Hiya folks,
Season’s over 😞. Let’s concentrate our discussion here for approximately the next 9 to 12 days or so until the World Series is over. Looks like monthly discussion threads will be the best way to go after this thread. I’ll start the next one a day or two after the World Series ends and once November starts. After that, I’ll just start one on the first of each month through approximately the end of March.
This loss in Game 6 against the Dodgers still rubs me raw personally, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see people wanna still talk about that, as well as the NLCS itself, although that sentiment seems to be waning now that a few days have passed since then. When looked upon as whole, the playoffs were fun and successful. Certain things were red flags and others were bright spots. Feel free to post any observations you’ve got, look forward to the future, or simply vent about whatever ails you in Metsland (not much it seems).
We can chit-chat about the World Series too here from our perspective when it starts in two days in Chavez Ravine. Schadenfreude is the word to keep in mind when it comes to that I believe since it’s the Dodgers and Yankees, lol. Let's keep everything on this thread for the sake of organization please, unless something big happens of course. We’ll do our best to try and organize our discussion threads this off-season in an informative way now that the Mets’ season is over. Everyone's input is welcome. Discuss…
With a leader like Lindor and Nimmo the Mets are set
Alvarez. Vientios. Mauricio. Baty. Williams. Gilbert. Acuna. Future is bright
Go out and get a real ACE
And continue to build the bullpen
Ohtani was entering his age 30, so he was 4 years older.
simply add 4 more years to that contract and it's 14 years $644m before any manipulations or creative accounting. which unlike ohtani, he/boras almost certainly don't want.
Ohtani obviously also pitches, but off a second TJS i think that only drove a smaller portion of his expected value relative to his offensive value the next 10 years.
Soto is the better hitter and a younger player with more prime years, so i think breaking the record for AAV and pushing towards $50m per year is possible. If the mets can do anything to make the NYY more uncomfortable, thats what they can do. increase the CBT AAV which could also push the NYY farther into luxury tax with Cole/Stanton/Judge already under contract at big $.
How many years and how much he gets guaranteed in total will be up to the market. i personally dont see how the yankees draw a line at year 11 or 12 or 13 given how invested in him they are. but never say never. cohen/stearns should and will certainly push them as uncomfortable as possible.
through 2027 that's $158.5 lux tax without Soto, $208.5m with him at $50m for just 7 players
through 2029 that's $125m lux tax without Soto, $175m with him at $50m for just 5 players
remember they have tried to avoid repeater taxes and only this year for the first time gone into the cohen tax. if they are starting at 208.5m over 7 players for the next 3 seasons that is going to ensure a pretty substantial tax bill with repeater taxes and cohen tax level.
not saying they can't do that, but just like they bowed out with yamamoto, cohen can push the price to somewhere uncomfortable. i think stearns may bow out on cohens price before the yankees this time because soto is so important to them.
I don’t understand what you’re saying here. Stearns works for Cohen - how does Cohen’s price make him bow out?
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i think stearns may bow out on cohens price before the yankees this time because soto is so important to them.
I don’t understand what you’re saying here. Stearns works for Cohen - how does Cohen’s price make him bow out?
i think last offseason cohen would have spent whatever stearns wanted on whomever (as he was willing with yamamoto) but stearns chose to not give out any deals longer than 1 year. i think he has more discipline spending the money than cohen's willingness to spend.
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The thread after this one would start a day or two after the end of the World Series or the start of November, whichever comes second. We can have that run until the end of November and have what's ultimately almost a month long thread.
After that, we can just start a monthly Mets offseason discussion thread exactly on the 1st of each month, beginning in December, for each month after that through March. Each thread would be a month long, but we can also start special separate threads for any big signings/big news if we like or if the occasion calls for it (i.e., a Juan Soto signing!).
The point is to just keep things as organized as possible. This way we can see What Dan and Eric post, as well as any other info that comes along as the off-season progresses until Opening Day on March 27th.
In summary:
2) "Mets offseason discussion thread for November" until the last day of November.
3) "Mets offseason discussion thread for December" starting on the first of that month until the end of that month.
4) "Mets offseason discussion thread for January" starting on the first of that month until the end of that month.
5) "Mets offseason discussion thread for February" starting on the first of that month until the end of that month. Spring training will begin then with the first game taking place on February 22nd. I won't do Spring training game threads. We can talk about the games there though if people would like to.
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6) "Mets offseason discussion thread for March" starting on the first of that month until the end of that month. The regular season will kick off on March 27th in Houston. We can use that thread to talk about offseason, spring training, add Minor League stuff.
What do you guys think? As stated above, we can always do a special thread for any big news (i.e., Pete Alonso and/or Sean Manaea re-signing with the Mets, Corbin Burnes signing with the Mets, Tanner Scott signing with the Mets, etc.).
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Cuban left-hander Naikel Cruz (25) has drawn interest from six MLB teams, per sources.
Cruz has a 94-95 mph fastball and elite curve with top spin rate. He was a member of Cuba U-23 and made the WBC roster.
He is expected to sign as a professional (25 years and 6 seasons).
@mariamb18
Mets are holding a Fan Fest on January 25th. It’s announced in an email from Steve and Alex Cohen.
With the offseason officially underway for the Mets after an incredible 2024 campaign, the team looks forward to big changes coming and we talk about everything you need to know from David Stearns’ press conference. We talk about all the internal options the Mets currently have between the minor leagues, guys coming back from injuries and reminders of key players still under contract. Francisco Lindor performing well over contract value, Mark Vientos emerging as a star, Francisco Alvarez coming into form and then pieces in the minor league’s like Brandon Sproat, Blade Tidwell, Ryan Clifford and more.
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