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NFT: RIP Fernando Valenzuela

Greg from LI : 10/23/2024 12:03 am
On the eve of the World Series, the star of the last Yankees-Dodgers World Series has passed away at 63.
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wow, way too young  
markky : 10/23/2024 2:10 am : link
saw him pitch in Dodger's stadium. he was a huge star in LA back in the day.
RIP  
KDavies : 10/23/2024 8:23 am : link
one of the funnest players of my childhood. You couldn't help but like the guy, even if not a Dodger fan
Fernandomania!  
Stu11 : 10/23/2024 8:33 am : link
he is right up there with El Tiante with how fun it was to watch him with all his quirkiness. Damn good pitcher. Unfortunately for us he turned around the '81 WS with his gutty complete game in game 3 after giving up a couple of early 2 run HR's but then went the distance on get this- 147 pitches! lol that's 2 starts now a days. RIP. Definitely way too young. I'm sure they'll be a great tribute to him Friday at DS.
waxls at Boy Scout camp  
Giantsfan79 : 10/23/2024 8:44 am : link
When he and Dave Stewart had their no hitters
RE: Fernandomania!  
mfsd : 10/23/2024 8:50 am : link
In comment 16658155 Stu11 said:
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he is right up there with El Tiante with how fun it was to watch him with all his quirkiness. Damn good pitcher. Unfortunately for us he turned around the '81 WS with his gutty complete game in game 3 after giving up a couple of early 2 run HR's but then went the distance on get this- 147 pitches! lol that's 2 starts now a days. RIP. Definitely way too young. I'm sure they'll be a great tribute to him Friday at DS.


That game and series ranks among my earliest memories of watching sports with my dad, I was 7 at the time. With Yanks up 2-0 I said we’re going to win! And after game 3, my dad said uh oh, they just made it a series

RIP, one of the most memorable players of our generation
Ugh, that's way too young  
JonC : 10/23/2024 8:53 am : link
He was something special, he was the magic in 1981 baseball despite the strike ugliness.
what a shame. fun to watch, great pitcher  
Victor in CT : 10/23/2024 8:57 am : link
and something we wont see again
Remeber that 1981 WS Game 3 well  
bluepepper : 10/23/2024 10:00 am : link
turned the tide though truth be told Bob Lemon's infatuation with George Frazier and Ron Davis had as much to do with it as Fernando.

RIP
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AcidTest : 10/23/2024 10:07 am : link
am a long-time Dodgers fan and remember Fernandomania well. He was terrific, especially during the 81 WS. He was also a pretty good hitter for a pitcher. He made baseball exciting again.

RIP. God bless. Prayers to his family and friends.
oh man, my dad hated George Frazier for that series  
Greg from LI : 10/23/2024 10:13 am : link
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These are his first 8 major league starts.  
Mad Mike : 10/23/2024 10:21 am : link
Talk about making an entrance.
eight straight complete games and five shutouts?  
Greg from LI : 10/23/2024 10:32 am : link
Wow
The league kind of, sort of, figured him out, eventually,  
81_Great_Dane : 10/23/2024 10:47 am : link
but he was electrifying that year. And he was always tough to face, even after hitters found a way to attack him.

In today's baseball, no pitcher would be allowed to throw 8 complete games in his first 8 starts. So, while the game could change again, it's pretty safe to say we'll never see anything like that again.
hell, no one's had eight CGs in a *season*  
Greg from LI : 10/23/2024 10:56 am : link
since 2011
RE: These are his first 8 major league starts.  
KDavies : 10/23/2024 11:08 am : link
In comment 16658276 Mad Mike said:
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Talk about making an entrance.


That is incredible, even for that era
As Great Dane said, his career didn't have a ton of staying power,  
Mad Mike : 10/23/2024 11:18 am : link
but that start is ridiculous. ROY, CYA, and 5th in MVP voting right out of the gate. And as others have said, put on quite a show while doing it.
He was generally good to very good through 1987  
Greg from LI : 10/23/2024 11:30 am : link
Mostly bad after that. He was 26 in 1987 and had thrown almost 1800 MLB innings at that point, and screwballs are usually considered to be pretty tough on the arm. Not surprising that the back end of his career was rough considering that heavy workload.
When he came on the scene in 1981 as an official 20 year old  
shyster : 10/23/2024 11:39 am : link
there was talk that he might have been older than that.

Mentioned in his wiki.
Great pitcher & could hit too  
JerseyCityJoe : 10/23/2024 11:40 am : link
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RE: waxls at Boy Scout camp  
Stu11 : 10/23/2024 11:50 am : link
In comment 16658163 Giantsfan79 said:
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When he and Dave Stewart had their no hitters

That no-no supplied one of 100 or so iconic Vin Scully calls:
"If you have a sombrero throw it in the sky!"
RE: RE: waxls at Boy Scout camp  
Giantsfan79 : 10/23/2024 12:55 pm : link
In comment 16658411 Stu11 said:
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In comment 16658163 Giantsfan79 said:


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When he and Dave Stewart had their no hitters


That no-no supplied one of 100 or so iconic Vin Scully calls:
"If you have a sombrero throw it in the sky!"


one of the adults had a hand held radio - remember those - and I will remember sitting around the camp fire listening to the radio give updates on both games in upstate NY.
Even as a Mets fan, Fernando was so fun  
Section331 : 10/23/2024 3:13 pm : link
to watch. He was (allegedly) 21 when he came up, but he pitched like a wise old veteran. Mixed pitches, changed speeds, pitched up and down and in and out. Just a pleasure to watch. He had a hell of a pick-off move and was a great fielder too.

As a 63-year old, yeah, 63 is too damn young. RIP Fernando, thanks for the memories.
RE: Even as a Mets fan, Fernando was so fun  
Section331 : 10/23/2024 3:14 pm : link
In comment 16658593 Section331 said:
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to watch. He was (allegedly) 21 when he came up, but he pitched like a wise old veteran. Mixed pitches, changed speeds, pitched up and down and in and out. Just a pleasure to watch. He had a hell of a pick-off move and was a great fielder too.

As a 63-year old, yeah, 63 is too damn young. RIP Fernando, thanks for the memories.


Also won Silver Slugger as a rookie (I forgot they even gave those out for pitchers!), the guy could do it all.
Remember being a kid at LL practice..  
BillKo : 10/23/2024 3:33 pm : link
..and we were all excited about watching the Phillies and Dodgers that night at 10:35 from Dodger Stadium.

Phillies pinned him with his first loss.

RIP, Fernando
RE: The league kind of, sort of, figured him out, eventually,  
BillKo : 10/23/2024 3:49 pm : link
In comment 16658309 81_Great_Dane said:
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but he was electrifying that year. And he was always tough to face, even after hitters found a way to attack him.

In today's baseball, no pitcher would be allowed to throw 8 complete games in his first 8 starts. So, while the game could change again, it's pretty safe to say we'll never see anything like that again.


IIRC, he started to lose his fastball which was underrated, so batters began having an "easier" time w/ him. But he was still tough as you said.
He was exciting  
Matt M. : 10/23/2024 4:31 pm : link
but I hated him for beating the Yankees and stealing our Rookie of the Year pitcher's thunder.
RE: These are his first 8 major league starts.  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/23/2024 7:45 pm : link
In comment 16658276 Mad Mike said:
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Talk about making an entrance.


I knew he was amazing to start it off but to read it like this is wild. RIP
RE: RE: These are his first 8 major league starts.  
Matt M. : 10/23/2024 9:02 pm : link
In comment 16658831 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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Talk about making an entrance.




I knew he was amazing to start it off but to read it like this is wild. RIP
Same here.
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