.
Not really, he is the centerpiece of how our offense operates. He literally gets the ball at many critical junctures and fails just as often, if not more, than he succeeds. So, he is a big issue at the moment.
Based on what??? Right.
Wan'dale simply drops too many balls and a number of them were 3rd down plays that could have led to 1st downs.
He's a day three talent for sure, playing with a day three talented QB.
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Nabers isn’t a slot receiver. He’s a do everything outside receiver, that can take shorts route and get YAC or a guy that can go deep and blow the top off a defense.
YAC is also tough when you don't catch the ball. Some of that is on bad ball placement, some of that is on bad pass catching technique.
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The problem is he's doing a lot of what should be done by Nabers - short/intermediate stuff out of the slot with high YAC. In a sense they feel redundant, with Nabers obviously being the greater talent.
More great roster construction/coaching from this band of village idiots.
Nabers isn’t a slot receiver. He’s a do everything outside receiver, that can take shorts route and get YAC or a guy that can go deep and blow the top off a defense.
If you watch his work at LSU you'll see a ton of fade routes run out of the slot.
I would think with his change of direction skills we'd want him operating from everywhere, especially the slot.
Remember when Jerry Reese/Mark Ross drafted Travis Beckum a light, non blocking TE for Tom Coughlin, a HC who wanted big blocking TEs? What were they thinking? The fit made no sense.
From the minute he was drafted a lot of Giants fans pointed out that Robinson has a tiny catch radius. Why would a team that has a QB that struggles with ball placement even on 5 yard throws draft a player like that? The fit made no sense. The only way Robinson can be a weapon is if he's hit right on the numbers in stride. Daniel Jones can't do that.
Wandale isn't a stud. A stud catches everything thrown to him.
Remember when Jerry Reese/Mark Ross drafted Travis Beckum a light, non blocking TE for Tom Coughlin, a HC who wanted big blocking TEs? What were they thinking? The fit made no sense.
From the minute he was drafted a lot of Giants fans pointed out that Robinson has a tiny catch radius. Why would a team that has a QB that struggles with ball placement even on 5 yard throws draft a player like that? The fit made no sense. The only way Robinson can be a weapon is if he's hit right on the numbers in stride. Daniel Jones can't do that.
This is absolutely right. Most NFL players are in the B/C range to use an academic scale. The trap most fans get into is to think there B-/C+ players are somehow better than the other teams b-/c+ players. Most of the time whether a person is serviceable is how the person is used and the fit. Robinson is a JAG and a bad fit for DJ given his catch raDIUS.
He has a high drop rate. Historically tiny catch radius that is exacerbated with body catching. Is a non-threat 5 yards beyond the LOS.
The stats also agree, as they average hardly over 4 yards when targeting him. To give you an idea of how inefficient he is…it’s like your QB dropping back 67 times in one game and only having 303 yards passing.
He's like a better RB WR than Samuel was at the expense of his WR skills and talent.
He's actually kinda of a useless player in the age of two high safeties... the slot player needs to be dependable past the sticks on 3rd downs....he just can't do that because of how small he is.
Remember when Jerry Reese/Mark Ross drafted Travis Beckum a light, non blocking TE for Tom Coughlin, a HC who wanted big blocking TEs? What were they thinking? The fit made no sense.
From the minute he was drafted a lot of Giants fans pointed out that Robinson has a tiny catch radius. Why would a team that has a QB that struggles with ball placement even on 5 yard throws draft a player like that? The fit made no sense. The only way Robinson can be a weapon is if he's hit right on the numbers in stride. Daniel Jones can't do that.
almost all nfl players are JAG is exactly right. talent wise the league has never been flatter.
look across the field yesterday, hurts had 114 yards passing and his OL was crap. barkley and AJB made individual big plays that scored points. their coaching got production out of their handful of truly talented players despite obvious limitations. the giants didnt. as has been the case with both orgs for 10 years.
Oh c'mon now, he's a very average player.
His size is killing him in the NFL.
Pickens was the pick character questions be damned. You pick Pickens, you don't end up taking Hyatt.
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The problem is he's doing a lot of what should be done by Nabers - short/intermediate stuff out of the slot with high YAC. In a sense they feel redundant, with Nabers obviously being the greater talent.
More great roster construction/coaching from this band of village idiots.
Nabers isn’t a slot receiver. He’s a do everything outside receiver, that can take shorts route and get YAC or a guy that can go deep and blow the top off a defense.
If you watch his work at LSU you'll see a ton of fade routes run out of the slot.
I would think with his change of direction skills we'd want him operating from everywhere, especially the slot.
That’s the other problem having Robinson presents. He’s a slot receiver only and doesn’t really allow for other players to be in that spot and unless you go 4 receivers and have 2 guys inside.