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tbonfig : 10/21/2024 11:07 am
To all the fellow parents out there - I need some help.

My daughter just turned 10 recently and has enjoyed playing rec league soccer until this season. She aged out of her normal rec league and tried out (and made) the local travel team. She knows a lot of kids on the team, including her best friend, and was super excited.

There are a few challenges that we are dealing with now. The first and main one is that the talent gap between rec and travel is pretty big. Although athletic in a lot of ways, she is not a natural soccer player. We're seeing a huge difference in the basic skills needed to succeed. We're going to start putting extra work in on the basic skills to just continue to improve - this I can handle.

The second and maybe actually more challenging issue is that she is completely lost out there. Despite a few years of playing rec and a bunch of camps and stuff in between, she still lacks the full understanding of field positioning and responsibilities.

It doesn't help that the coaching style is a little harsh (not bad enough to warrant saying something, just not the type of style that fits her - she needs positive feedback). During the game yesterday, they put at mid on the same sideline as the coaches so they could communicate with her but the communication was more along the lines of "Come on, you need to be here". "What are you doing". "Hurry up and hustle to the ball".

She seems broken. I'm heartbroken. My little girl is going through a big challenge right now - failing so obviously at something she enjoys. We've had a conversation for a few weeks now about the three choices moving forward: (i) quit, which is not an option really; (ii) finish this and the spring season and don't do it in fall 2025; or (iii) put in extra work and get up to everyone else's level. She is ADAMANT she wants to continue with the team and put in the extra work.

This is where I need help - I have found a bunch of youth soccer training videos and sites for skill work (I was not a soccer player so I have to do my homework) - BUT, I need some good resources that teach kids field and situational positioning so we can start doing some "film study" and working on it like any other subject.

I could obviously google and figure it out BUT I figured I would ping the BBI collective as I'm sure I'm not the first one of us to go through something similar.

Thanks all
How Intense/competitive is this travel team?  
Lambuth_Special : 10/21/2024 11:27 am : link
I know in my area (Rochester) there are a couple of travel teams of varying intensity - which is a whole other subject (the travel team culture seems over the top). I say this because the coaching you describe seems pretty negative for 10 year olds, especially for someone new to the team.

My son is 7 and very into soccer, and already his friends are doing travel, so we're considering it. Apples to oranges comparision, but my son got a lot better with competing and positioning this Summer after getting really into watching the Euro and Copa America tournaments (mostly just highlights but some games). Maybe watching a few high level games could help.
Mid  
Giantsbigblue : 10/21/2024 11:27 am : link
Is a hard position to learn at that age. There is a lot of responsibility and knowing when to attack and knowing when to fall back. If she is mid, tell her to start using her voice and position herself based on where her strikers are. Whatever formation they use, there should be triangles where you can show her where she belongs.

Also explain to her soccer is a fluid game and closest to the ball should be the one attacking.
If its a good travel/select team with good coaches, then let them  
PatersonPlank : 10/21/2024 11:34 am : link
coach and stay out. If you want to get skills training for her ask the coaches/parents who they would recommend She will learn the positions, it just takes a little time.

If you are really unhappy check around for other teams. Usually there is a league with other teams and coaches. After this season they will have tryouts before next season, and you can visit with the teams and coaches during that period
Here  
Giantsbigblue : 10/21/2024 11:40 am : link
Is a link of a magnetic coaching board. Move the soccer ball around and have her practice setting up where she should be based on where the ball is.
Soccer board - ( New Window )
I've coached youth soccer for a long time.....  
Jacobs #27 : 10/21/2024 11:43 am : link
and in particular girls teams around your daughters' age ( I have two daughters).

First of all it's a fantastic sport for kids and I'm glad she enjoys it so much. It's fanstaict that she's facing some adversity and doesn't want to just quit....so good for her.

Second the main thing you should realize is even though some of the kids have been playing a long time they are still VERY young. If she keeps it up she can have another 8 or so years of youth playing and lots of adults still play as well. So keep in mind she has plenty of time to catch up. The girlls who are starts at 10 are not always the ones who are stars in HS and vice versa.

This the negativity from the coaches is absolutely BS. Telling her where to go on the field is great. Comments like "what are you doing" are complete garbage and offer zero input to the player and only make her feel worse about herself and embarrass her in fromt of her teammates.

I'm sorry to say this but in my optinion most youth sports coaches are in it for the wrong reason. They want to win for their own ego and gratification instead of teaching the kids how to get better at a sport. The good news is there are a lot of youth clubs out there (at least where I am in Northern NJ) and I"m sure you can find another club if things don't improve where she is now.

I'm sure some 1 v 1 training would help but honestly I would not want my kid playing in that environment if I had an alternative.

Best of luck with it and make sure she sticks with the game no matter what.
Soccer is not for everyone  
SomeFan : 10/21/2024 11:44 am : link
My older daughter was like your daughter. The middle one naturally took to it and had a very good soccer playing career culminating in playing in a women's rec league for a couple of years after college. I steered them both into what I thought they would be good at. That I think is the key, not necessarily forcing them into a sport. All that said, if she really wants to play soccer, you should let her play and let her quit when she wants to.
9/10 is the transition age  
UConn4523 : 10/21/2024 11:56 am : link
it’s typically where you go from 7v7 to 9v9 and the skill level jumps along with it. My daughter is 9, players on a travel/premier team which is 2015 girls only which is 7v7 and her town rec league which is mainly 2014’s and 9v9. She’s ok, definitely not the best player but good enough to justify being there and learning pretty quickly with the increased competitiveness and playing older competition.

My suggestion is work with her on your own and build her confidence. My daughter is not type A so she needs her confidence built up which means find the things she’s good that and make it her foundation, and slow add harder things. My daughter switched from midfield to defense and she’s gotten a lot better. You should also get feedback from her coaches and apply that accordingly. You are paying a good amount for her to be on that team, the least they can do is communicate with you on where your kid is at.
Also, this age it’s easy to see a huge talent gap  
UConn4523 : 10/21/2024 11:58 am : link
but it closes as they age. One way to close it earlier is to be the player that outworks. That’s obviously very tiring in Soccer but you can lack skill and be a good player if you know where to be and hustle.
After rereading your post I thought this was a select team  
PatersonPlank : 10/21/2024 12:02 pm : link
which starts at 11 yrs old (at lease for my daughter). 10 years old in between. With select teams they usually have more professional coaches, like the local High School coaches or ex-players. 10yr old/rec coaches may be just dads. If its just dads coaching, like I used too, that's completely different. As stated she has a lot of time to go and get better, the key is to find a team with good coaching. That makes a big difference for girls especially
Lots of good advice here  
ImThatGuy : 10/21/2024 12:06 pm : link
I'll also add - go to a local girls high school game, sit in the stands so you are elevated a bit. I learned so much when I was about 12 years old and my dad took me to a high school game.
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Go Terps : 10/21/2024 12:09 pm : link
As UConn said that's when they move to 9v9, and the responsibilities change. My 9 year old boy is the center mid on his team too, and the nature of his position definitely changed.

In terms of advice I'd say to just try to keep it simple. Use the penalty areas as guides - don't venture too much into either one and don't venture wider than either one too much. Focus more on the defensive responsibilities first. When the ball comes her way, take a good first touch and play it the way she's facing.

It takes time. If she made the team it's because she's good enough to be there.

RE: I've coached youth soccer for a long time.....  
Lambuth_Special : 10/21/2024 12:09 pm : link
In comment 16655901 Jacobs #27 said:
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This the negativity from the coaches is absolutely BS. Telling her where to go on the field is great. Comments like "what are you doing" are complete garbage and offer zero input to the player and only make her feel worse about herself and embarrass her in fromt of her teammates.


Yeah, I only coach rec, but if I have a player who is clueless it's very easy to simply take them aside for a few minutes in practice or on the bench in games to give them a few pointers. If I ever get mad during a game it's always directed at the team-wide effort or a position group, never an individual.

I may understand ragging on players once they hit the teenage years on a higher level of competition, but that's a lot for 10-year-olds.
What you described  
Gman11 : 10/21/2024 12:46 pm : link
was not a coach. A coach of a 10-year old team does not yell, "What are you doing?" Assuming that there is unlimited substitution, the coach should take her out of the game and explain what could have and should have been done. That "coach" is no better than the over enthusiastic parent that never played the sport.
Like most  
Pete in MD : 10/21/2024 1:08 pm : link
BBI threads with the word "soccer" in the title. I will jump in and provide nothing to the conversation, except just to write:

I don't like soccer.
RE: Like most  
Jacobs #27 : 10/21/2024 1:20 pm : link
In comment 16656110 Pete in MD said:
Quote:
BBI threads with the word "soccer" in the title. I will jump in and provide nothing to the conversation, except just to write:

I don't like soccer.


It's one thing to be an asshole, it's another to proudly announce it to the world.
I'm really  
Pete in MD : 10/21/2024 1:28 pm : link
not trying to be an asshole. There will be soccer threads with pages of talk about tactics and how certain players impact a game (match) and sure enough, someone always takes the time to click into the thread and say, "Soccer is boring" or "The US would be better if LeBron James played soccer."
It is tough to  
Giantsbigblue : 10/21/2024 1:31 pm : link
Coach. If the Coach is habitually saying negative things to your daughter, you should talk to him and express what feedback works for her.

I have parents who think I'm waaaay to easy on my kids and then occasionally will get an email from another that I'm being too hard.

As a u12 travel girls coach myself, I look for kids that hustle and one's who pay attention and don't goof around while we are teaching during practice. I will always be less patient with those kids but it comes out of their playing time.

I'd see if the Coach is willing to meet up early for practice where the 3 of you can work on helping your daughter in a smaller group which provides a better learning environment.
RE: I'm really  
UConn4523 : 10/21/2024 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16656139 Pete in MD said:
Quote:
not trying to be an asshole. There will be soccer threads with pages of talk about tactics and how certain players impact a game (match) and sure enough, someone always takes the time to click into the thread and say, "Soccer is boring" or "The US would be better if LeBron James played soccer."


Those are worthless too, but this is worse. You can not like soccer and still sympathize with a father asking for advice about a sport their child is learning how to navigate.
I coached soccer for awhile  
Boatie Warrant : 10/21/2024 1:45 pm : link
I used an app called "soccer exercises for kids" by grupo campus.

It has a lot of good drills and som animations.

Best thing for kids that age is stamina with the ball, Dribbling skills and learning to put power behind the ball.

Good luck!
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